Why do Christians condemn LGBTQ as Evil?

[non_entity]

Well, sin is evil because it is a spiritual sickness that corrupts us from our true nature. God clearly lists homosexual conduct as a sin, just like lying, stealing, adultery, etc. Just because it is socially acceptable and promoted under the ideal of "love is love", doesn't change this.

While most evangelicals are distasteful in their approach, warning people of hell isn't quite the same as condemning, although many people do in fact like to condemn others for things that God has already forgiven them for, which I find incredibly uncharitable.

And yes, Jesus did tell us to love, but He also heavily instructed his followers in repentance.

Hell was not created for people. It was created for satan and the demons. People that follow satan, and who voluntarily reject God, are cast into hell of their own free will. I don't know if hell necessarily consists of "torture", like it's some nightmarish torture chamber. After all, the demons will be in there too, being punished, presumably. Hell is more like a condition, of regret, sadness, agony, and darkness.

And yet people despise being warned about it. They mock it and accuse people of being unloving. Yet they in the same vein hate God, all the while resenting Him for allowing them to choose their own fate.

 

[Macsimum Myers]

Yes

 

[TheRealCallie]

But nowadays the death-penalty is not practiced, although the gay condemnation remains.

We also don't stone sluts anymore and we eat pork.....not to mention the one about judging.

People pick and choose what serves their purpose from the bible. They always have.

 

[Minus]

This thread was asking why a certain perspective on the LGBTQ community was formed.

There seems to be repeated attempts to try to push the thread into a debate about the validity of religion. That is not the topic and would be considered a religious debate.

 

[theablekingathelstan]

Most Christian denominations look down on LGBT people.
Catholic dogma is against it, and the bigger Protestant bodiues like Anglicans, Methodists, etc. are against it.
Given the relevant Bible phrases, I doubt this will change any time soon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominational_positions_on_homosexuality

 

[user 115627]

As pointed out by some atheists before, it's peculiar how homosexuality came to be viewed as a sin and consequently the mere idea of gay marriage as an abomination. Prior to the legalization of gay marriage in some countries, many religious people were against it - on the basis of their religious beliefs, handed down from God himself one would think. And yet, if you can believe the surveys, many of those people also ended up changing their opinion on the matter (and a number of other issues) over the years and no one knows why. I guess God must have changed his mind too then.

 

[non_entity]

As pointed out by some atheists before, it's peculiar how homosexuality came to be viewed as a sin and consequently the mere idea of gay marriage as an abomination. Prior to the legalization of gay marriage in some countries, many religious people were against it - on the basis of their religious beliefs, handed down from God himself one would think. And yet, if you can believe the surveys, many of those people also ended up changing their opinion on the matter (and a number of other issues) over the years and no one knows why. I guess God must have changed his mind too then.

The majority of people are weak-willed and tend to go along with what society deems acceptable. Since most Christians are Christians in name only, and thus cave to the whims of the world, people changed their opinions or became indifferent as homosexuality became more prevalent and socially acceptable.

 

[August Campbell]

This thread was asking why a certain perspective on the LGBTQ community was formed.

There seems to be repeated attempts to try to push the thread into a debate about the validity of religion. That is not the topic and would be considered a religious debate.

Thank you, Admin, for putting the topic back on track. Just as you said, my intention was not so much religion but rather to take a sociological look at the discrimination. Even religion itself must have been influenced by the culture from which it originated. It is that cultural environment which I wanted to look at.

 

[theablekingathelstan]

Point well-taken with your 2 attachments. I agree 100%. When it's Fundamentalist-Christians, the Only problem I have is when they insist that their belief is the Only True one. That's the Only problem I have with them. If they were accepting and tolerant of Other religions, then Christianity is a very good religion because they do a lot of charity work. But they spoil it all when they insist that Buddhists go to Hell, lgbtq go to Hell, Hinduists go to Hell, etc.
There even used to be a support-group called Fundamentalists Anonymous, applying the same principles of Alcoholics Anonymous--people who used to be Fundies but came to their senses. Sometimes I watch the updated YouTube videos of The Atheist Experience, and notice that while many want to become Atheists but what makes them hesitate is their Christian fear of Hell. If not for the fear of an eternal Hell, they would become Atheists in an eyeblink. But that fear is so overwhelming that they hesitate. I have that fear too, so I would appreciate any suggestions that can put my mind at ease.

Most religions say that they are the path to be taken. That's not a fair criticism of Christianity.

 

[Sir Joseph]

Kudos to those here who have correctly identified some of the Biblical scriptures denouncing the LGBTQ movement. I think it's important for everyone to understand that a Christian's objection to this type of sexual immorality that's specifically defined in the Bible is not a mere closed minded, hateful, personal bias, but an obligatory respect for the Word of God in defining moral values.
While Christians are called to love everyone, we're also required to make moral value judgements in order to pursue righteousness in our own lives and to teach others about sin and our need for a Savior. That requires a balanced approach of recognizing and opposing sin while still loving the sinner - a difficult line to walk for sure.

I'd suggest that "tolerance" is the key, but that's not the same as "acceptance" which is what the LGBTQ community, media, government, schools, and politically correct culture now demands. Within my lifetime, we've gone from a Christian society that embraced Biblical moral values to a secular society that now condemns them - calling adherence to God's Word as hate speech and bigotry - which will get you fired in the U.S. and arrested in the U.K. and Canada.

