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Jesse

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I just think that things like *** or an attempted relationship ruins friendships and I don't want *** or a relationship with someone without friendship so....

Guess I'm doomed to be only friends with everybody.
 
I don't think I really believe it. It's just how I feel right now likely due to my recently failed relationship.
 
You can have a relationship with anyone or anything.
Such as having a relationship with your parents, co workers, siblings, your pet or a HP.

An intimate relationship dosn't really nessary means *** or involve ***.
To be intimate with someone. Means you're opening your heart and your soul to a person.
You can talk to a person heart to heart about anything ....as in baring your naked soul
with a person...share all your thoughts , feelings, hopes, dreams, secrets.
So...if you can get naked with your thoughts and feelings....you can get naked with your partner
physically and also mature sexaully as a couple...Trust.

Having a sexual relationship dosn't neccesary means that you can get intimate with someone
of being able to talk and share your most deep inner feelings or thoughts.
You can be good in bed with someone and not be able to communicate worth a **** about anything else.

Yes an ideal intimate relationship is to be able to share and be open with your partner
mentally, emotionally and sexaully. Most couple will strive for that after the honey moon
stage is over.

A relationship will always have it's ups and downs...in other words never perfect to what
your idea of what perfection is. This is were intimatecy comes in...
As I said...you can share and open yourself to your partner openly.
in other words...if you get into an argument, disagreement or a fight with your partner
there's not going to be fears of your partner not loving you, accepting you or your partner running out
on you. You both communicate , work out your problems and fine a common ground or salution.
The relationships continues....
Then have make up *** :p

If you're really, really intimate..you'll have break up *** too..lmao

Sometimes you'll get into a disagreement with your freinds too. So...????lol
 
Shouldn't you be friends with who you're dating anyway? o_O I don't see the problem. Do people hate who they're with friend-wise?
 
No I should be friends of course. I'm saying it seems like as soon as you're more than that the friendship seems to go away.
 
It dosn't go away. You push her away maybe.
Too much expetations maybe.
Maybe you're trying too hard.

Maybe you havn't met a person for you yet or been exposed to more poeple or women.

I'm not sure what kind of ideas you have of what a relationship is.
I know this much...whatever the hell it is I have in my mind...it's not it.
It might be close sometimes...but most of the time life is not exactly how i imagined it.

I also learned through the years...I'm actaully cutting myself short or cutting off people or life in general
by have all the crazy ideas in my head....Of course I think my ideas or values are most highest.
Thinking and living like that...I was never in the moment and just enjoying life for the moment.

I actaully got married at 19...i kind of ****** up my marriage or that relationship with my ideas...lmao
The woman loved me, evidently..She married me and slept in the same bed with me.
I simply created more tensions, stress, or problems in our relationship because of my fucken ideas.
The woman kept telling me "you'll see the light someday"...but that **** went over my head..lmao
I lived in constant fears of losing her..Err wtf, the woman came home and have *** with me everynight
and i still didn't get it.

I actaully didn't understand the conception of living in the moment and not in my fucken head
after i ****** that **** up..lmao
Right around the age of 24-25 I was able to form a healthy relationship with a woman.
My previous ideas of love or relationship had to go out the fucken window.

I'm a recoverying perfectionist too...
The day my counselor told me I was a perfectionist...it totally blew my fucken mind..
How in the **** can I be a perfectionist if my life was ****** up ? lmao

I had to read up on that...lol
Bascailly it was the many freaken perfect ideas in my fucken head that ****** me up and how I tried to lived
to those ideas. People and I made mistakes or failed to lived up to what my perfect ideas (delusions) was.
It irratated the hell out of me or I completely stopped doing things becuase I made mistakes.
I deemed anytype of failure as a cathrophy or the end of the world, seeing everything as black or white.

I kid you not..my gf that I first starting having a healthy relationship with, would mess things up on purpose
She simply didn't put things back into place where I had orginized nice and neat..
I'd go ape **** or started foaming at the mouth..lmao
It used to errk the **** out of me when she would miss place CD or DVD that I had stacked in alphabit order
and the letters facing a certain way...lmao
She'll drive our car into mud on purpose..right after i spent hours washing, cleaning and waxing it.lol
These little behaviors spelt over into our relationship, issue, or communiations.
In other words...I was too strictive in my ways of thinking and living...I didn't allow she and I to live and breathe freely.
I had to learn how to LET GO and not be in total CONTROL all the time. Yes, control issues.

I had the same problems at work with my secutaries....The girls started hating me or found me difficult to work with.
I'd ask the my secutaries to file my work in certain order or file my paper work in a certain fashion..but they wouldn't.lmao
My boss had to call me into his office and told me to chilled the **** out....just becuase not all the paper with letters
weren't facing in the same direction wasn't the end of the world...lmao
I went through 3 secutaries in 1 year...not good.

There's nothing wrong with being orginized or structured. At the sametime the way i was going about it was counter productive.
I had to changed my all or nothing mentally becuase I was pushing people away from me. I needed to learn and practice
BALANCE in my life.
 
Why? It shouldn't. The friendship should become closer and tighter if anything.
 
VanillaCreme said:
Why? It shouldn't. The friendship should become closer and tighter if anything.

I dunno, wish it didn't happen how it did.
 

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