35 year old kissless, hand hold-less virgin man who has never heard of a girl/woman liking him in any way.

[Forgottendanfan]

Would you say this is unusual?

if so, then why? Yes, I am drunk.

 

[okidoke]

Are you sure you want to discuss this while drunk lol

 

[user 139760]

No, I wouldn't out of hand. The why is the really important part.
I've known a 55 year old virgin. After a 20 minute conversation with him over a drink, I knew exactly why, too.
Are you really sure this is a question you really, REALLY want answers to?

 

[ardour]

Just 6% of men in the UK lost their virginity after 25 https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society.../01/what-age-did-britons-lose-their-virginity

I can't find the actual stats on later life, but from memory the older adult virginity rate is 1% or so, so yeah, still very unusual.

 

[Forgottendanfan]

I don't see why not. I'm open to all points of view.

 

[Forgottendanfan]

Just 6% of men in the UK lost their virginity after 25 https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society.../01/what-age-did-britons-lose-their-virginity

I can't find the actual stats on later life, but from memory the older adult virginity rate is 1% or so, so yeah, still very unusual.

Why do you think this is?

 

[Forgottendanfan]

I've never in my life seen anyone being asked out or approached in any romantic way. And I've spent a lot of time in pubs.

 

[ardour]

Why do you think this is?

Why is it increasing? Absence of 'third spaces' impacts men more; women usually have better social networks though which they can meet a partner. Women refusing to approach. Adolescence extending into mid 20s. More people living at home with less to offer. Video games, ****.

 

[Skyless]

I've never in my life seen anyone being asked out or approached in any romantic way. And I've spent a lot of time in pubs.

In real life, it just looks like a regular pleasant conversation most of the time about whatever, that leads to some phone info/social media swapping, that then leads on from there.

It’s not too showy or all that outwardly noticeable in RL, unless you were really paying attention to the whole thing from start to finish. It’s rarely a spectacle.

 

[michael2]

Actually sounds increasingly common

 

[user 139760]

I don't see why not. I'm open to all points of view.

It's not just a question of point of view. Lots here ask that question. There's two lines of thinking. There's something wrong with everyone else (eg blaming women) or there's something wrong with me. Lots of people just want to be comforted in which of the two they believe. I happen to think it's neither and both. It depends on who you are and what you do as well as who you're going after and how you do it.
So lots more details would be required in order to get an accurate representation.

 

[Unsigned]

I've never in my life seen anyone being asked out or approached in any romantic way. And I've spent a lot of time in pubs.

I see it all the time.
I see females heap attention on males.
I work with a guy who is 6'5", athletic, and has what most people would consider a handsome face. I've seen girls in bars gravitate towards him. In the past I worked with another guy that was a football fullback in college. Same thing with him. Girls in bars would flock to him. The second guy wasn't so tall, about 5'10", but very muscular and a handsome face. And I've seen the same scenario countless times with strangers who fit that bill. Handsome face and either athletic or muscular build. Outgoing personalities? Yes. But cwhen you are handsome and strong and grow up from a young boy being loved, respected and admired, of course you will be outgoing.

Now, do I see regular or short or fat or downright ugly guys paired off with women as well? Of course. But I never see women approaching them, and I assume they had to work their backsides off just to get the almost always unattractive women they are paired off with.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

Its very common… I’d like the stats on how many of those men have poor hygiene, watch cartoons, earn low wages and are overweight. It would be interesting to see

 

[Cherubino]

It's definitely a minority to which I once belonged and from which I was saved SOLELY by the advent of the internet ... in my case it's a mental health disability called avoidant personality disorder and being born and (not) raised by an autistic mother, in a dysfunctional family and a totalitarian society ... honestly and respectfully I can't find an excuse for you guys from the Western world because you benefit the newest and most advanced methods of professional help, the great bulk of the internet sites to meet women is at you and you always had access to paid ***

 

[okidoke]

……..the great bulk of the internet sites to meet women is at you and you always had access to paid ***

There is way too much scamming and fake profiles on such sites, especially apps, and as for paid ***, here at least, the escorts who are of any decent standard charge exorbitant prices. You have to be making good coin to afford a decent escort.

 

[Cherubino]

There is way too much scamming and fake profiles on such sites, especially apps, and as for paid ***, here at least, the escorts who are of any decent standard charge exorbitant prices. You have to be making good coin to afford a decent escort.

it totally worth to save money for a decent service once in a while which would otherwise spend if you had a family ... according to my knowledge there is only one dating site on the internet for mental health people ... now it's no longer available for non-English speaking countries but when I was there I managed to find a few women interested in me even just as pen-pal and once I was really close to find a partner from US but unfortunately she didn't pass the photo test ... yes I had really nasty scam attempts but why must throw all the (partly) spoiled food to the garbage when you're starving

 

[okidoke]

it totally worth to save money for a decent service once in a while which would otherwise spend if you had a family

I’m not sure I understand. I have a family, but I don’t get ***. And I have some standards unlike some blokes who seem to **** anything that spreads their legs for them.

 

[Forgottendanfan]

Its very common… I’d like the stats on how many of those men have poor hygiene, watch cartoons, earn low wages and are overweight. It would be interesting to see

I'm mildly overweight and on sickness benefit due to mental health problems. My hygiene is good, I don't watch cartoons but I barely ever leave my house these days. I'm somewhat reclusive and I've developed mild agoraphobia and social phobia.

 

[Forgottendanfan]

It's definitely a minority to which I once belonged and from which I was saved SOLELY by the advent of the internet ... in my case it's a mental health disability called avoidant personality disorder and being born and (not) raised by an autistic mother, in a dysfunctional family and a totalitarian society ... honestly and respectfully I can't find an excuse for you guys from the Western world because you benefit the newest and most advanced methods of professional help, the great bulk of the internet sites to meet women is at you and you always had access to paid ***

Like I've mentioned before, I'd much rather be a life-long virgin than pay for intimacy.

 

[Cherubino]

Like I've mentioned before, I'd much rather be a life-long virgin than pay for intimacy.

then maybe worth paying for professional help on this issue