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This isn't a social problem, just a question.

For women only. If a guy you'd never met before, walked up to you in the street or say the bus station, and (presume it's nicely/pleasantly) asked you if you fancied joining him for a coffee, what would your reaction be. Sounds a bit odd now I'm saying it actually but will still post thread anyway, see what reaction I get. Would you find it creepy? Would it depend on how he said it, or how he came across? Or whether you found him attractive or not? If it was at the bus station for instance, would making some small talk first be better? I.e, "These busses take forever don't they?". Don't know, just clutching at straws I guess. I'm lonely and a good looking nice guy. Just lack confidence and a bit shy I guess. Thanks!
 
Stone cold walk up to me in the street? No. I don't care if he's movie star gorgeous, psychopaths look like everyone else. You have to give the girl some way to get a little feel for your personality.

Now say we've struck up a conversation while waiting for the bus and we're hitting it off? Absolutely, go for it! The worst thing she says is no and if she says no, you say oh, that's too bad and don't take it personally. Don't make a big deal out of it and if she doesn't walk away, feel free to continue the conversation's previous topic. First of all, just talking with a girl when you're a shy guy is good practice. Secondly, you'd be amazed at how much good humor and persistence can pay off. Who knows, maybe tomorrow or next week you'll run into the same girl and you'll say hi and THIS time she asks YOU out to coffee.
 
^Agreed. Better to have a bit of a chat first, if the other person wants to. Also agreed - practising just chatting is a great thing to do, with anyone, any age, especially if you are a shy type. Doesn't have to be a girl that you fancy, an older woman than you might be happy just to chat and it will build your social skills and confidence. Sport-Flirting a bit can be good fun and it doesn't really lead anywhere. It just gives both parties a bit of a smile and a spring in their step. Watch young male waiters with older women. Often they do it brilliantly.

Not a good idea to persist if you are getting no-where though, as it could come across as creepy or stalker-ish. Good luck. Let us know how you get on.
 
SimonT said:
This isn't a social problem, just a question.

For women only. If a guy you'd never met before, walked up to you in the street or say the bus station, and (presume it's nicely/pleasantly) asked you if you fancied joining him for a coffee, what would your reaction be. Sounds a bit odd now I'm saying it actually but will still post thread anyway, see what reaction I get. Would you find it creepy? Would it depend on how he said it, or how he came across? Or whether you found him attractive or not? If it was at the bus station for instance, would making some small talk first be better? I.e, "These busses take forever don't they?". Don't know, just clutching at straws I guess. I'm lonely and a good looking nice guy. Just lack confidence and a bit shy I guess. Thanks!

Surely a pub / bar would be better ?
Then it would be perfectly normal to start chatting to a woman.
 
You would have to make some small talk first. And it would completely depend on the location - a bus station I would find creepy...a library or bookstore, much less so, especially if you initiated conversation and we talked for a bit before you popped the coffee question. And I would need to feel safe, so no leading me down some dark alley on the way to get a drink, haha! :)

But I definitely don't recommend just randomly going up to some strange woman and asking if she'd like to join you.
 
A pub/bar would be better but I don't drink and I always feel dead out of place. Think I'm gonna try the non verbal hello first. What you do is, make eye contact, for 4 seconds (long enough to be noticeable, yet not too long as to be too long), then you look away for 4 seconds, then look back, if she's still looking, you smile and do a eyebrow flash (a very quick raise of the eyebrows) and if she smiles back, you know she's interested, then I will strike up some conversation. Then I shall ask the girl in question out for a coffee.
 
SimonT said:
A pub/bar would be better but I don't drink and I always feel dead out of place. Think I'm gonna try the non verbal hello first. What you do is, make eye contact, for 4 seconds (long enough to be noticeable, yet not too long as to be too long), then you look away for 4 seconds, then look back, if she's still looking, you smile and do a eyebrow flash (a very quick raise of the eyebrows) and if she smiles back, you know she's interested, then I will strike up some conversation. Then I shall ask the girl in question out for a coffee.

