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i was just outside staring into a bucket that had collected water in it from the rain last night. the sun was sparkling in it and then i saw a spider swimming in it.

i watched him struggling in the water and assumed he would drown and i was feeling sorry for him.

i thought about helping him, then i didn't and went back inside.

i kept feeling bad for him, and came back outside and watched him some more and wondered if it would be right or wrong of me to help him. if it would be more wrong of me to help him.

(am i going against nature since its outside?)(would i rescue every drowing spider in a river or lake?)

i decided to help him anyways. i found one of my sons little shovel scoops and scooped him out and tossed him into the wind:)

this is not the first time i've rescued a bug. usually i rescue bees that might get into my house. instead of squashing them, i catch them and let them back outside.

when i help the bees it always makes me wonder about my bias towards certain bugs. i asked myself if i would do the same for other bugs. bugs that in general 'give me the creeps.'

i've always felt guilty about the fact that i would squash them instead of rescue them too.

spiders are one of the ones that give me the creeps, although i do respect and appreciate them. i think this is the first spider that i've rescued.

was i wrong to have taken him out of the water?

someone once wrote, 'there are no mistakes' and i've found this to be true.

but i am still wondering about this, and weather or not i was right or wrong to do it.

thanks
 
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I would say, if you didn't help it, it doesn't matter, it shouldn't be something to worry about.
If you did help it, good. Obviously it will not make much difference to nature as a whole, and the spider might kill something it wouldn't have done if you left it alone. But maybe you didn't do it for nature, maybe you did it to express the wish to help something in need?

I have struggled with all kinds of mental conflicts like this.
I think you are trying to put structure and system to it. As in "If you do one thing, you should do it for everything." However, you don't need to. You can help what you will, but you are never forced to. Kill what you will.. insects are many times the ones who "started the fight" after all.
 
csmswhs--
If there are no mistakes then you did the right thing saving the spider... :) I avoid killing bugs and catch the ones that get in the house in bags and take them outside too. If it's a wasp or hornet though, I am not beneath pulling out a magazine ans squishing the little buggers because they are so aggressive.
 
When I came back from Iowa I found a spider in my tub. I started taking a shower and it started to drown. I felt bad. *still taking a shower* lalala, scrub scrub....spider drowning *still more guilt*

haha i took a fast shower. My guilt compelled me. Then I shut off the water and the spider curled it's legs over his head, like a human would in defense. THen I felt even worse.

I went to bed.

Woke up.

The spider was still there!!

So i dropped him out of my bathroom window onto an overhanging roof top.

-_-

I cant stand being cruel to anything. ><
 
thank you for the replies, i'm feeling better about it now after reading them.

i've even struggled with just walking. when i walk i unconsciously kill or harm everything beneath my feet. do i feel guilty about that? do i hold the bee more important as the grass etc..?

the replies here truly helped.

i went through a similar experience with tomatos once.

i was trying to grow them and kept failing (although supposedly doing everything right). every year i would get closer and closer but still failure.

then last year i got a couple. after everything, i could not cut or eat the tomato. i formed a relationship with the plant.

this year, i have more tomatos than you could imagine! i have tomatos coming out of my ass!!!
 
Aww, See I would take it as the tomato plant sending you a gift of it's fruit for doing such a good job in tending it. The plant is what you formed the bond with. You can even clean, and save the seeds from one of the tomatos and dry them out and plant them again next year...Sort of like keeping the plants little line going...
 
thanks Nina, i was wondering that:) the opposite happened when i actually knowingly trapped a bee to a window once, but was too scared to remove him, so i sat there in horrible guilt while he suffocated in the cup taped to the window:(

oh my

and then guess what..

i found my car filled with swarming bees the next week.

that has never happened before, or since. just that time.

since then i found a way to slip paper under the cups when i catch them now. (not because i'm worried about bees swarming my car in revenge, but because i truly felt bad). (i was going to try it before, but was worried the bee would slip out the side or push through and get me.) (it was a GIANT bumblebee)

i seem to get along with them now. they sometimes fly up to me and say hello. trust me. they are saying hello.

(don't even ask about my experience talking with a tree lol)

and thank you for the seed idea, i have been thinking of doing that, i think that would be a fine idea!:):D
 
SophiaGrace said:
I went to bed.