Unfortunately, a majority of Americans, including supposed Christians, have succumbed to the public brainwashing and peer pressure on a multitude of moral value issues. Relativism now outweighs objective morality. If you're irreligious or believe that we're just evolved apes, then that's consistent, rational thinking. But for Christians, Catholics, and Muslims, there should be no question that the LGBTQ lifestyle is morally wrong by God's standards. And to add "pride" to the formula goes beyond a weak, sinful heart which we all have; it shows blatant defiance and disrespect for God.

To address August Campbell's first question more directly, I'd suggest that the opposition by Christians against the LGBTQ movement has not increased, but actually decreased significantly (as indicated by numerous religious research studies). To this point, the LGBTQ community and allies have been extremely successful at changing America's social/moral values. There aren't more faithful, Bible believing Christians speaking out against this moral decline; there's just a lot more attacks, media exposure, and public disgrace towards those that do.

Opposing beliefs and moral values are destined to keep us divided on this issue, but I'd maintain that tolerance is the best formula for living together peaceably. Most of us should want that.

 

[Fragilegirl]

In my Opinion the problem is that everyone is minding everyone else’s “sins”. Even if you personally believe it’s a sin it is your right to practice your faith your way. But to say that others should be denied their right to live as they believe because YOUR faith demands it would be as ridiculous as me ,a Catholic , saying that all of you should be forced by law to go to confession at least once a year and refrain from eating meat during lent. No matter what faith you are, you must live by my rules. That’s not a democracy that’s a theocracy and that is what the founding fathers of my country we’re trying to avoid. The original question why do they Condemn the LBGT community as evil is because that is what they/we are told in school from a very young age. Sadly they were also told that masturbation, adultery, divorce, and many other things are sins yet seem to be willing to overlook those sins . So many of those sins are seen as far more forgivable because many Christians have committed those sins themselves. Therefore they can’t possibly be as bad as homosexuals. Someone that they can look down on and feel superior to. If we would all simply try to be better people and tend to our own souls the way that Jesus intended I think it would put an end to the constant condemnation by Christians towards the LBGT community. Whatever you believe in Jesus never intended for us to set ourselves up as judges of our fellow man and their behavior . it was always about correacting our own souls. Remove the beam from your own eye….

 

[August Campbell]

Just ran across this unusual news report about lgbtq from the North Carolina newspaper The Charlotte Observer: When Steve Nichols and John Winn of Indian Trail, North Carolina, saw a story about a pet-dog whose owners abandoned him because they thought he was "gay," they knew they had to do something.

The couple told The Charlotte Observer they drove to Albemarle on March 23 to adopt the dog, whom they named Oscar. The dog's previous owners surrendered him for humping a male dog, which, Nichols said,"was one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. That's just pack behavior." Nichols noted that the dog hadn't been neutered and was suffering from heartworm, which led him to believe that "the owner didn't do anything to take care of the dog."
Oscar is getting the care he needs and will join the couple's other dog, Harry, at their home.

 

[dan27]

The fact that Humans would become EXTINCT if all were gay, proves that by design, male & female union is the NATURAL order of things.

Religions try to guide the collective followers with strict outlines.
Anything outside of these is rebellion.

You are free to choose your path.

 

[user 188644]

The fact that Humans would become EXTINCT if all were gay, proves that by design, male & female union is the NATURAL order of things.

Religions try to guide the collective followers with strict outlines.
Anything outside of these is rebellion.

You are free to choose your path.

Why does that prove it's the natural order of things? You think 7 billion people trending towards 10 billion destroying their ecosystem is order? 7 billion people 1 billion sheep 1 billion cattle 18 billion chickens. If you think the natural order is to keep trending in this direction then you must believe the natural order is extinction.

 

[Bones 2.0]

When the Amici Curiae brief was submitted to the Supreme Court in Lawrence vs Texas, I wonder how many actually understand that same *** "activities" occurs in the animal kingdom; and if this occurs in nature, how could it be "peccatum contra natural?"

 

[Bones 2.0]

The fact that Humans would become EXTINCT if all were gay, proves that by design, male & female union is the NATURAL order of things.

Religions try to guide the collective followers with strict outlines.
Anything outside of these is rebellion.

You are free to choose your path.

Did the prokaryotes get a raw deal compared to the placoderms?

 

[TheRealCallie]

The fact that Humans would become EXTINCT if all were gay, proves that by design, male & female union is the NATURAL order of things.

Religions try to guide the collective followers with strict outlines.
Anything outside of these is rebellion.

You are free to choose your path.

That's actually NOT true, given that we have IVF. Gay men donate their sperm, doctors inseminate the lesbians. TADA!!! Our species lives on.....

 

[TropicalStarfish]

I wrote a long and lengthy deductive logic piece; but, I'd rather just say...

My God is a god of love, not hate. And anyone who doesn't understand that, is just mistaken...

I don't think homosexuality is immoral either. And I think any belief that it is immoral, that uses the Bible as justification, is mistaken.

As to the OP's question. I think many Christians just misinterpret the bible often, by substituting their own bias into it. It's also a very old and heavily re-translated and re-written book. I think the vast majority of what is written down in the Bible is most likely going to be misunderstood. And I also think it's probably missing a lot too. And even so being, the original author's intents, missing or not, are quite old, and far removed from any possibility of recognizable translation.

 

[maybetrollingmaybenot]

At this stage it's easy to say that both classic western liberalism and conservatism are both gigantic failures. In the 10s' period of 2010-2015 you were considered a backwards ***** unless you immigrate to Amsterdam and wave the rainbow flag, back then liberals were on the right track, before brexit, euro falling, covid chaos etc. And then...2019 happened...and it gets worse lol. Both camps blindly defending their views are just good for one thing only: for me to laugh at them.

 

[Melli12]

My church supports LGTBQ ppl. Christians are not all the same.