I really think this is a good approach.. honestly.
 
Women are everywhere, they outnumber men. And an employed, attractive man is a catch, I don't care what part of the world you're in. The trick is, DON'T SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT!

Don't worry about trying to meet chicks in a bar, that's a cliche and doesn't work 99% of the time. Seriously, who do you know who is in a relationship that met their s/o in a bar? Most girls go out with a s/o to a bar, or they go out with girlfriends with no interest in meeting men.

How do people meet, you ask? When I got out of school I met every guy I dated at work, including my first husband. I met my second husband through a family member. In fact, most people I know who have a relationship actually were "hooked up" by a friend or family member who said "HEY, I know someone you should meet, I think you'd really hit it off". So NETWORK, first. You have any relatives that have unattached female friends or in-laws? Get the word out that you'd like to meet a nice girl. Girls in their 20s are itching to be in a relationship, trust me. Added bonus, the family member/friend can coordinate the meeting by throwing a dinner or party or something so you can meet the girl in a controlled environment.

Next, you want to connect with women when they don't have something else on their plate. Meet her on the street, no, she could be going somewhere, has a dental appointment, needs to get to work, you're just an annoyance, you're done. Make eye contact and strike up on a conversation on the bus, good, she's just sitting there. Additionally good, book stores that have coffee shops, the gym (where my son met his current s/o, they've been together over a year now), laundry mats (fabulous, you've got a captive audience who is probably bored for a minimum of one to two hours. Go to the thrift store, buy extra clothes if you need to so you can do laundry twice a week in different laundry centers, heck, some laundry mats actually have singles nights here in America!) Also good, take adult classes at night. Again, sometimes they hold classes specifically for people to meet other people. If nothing else, you get to learn a skill and again, you're interacting.

Once you get yourself past over-analization of how to actually start to speak to women (really, think people, women are not a different species) and allowing a conversation to move forward -- which, BTW, you do by being an attentive listener, and you let her direct the conversation, generally -- she'll give you the openings to move things along herself. You just have to come off as reasonably intelligent and don't send off creep vibes. Staring, bizarre eye contact, unnatural smiling, stiff or uncomfortable body posture, all those things are going to set off a female's subconscious "creep radar".

I'm telling you, for the vast majority of women (I'm excluding gold diggers and the completely superficial) the most attractive thing on the planet to is a confident guy. A man who looks comfortable in his skin and environment, who has an easy manner. You don't have to feel it, you do have to radiate it. Look at old movies if you have to (too many neurotic male leads in movies anymore). Think Clark Gable in Gone with the Wind. ANY actor playing 007 (particularly Sean Connery). Paul Newman. Robert Redford. Harrison Ford in Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Steve McQueen. Bradd Pitt has it, so does George Clooney. It's tough to put your finger on but you need to understand that (subconsciously) women are drawn to men who seem confident. There's biology behind the psychology. A confident, capable man has the potential of being being a good father/provider/mate. That confidence means he can handle whatever comes his way, broken plumbing, flat tire, stranger with a knife in the alley, putting out a kitchen fire, paying the bills on time, putting meat on the table, fending off attackers.

Why do you think women are drawn to macho bad boys? I'm not saying turn into a macho jerk but I am saying take the steps to build your own confidence and you'll have no problem finding women, they'll come to you. If that means working out, taking up martial arts, do it.
 