Woke up.

The spider was still there!!

So i dropped him out of my bathroom window onto an overhanging roof top.

-_-

I cant stand being cruel to anything. ><


Some spiders are actually acclimated to cozy indoor areas, like your house. If you put them outside they die. :p


My philosophy is as follows: If it looks violent or aggressive, and/or makes a sound when it walks, it does not belong in my house.
 
Brian said:
SophiaGrace said:
I went to bed.

Woke up.

The spider was still there!!

So i dropped him out of my bathroom window onto an overhanging roof top.

-_-

I cant stand being cruel to anything. ><


Some spiders are actually acclimated to cozy indoor areas, like your house. If you put them outside they die. :p

Eh it was either that or death by water lol
 
csmswhs said:
i decided to help him anyways. i found one of my sons little shovel scoops and scooped him out and tossed him into the wind:)

And then it was eaten by a bird. :p
I leave well enough alone when outside but inside? Any creepy crawly that dares to cross the threshold and into my home gets flushed. I don't like them and they can't share my home with me. :)


-Teresa
 
csmswhs said:
thanks Nina, i was wondering that:) the opposite happened when i actually knowingly trapped a bee to a window once, but was too scared to remove him, so i sat there in horrible guilt while he suffocated in the cup taped to the window:(

oh my

and then guess what..

i found my car filled with swarming bees the next week.

that has never happened before, or since. just that time.

since then i found a way to slip paper under the cups when i catch them now. (not because i'm worried about bees swarming my car in revenge, but because i truly felt bad). (i was going to try it before, but was worried the bee would slip out the side or push through and get me.) (it was a GIANT bumblebee)

i seem to get along with them now. they sometimes fly up to me and say hello. trust me. they are saying hello.

(don't even ask about my experience talking with a tree lol)

and thank you for the seed idea, i have been thinking of doing that, i think that would be a fine idea!:):D

I love bumblebees! I think I read somewhere that the BIG male drones don't sting, only the females. I have no sympathy for wasps. I did actually have one of them escape my cup when I was trying to save the little bugger from a "squishy-death" with my magazine.

I want to hear about your talks with a tree! I have a huge, old oak in my yard and I always go over and run my hands over it's trunk and say hi. That tree is one of the few things I really love, living here in, Nice-ville!!

I pulled a muscle in my back last year and it really hurt. I was puttering around the yard and decided to rest for a second leaning my back against that tree and oddly enough, when I got up, my back felt fine. I always like the notion that somehow my old tree-friend took the pain away. I know how silly that sounds, but I still think it did. :)
 
Nina said:
I love bumblebees! I think I read somewhere that the BIG male drones don't sting, only the females.

I am here to officially destroy that rumor. lol.. I've been stung by a bumblebee drone... but don't worry, it wasn't that bad. Bumblebees just look big and aggressive. They're actually pretty weak as far as bees go.

Nina said:
I have no sympathy for wasps. I did actually have one of them escape my cup when I was trying to save the little bugger from a "squishy-death" with my magazine.

I murder as many wasps as possible. @_@ Now THOSE fuckers can STING. lol

I was out fishing along a stream once with my brother and his father-in-law.. and needing to relieve myself, I walked up out of the stream and into solid ground, where I could pee into the brush. I unzipped, leaned back with a smile, and let loose... and all of a sudden, a tiny, moving blur of a wasps buzzed by my face. The little devil-creature zoomed down toward my woefully unprotected and vulnerable penis, no doubt wishing to attack the cause of its home's destruction. Or maybe the wasp was just an ******* and wanted to have fun by freaking me out.

Without taking time to rezip my pants, I flung my arms at the wasp and starting yelling, "Oh ****! GET THE **** AWAY YOU *******!!! SHIIIIT!!!" and other such eloquent expressions of alarm. Not even thinking of what I was doing (and only wanting to protect my poor weewee), I ran back down into the stream, chased by that ******* ancient of evils, in full sight of my brother and his father-in-law, who thought that the entire episode was particularly hilarious.

That wasp ended up stinging me on the elbow and on my ear. It was painful.

Next time I had to go pee I just unzipped and went right there in the stream. Those guys were downstream, so I killed two birds with one stone.

lol
 
Badjedidude said:
Nina said:
I love bumblebees! I think I read somewhere that the BIG male drones don't sting, only the females.

