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  1. M

    The Ugly One...

    I'm seeing a definite contradiction in your argument. You say that a below average man can fall back on status, money etc, but also that when below average men approach you it crushes you. Those two statements can't exist together. When the below-average man approaches you in the bar, and you...
  2. M

    The Ugly One...

    I would disagree on that one. Being a man, things you mentioned such as status, money, power etc, these are things that are not visible to anyone who doesn't know you. When I'm at a bar or club and a woman rejects me for being ugly, she has no idea what I do for a living, what car I have, wether...
  3. M

    The Ugly One...

    For the record, I’m a dude 😂
  4. M

    The Ugly One...

    I don’t feel like the ugly one, I feel somewhere in the ballpark of normal, however the single women of the world tend to disagree.
  5. M

    The Ugly One...

    As someone who is referred to as “The Ugly One” of my friends, I can relate. My friends themselves don’t call me that, they’re super nice, but other people do comment on it. Whereas my friends are all happily in relationships, I’m just the single one who can’t get anything together.
  6. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    I’m 100% the guy that gets a slap!
  7. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    See, this puts all my peers and myself in exactly the same boat, yet they’re not struggling in the same way. They put themselves on dating apps, and they get matches. I’m not saying they’re out every weekend with a different woman, but they’ve done ok, and all led to long term relationships. I...
  8. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    So I can live to the ripe old age of 90, ugly and unwanted? It sounds dramatic but I think dying in my 30s with the love of my life sounds preferable.
  9. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    I get what you're saying, and for the record I'm not 'giving up' per se, just acknowledging that I'm certainly playing this game on "Hard Mode", watching everyone else breeze through on "Easy". I don't feel I'm owed anything, or that by existing I must 'deserve' the prize, but it is soul...
  10. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    I mean, I'm not starting fights over here, but I figured a shaved head and a muscular frame would do some of the heavy lifting for me. I work in mechanics, which I thought would put me over as a masculine profession. Most of my male friends aren't particularly 'edgy', but have always done ok.
  11. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    For real though, didn't John Merrick get married in his 20s? When The Elephant Man had a verifiably more successful love life than you, you've got to sit yourself down and ask yourself some questions.
  12. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    100% honest. Like I said, it's very hard to get solid advice from anyone when they don't believe me. It's like if you had a friend who called you up asking for help with their ghost problem, if you fundamentally don't believe the premise of their question, there's very little you're going to...
  13. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    That's great for you and all, but I'm here to say that yes, sometimes there are just men out there that women are not interested in. I'm 31 years old, and I can 100% testify to that. I'm employed, renting, in shape, I'm very social and confident, yet.... they just don't want to know. Case in...
  14. M

    Is travelling worth it?

    So long story short, I’m 30 male, in shape but chronically single, in shape but chronically single, can’t get a date or any interest. I’ve asked my friends for advice, the number one thing I get pushed to me is: “Why don’t you go travel more?” I don’t…. I just don’t understand the connection...
  15. M

    Incels - A Symptom of Sick Social System

    I've always found the term "incel" to be quite interesting. So it's "involuntarily celibate", which applies to me. Aside from a couple of one-night-stands years ago, I'm a social person who cannot get a girlfriend. I'm fully employed, renting, in-shape, hygenic, I have hobbies and I'm very...
  16. M

    I'm a 31 year old guy, frustrated with being judged for only wanting to date younger women.

    I'm of a similar age (30) and also am really only drawn to dating younger than myself. It's nothing to do with status, or feel I "deserve" a hot young woman, it's more about where I am in life: Typically, women at 28+ are looking to settle down, they've had their fun years and now want to live...
  17. M

    30 And Never Had A Girlfriend, Too Ugly?

    I wouldn't knock it, they all seemed pretty reasonable women, the ones I met anyway. My point is that these men had no way of meeting women through work, no hobbies in which women were involved, and yet every single one of them was married. I'm here, having worked in jobs with women, the hobbies...
  18. M

    Life is over at 30

    I feel you. Turned 30 this year, and just feels there is nothing else to look forward to. Every year following will have the same pattern; work, pay bills, see friends and pursue hobbies on evenings and weekends. Like, none of it's "bad", per se, just mundane.
  19. M

    30 And Never Had A Girlfriend, Too Ugly?

    Haha, that's a funny video! For sure, there are some male jobs that are inherently attractive: doctor, fireman, policeman, rock star. My point is that when I'm out at a bar or club, and a woman dismisses me immediately because I'm ugly, she's not waiting around to ask what job I have. Shy of...
  20. M

    30 And Never Had A Girlfriend, Too Ugly?

    I do appreciate your efforts, and I'm honestly not looking to "defeat" you. Like I said, I definitely find people don't seem to believe me when they've not been in the same position, they always think it "must be" something else. My definition of how I perceive myself has precisely zero bearing...
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