Poetry Is Not That Simple

[TheLonelySkeptic]

It's really not.

 

[Zak]

:3

 

[PieBeNice]

I disagree.

 

[TheLonelySkeptic]

I disagree.

Then I'm positive you're not educated in the matter. :3

 

[bookbinder]

Should I howl my response, or beat it?
But what's a topic if you don't treat it
With some playful banter?

Poetry is simple, poetry is fun;
Poetry can be written by every-*******-one!

Poetry can be bold, poetry can be brass,
Poetry can be cute, poetry can be crass!

But here's the question:
Why take poetry from the verse-loving masses
Just because they can't distinguish Allen from their asses?

 

[PieBeNice]

I disagree.

Then I'm positive you're not educated in the matter. :3

They had us look at poetry loads at school and I didn't like does that count as education pls.

 

[TheLonelySkeptic]

Should I howl my response, or beat it?
But what's a topic if you don't treat it
With some playful banter?

Poetry is simple, poetry is fun;
Poetry can be written by every-*******-one!

Poetry can be bold, poetry can be brass,
Poetry can be cute, poetry can be crass!

But here's the question:
Why take poetry from the verse-loving masses
Just because they can't distinguish Allen from their asses?

To write in rhyme does not a poet make. =P
There is no line between poetry and prose. They're on separate planes entirely.

 

[luciddisconnect]

There are "real poets" and then everyone else?

So what. A person has the right to express themselves regardless of whether they can measure up to T.S. Eliot or not. If someone enjoys writing a little ditty then who am I to knock on it.

I'm not going to sing their praises and shower them with "you're so talenteds" either. It's one of the hardest things on earth to learn how to make a truly moving work of art.

 

[TheLonelySkeptic]

There are "real poets" and then everyone else?

So what. A person has the right to express themselves regardless of whether they can measure up to T.S. Eliot or not. If someone enjoys writing a little ditty then who am I to knock on it.

I'm not going to sing their praises and shower them with "you're so talenteds" either. It's one of the hardest things on earth to learn how to make a truly moving work of art.

I'm not discouraging little ditties.

Expression is wonderful, but if you truly have a passion for an art form, you should learn about it. Poetry is more than just "writing with style." People need to learn the rules before they can break them.

 

[bookbinder]

Should I howl my response, or beat it?
But what's a topic if you don't treat it
With some playful banter?

Poetry is simple, poetry is fun;
Poetry can be written by every-*******-one!

Poetry can be bold, poetry can be brass,
Poetry can be cute, poetry can be crass!

But here's the question:
Why take poetry from the verse-loving masses
Just because they can't distinguish Allen from their asses?

To write in rhyme does not a poet make. =P
There is no line between poetry and prose. They're on separate planes entirely.

Who made you master and crowned you king?
If poet you call yourself, enter the ring.
I know this might not fit your concept of high-brow writ
But when you criticize, who gives a honeysuckle?

 

[TheLonelySkeptic]

Should I howl my response, or beat it?
But what's a topic if you don't treat it
With some playful banter?

Poetry is simple, poetry is fun;
Poetry can be written by every-*******-one!

Poetry can be bold, poetry can be brass,
Poetry can be cute, poetry can be crass!

But here's the question:
Why take poetry from the verse-loving masses
Just because they can't distinguish Allen from their asses?

To write in rhyme does not a poet make. =P
There is no line between poetry and prose. They're on separate planes entirely.

Who made you master and crowned you king?
If poet you call yourself, enter the ring.
I know this might not fit your concept of high-brow writ
But when you criticize, who gives a honeysuckle?

You pick out the sticks of your rhyming-words heedful,
And bind them up tight, just as close as is needful;
Yet rhyming alone's to tie bows around bricks --
You're just treating your words as mere conjurer's tricks.
But do not think my words an affront to your quality!
Consider them duly.

- Your friend in frivolity.

I was and am not trying to come off as "holier than thou." My point was that there is a line between the art of poetry, and that of your average "poet." There are techniques to be learned if you are honest and true to your craft, but that doesn't go to say that you can't overlook them (my favorite poet was and is e.e. cummings, and God knows he wasn't a stickler for the rules). But I remain of the opinion that one must first learn the rules before one can break them. Correctly, anyway. =P

However I do sincerely apologize if I came off pretentious in any way. That's not in my character.

 

[bookbinder]

There you go friend- finally, you've joined the game!
Took a while, but here you are
I was hoping we'd see you prove your name-
Matching verse for verse and bar for bar.

I agree, it takes art to write with style
All I wanted was to see you try your hand
Think of it as a suit before trial
Present your poet's proof while on the stand.

My overall purpose, my intent here
Is to suggest that you take a post
As ALL's teaching poetical peer
If you can help folks the most.

If you know the rules, stop by to teach, to pitch
Because if you're as versed as you claim, withholding them makes you a *****.

 

[Satchel421]

I just thought I'd add my thoughts about this. I think that LonelySkeptic is 100% right. I write, "Poetry," but that doesn't make it, "Poetry." It's hard to explain, but I feel the same way about guitar. There is a different between playing notes on a guitar, and playing guitar. The problem is that it is very hard for many of us to understand the full concept, even if explained to us a million times. There is only one kind of true poetry, but very few of us will ever live to understand it, so we call our little doodles and such poetry to make us feel creative and poetic.

In conclusion, poetry is NOT that simple, but trying to figure out why takes away the fun.

 

[luciddisconnect]

You pick out the sticks of your rhyming-words heedful,
And bind them up tight, just as close as is needful;
Yet rhyming alone's to tie bows around bricks --
You're just treating your words as mere conjurer's tricks.
But do not think my words an affront to your quality!
Consider them duly.

- Your friend in frivolity.

If I could twist words together as fluently as you can I probably would be trying to write some poems of the high art variety.

So let's see something that you've written seriously.
Seriously!

 

[Brian]

Skwisgar Swigelf taller than a tree
Toki Wartooth not a bumble bee
William Murderface, Murderface, Murderf...


Oops. Ahem. Moving along.

 

[TheLonelySkeptic]

You pick out the sticks of your rhyming-words heedful,
And bind them up tight, just as close as is needful;
Yet rhyming alone's to tie bows around bricks --
You're just treating your words as mere conjurer's tricks.
But do not think my words an affront to your quality!
Consider them duly.

- Your friend in frivolity.

If I could twist words together as fluently as you can I probably would be trying to write some poems of the high art variety.

So let's see something that you've written seriously.
Seriously!

Well, most of the stuff I've written wouldn't be considered "high art." Most of it is anapestic and flows a bit too frantically to be considered deep. I've been unable to write anything meaningful since a traumatic series of events a while back.

 

[Jesse]

I've written quite a bit of... stuff? Actually I call what I've written poetry, but I don't think it compares to the pro's. I'm not really interested in learning about the ins and outs of it either. I feel emotional and I write. What I write expresses how I feel. Label it what you want, but when I write it and it helps me express my feelings or if someone can relate to it or they enjoy it then I'm happy with it.

That being said I never do really think that what I write is very good in a poetic sense, but isn't poetry free expression? I've had a few people tell me that if I'd make a few changes to some of mine they'd be really good. Well I expressed it how I felt it should have been. I almost never edit my poems and most of them are written in a 5 minute or less setting.