Considering quitting my job and not working...

[user 108508]

I asked for people who would want to contribute to this discussion and Miss Guided didn't... he did.

Wrong. I offered my perspective, which is what you asked. For my contribution, I was called a 'wage slave'.

It seems like you really just wanted responses that agreed with you. Perhaps I should have just posted that your boss is a big mean poopypants.

Good luck in your decision. I'm out - meeting adjourned.

 

[LonelySutton]

Wrong. I offered my perspective, which is what you asked. For my contribution, I was called a 'wage slave'.

WRONG!

Has anyone done anything like this? Does anyone want to?

You should learn to read if you are going to be on a message board.

 

[Sci-Fi]

Okay that's about enough, cut it out please.

 

[EveWasFramed]

Okay that's about enough, cut it out please.

:shy: lol, OK.

 

[Solivagant]

Yes, I do like my job and I'm proud to be a part of the company with which I am employed. I made a very nice living and have a fantastic support staff.

Please, do share more about your wonderful career;

I actually would have liked to hear what you do for a living, MG. =] Having a job I like (that also pays well) is something I have always wanted, so I've been keeping my ears open for ideas.

 

[ladyforsaken]

Yes, I do like my job and I'm proud to be a part of the company with which I am employed. I made a very nice living and have a fantastic support staff.

Please, do share more about your wonderful career;

I actually would have liked to hear what you do for a living, MG. =] Having a job I like (that also pays well) is something I have always wanted, so I've been keeping my ears open for ideas.

Me too.

I was suffering in my previous job and there were too many days where I felt like just giving up and never to work again.

But I got this job now, I love it. It doesn't pay me as well, but I'm doing better overall with how it's treating me so far. I think it's amazing if you can find a job you like, with good support staff and with good pay too.

 

[lonelydoc]

lonelysutton, you are spot on.

The job that I just started, the workplace is filled with imbeciles and the competent people have to do more and take the blame. They can shove it for all I care, I'm out of here in 3 months after I suck up to get my references then shock my boss with my resignation letter.

Everything, everything is about living where you want to live and working where you want to work. Never let the multicultural kumbaya utopians tell you otherwise. Vigorously pursue your own self interest, everybody else does without any concern whatsoever.

Do you think the millions on welfare and food stamps care that you are supporting them? Heck no.

Do whatever it takes to find your place and to help to bring this rotten, corrupt, dying system to its end.

 

[TheRealCallie]

Do you think the millions on welfare and food stamps care that you are supporting them? Heck no.

Not every person on welfare abuses the system. Some of them ARE appreciative for what they get and honestly need the help.

 

[LonelySutton]

Everything, everything is about living where you want to live and working where you want to work. Never let the multicultural kumbaya utopians tell you otherwise. Vigorously pursue your own self interest, everybody else does without any concern whatsoever.

LOL!!

So true. I just went to a message board on North Carolina to find out about housing and where I should live. Mostly they have been negative and all start with "get a job first" -- everything they are saying doesn't jive with the facts. I am starting to believe they don't want me to come for their selfish interests. Apparently there is a contingent of people who live there who resent all these people coming down and making things worse -- traffic etc. They know they have it good and they don't want anyone else having it that way.

I hear you on the imbeciles making more work for everyone else.

 

[Solitary man]

lonelysutton, you are spot on.

The job that I just started, the workplace is filled with imbeciles and the competent people have to do more and take the blame. They can shove it for all I care, I'm out of here in 3 months after I suck up to get my references then shock my boss with my resignation letter.

Everything, everything is about living where you want to live and working where you want to work. Never let the multicultural kumbaya utopians tell you otherwise. Vigorously pursue your own self interest, everybody else does without any concern whatsoever.

Do you think the millions on welfare and food stamps care that you are supporting them? Heck no.

Do whatever it takes to find your place and to help to bring this rotten, corrupt, dying system to its end.

Great post. Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

[kamya]

Get a decently high paying job. Work for a few years while saving 90% of your income. Then drop out.

These are pretty good communities for people wanting to reach freedom as fast as possible.

http://earlyretirementextreme.com/
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/

 

[Morse Code]

So, I have had a job for 10 years. I HATED THAT JOB. Around year 5 I started to consider getting a new job. But, within two years... my boss was going to leave...my boss is an abusive ass. So I stayed. And then he extended his time, again, and again. I am 8 weeks from him leaving for good. I hope.