Well today let me tell you. I went the gym as I was at the reception desk, a really sexy girl was making eye contact through the window. She regularly kept checking me out, as did I with her. Anyway, I went to get changed. On entering the gym I went straight to the treadmill to do my 20minute warm up. I didn't make eye contact on entering the gym cause I didn't want to seem to eager or looking at her too much. Anyway, after the session on the treadmill, I saw her, and only about 3-4mins after she left. I too had to go the same way as her, as I had to nip the toilet. Anyway, she was just getting her stuff from the locker and I tried to make polite conversion as I walked past. I said, "Man, you can tell I haven't been the gym for a while, that treadmill's worn me out" to which she said nothing and looked horrified if I'm honest. I just don't know, I must just give off a bad vibe. Should I have introduced myself first? I mean, she was definitely checking me out and she seem to like what she saw initially. I feel as though I'm jyst cursed when it comes to women. Now it's started to ruin my day and eating at my thoughts lol!
 
At least you tried. It seems kind of rude to just ignore someone when they are talking to you. It could just be where I live though.
 
SimonT said:
A pub/bar would be better but I don't drink and I always feel dead out of place. Think I'm gonna try the non verbal hello first. What you do is, make eye contact, for 4 seconds (long enough to be noticeable, yet not too long as to be too long), then you look away for 4 seconds, then look back, if she's still looking, you smile and do a eyebrow flash (a very quick raise of the eyebrows) and if she smiles back, you know she's interested, then I will strike up some conversation. Then I shall ask the girl in question out for a coffee.

You can always drink non alcoholic drinks.
What you mentioned - I don't know about you but that would never happen to me ever ! Honestly a blind 'pick up' like that seems like fantasy. I would suggest joining some sort of club, walking, chess, films, book, something like that. Try to be talkative and meet some women in that way. And then asking for the coffee won't be so awkward or daunting.
 
You might want to try just chatting with people in general for practice. Having good conversations is a skill that can be learned with practice. And a natural extension of that is asking a lady out for a coffee. Try practicing chatting with male strangers or older women too, you'll feel more relaxed because there's none of the "will she like me" pressure.
And try not to get discouraged if someone doesn't respond! As I said on your other thread, this happens to everyone at some point, lonely or not.
I used to joke that I'm terrible at small talk but it turns out in my old age, I've had so much practice, I'm not so bad at it after all.

-Teresa
 
Triple Bogey said:
You can always drink non alcoholic drinks.
What you mentioned - I don't know about you but that would never happen to me ever ! Honestly a blind 'pick up' like that seems like fantasy. I would suggest joining some sort of club, walking, chess, films, book, something like that. Try to be talkative and meet some women in that way. And then asking for the coffee won't be so awkward or daunting.

There is no fantasy about this. Read "bender22"s thread, for example, he has actually managed to improve his confidence and get 5-6 phone numbers from random women this very same way. If he can do it, so can the OP, so can you.
 
SimonT said:
This isn't a social problem, just a question.

For women only. If a guy you'd never met before, walked up to you in the street or say the bus station, and (presume it's nicely/pleasantly) asked you if you fancied joining him for a coffee, what would your reaction be. Sounds a bit odd now I'm saying it actually but will still post thread anyway, see what reaction I get. Would you find it creepy? Would it depend on how he said it, or how he came across? Or whether you found him attractive or not? If it was at the bus station for instance, would making some small talk first be better? I.e, "These busses take forever don't they?". Don't know, just clutching at straws I guess. I'm lonely and a good looking nice guy. Just lack confidence and a bit shy I guess. Thanks!

Small talk/banter would be essential to breaking the ice. It shows your personality, albeit its your "representative" speaking, but at least its a form of communication...in public..to see if there's mutual chemistry.
 
Batman55 said:
Triple Bogey said:
You can always drink non alcoholic drinks.
What you mentioned - I don't know about you but that would never happen to me ever ! Honestly a blind 'pick up' like that seems like fantasy. I would suggest joining some sort of club, walking, chess, films, book, something like that. Try to be talkative and meet some women in that way. And then asking for the coffee won't be so awkward or daunting.

There is no fantasy about this. Read "bender22"s thread, for example, he has actually managed to improve his confidence and get 5-6 phone numbers from random women this very same way. If he can do it, so can the OP, so can you.

I have no chance
 

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