I am here to officially destroy that rumor. lol.. I've been stung by a bumblebee drone... but don't worry, it wasn't that bad. Bumblebees just look big and aggressive. They're actually pretty weak as far as bees go.

Nina said:
I have no sympathy for wasps. I did actually have one of them escape my cup when I was trying to save the little bugger from a "squishy-death" with my magazine.

I murder as many wasps as possible. @_@ Now THOSE fuckers can STING. lol

I was out fishing along a stream once with my brother and his father-in-law.. and needing to relieve myself, I walked up out of the stream and into solid ground, where I could pee into the brush. I unzipped, leaned back with a smile, and let loose... and all of a sudden, a tiny, moving blur of a wasps buzzed by my face. The little devil-creature zoomed down toward my woefully unprotected and vulnerable penis, no doubt wishing to attack the cause of its home's destruction. Or maybe the wasp was just an ******* and wanted to have fun by freaking me out.

Without taking time to rezip my pants, I flung my arms at the wasp and starting yelling, "Oh ****! GET THE **** AWAY YOU *******!!! SHIIIIT!!!" and other such eloquent expressions of alarm. Not even thinking of what I was doing (and only wanting to protect my poor weewee), I ran back down into the stream, chased by that ******* ancient of evils, in full sight of my brother and his father-in-law, who thought that the entire episode was particularly hilarious.

That wasp ended up stinging me on the elbow and on my ear. It was painful.

Next time I had to go pee I just unzipped and went right there in the stream. Those guys were downstream, so I killed two birds with one stone.

lol
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BJD--
That was a nasty situation to be in. I got stung on my butt and the back of my thigh by the same lousey bee. Wasps can sting more than once and this sucker just decided to chase me when I got up from my lawn chair. I think he got me there because it was a bright, neon yellow bikini. and supposidly all bees are attracted to yellow, I felt the poke in my butt and reached down and brushed him off while darn near screaming and the vicious little beast poked me in the leg. I smashed him flat with my flip flop....:club:I won!!!
 
^^^Hahaha... nice. ^_^ Let's make a pact to destroy as many wasps as possible.

AND DAMN THE ECOLOGICAL CONSEQUENCES!!! :D
 
Nina said:
csmswhs said:
thanks Nina, i was wondering that:) the opposite happened when i actually knowingly trapped a bee to a window once, but was too scared to remove him, so i sat there in horrible guilt while he suffocated in the cup taped to the window:(

oh my

and then guess what..

i found my car filled with swarming bees the next week.

that has never happened before, or since. just that time.

since then i found a way to slip paper under the cups when i catch them now. (not because i'm worried about bees swarming my car in revenge, but because i truly felt bad). (i was going to try it before, but was worried the bee would slip out the side or push through and get me.) (it was a GIANT bumblebee)

i seem to get along with them now. they sometimes fly up to me and say hello. trust me. they are saying hello.

(don't even ask about my experience talking with a tree lol)

and thank you for the seed idea, i have been thinking of doing that, i think that would be a fine idea!:):D

I love bumblebees! I think I read somewhere that the BIG male drones don't sting, only the females. I have no sympathy for wasps. I did actually have one of them escape my cup when I was trying to save the little bugger from a "squishy-death" with my magazine.

I want to hear about your talks with a tree! I have a huge, old oak in my yard and I always go over and run my hands over it's trunk and say hi. That tree is one of the few things I really love, living here in, Nice-ville!!

I pulled a muscle in my back last year and it really hurt. I was puttering around the yard and decided to rest for a second leaning my back against that tree and oddly enough, when I got up, my back felt fine. I always like the notion that somehow my old tree-friend took the pain away. I know how silly that sounds, but I still think it did. :)

it doesn't sound silly to me:) i have a special relationship with the tree i told you about. it seems as if he/she (?) is my only real friend. the most unassuming understanding wonderful friend:):D that knows everything deep inside of me, and knows everything else too. i trust this tree:):D

and the tree communicates back with me.

i live in an old house too, and to me there is something special about it and i run my hand along it sometimes. or just hold my hand against it

i often worry and wonder if it will be angry at me for changing it, if i do so one day. i don't think it minds me painting the walls tho.
 

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