I had always thought that once he left I would love my job and maybe I will, but I am starting to consider a few things.

I get paid decently but, a TON of my salary goes to things that are just to support my job. Like 1/4th of my take home pay is spent on, travel to work / parking, dry cleaning, food, gifts for boss, coffee to keep me awake. My salary continues to stagnate. I get like 1% per year while inflation is like 4%. And my taxes are just insane. The more I make, the more my taxes are so there is kind of an incentive to make less.

My time ... ugh. I leave for work at 7 AM and get home at 7 PM. I get about 2 hours per day and about 16 hours on the weekend that are mine. And most of that time is spent preparing for work. What good is having money if you don't have time to use it? My life is slipping away. What good is that? I spend most of my off hours recovering from work.

Another reason I keep this job is for the pension. If I stay until retirement I will get a pension. But the thing is... so what? I mean, I don't want to fail to live for 30 years get the pension and then, have 10 years left. One thing my pension will give me is health care. But, the thing is... I feel like I am not taking as good a care of my health when I am working. If I stopped working chances are I could prevent a lot of the issues... but if I work, I won't be as on top of it. Plus, the aformentioned inflation. My pension is tied to my pay. So it is getting smaller every year that my pay doesn't increase but inflation does. Plus, at 65 I will get social security.

There seems to be something wrong with the workplace. I don't know what it is or why but all rules we have been taught to believe in aren't working anymore. Merit isn't rewarded. People don't want smart talented people. That isn't me being bitter, it is reality. People in my workplace who aren't smart and do a crap job keep getting promoted. While the best people don't. Everyone is remarking on it.. because when crap people get the jobs, we all suffer because we can't rely on them and we need to.

I have never worked in a place like this but, when I am out on leave or sick, all my work is preserved for me. Taking leave just gives me less time to do my work. So I tend not to want to take leave. There is like no respect for leave... you have the same work and if you are out, too bad.

I see a way to survive by moving to a place with a lower cost of living. There I may be able to live off savings / investments and not work at all. The thing is, that would probably destroy my pension / health insurance... and possibly some of my savings until I get on my feet. But I am increasingly starting to feel like I HAVE to do this. I am losing my life... I am a wage slave ... perhaps .. because I have just gotten used to things this way and I don't have time or energy to look into different things.

I have decided to give it two more years... see how things go and prepare to move ....

Has anyone done anything like this? Does anyone want to?

I feel like I could be crazy to do this but also, crazy NOT to do this.

I know the feeling. I'm at the end of my rope at my job now. In the past year it's become completely unbearable and I've nearly walked out a few times in the past half-year. I always had complaints I mean, one would at every job, but in the past, if I didn't like a manager, it didn't matter because they'd go away and be out of there before too long, and most of the managers always liked me because I was an excellent worker.

Now, the ones I don't like aren't leaving and they all have it out for me and there's not one I like anymore, so I'm guessing that's a sign to get the hell out now.

I graduated from University in 1995 with a degree in Psychology. I went to the job centre, picked up an application for employment, then whilst standing at the bus stop, ripped it up and threw it in the bin.

Employment is wage-slavery, like you've already stated. Unless you're on a very high salary, employment is merely a subsistence salary paid to you by the capitalist class in return for your labour. Employment is in fact exploitation by selfish, greedy, high-powered people, who look upon you as an over-head as opposed to a human being.

The workplace is treadmill, where people who have been successfully socially conditioned by the agencies of socialisation i.e. school, family, church, government et. al. go to do their employer's bidding. Employers do not want talented, bright, individuals, they want obedient workers; people with just enough brains to operate machinery, computers etc.

Employers want obedient, conformist, workers (wage-slaves) who are satisfied with pittance as payment for their labours and who are easily kept in line. The dissatisfaction you are experiencing is coming form too many years spent in line, allowing yourself to be an automaton, as opposed to a human being.

I haven't worked in many years, I survive on a small inheritance, and value not having to socially interact with people in the workplace who I generally despise. My inheritance shall run out soon, and that's when I shall have to swallow the bitter pill and return to employment in order to survive.

I'm not looking forward returning to the rat race/treadmill/cage of daily wage-slavery, but it's unavoidable. If I could figure out a way to survive without having to return to workplace employment, I'd definitely give it a shot.

Can you start a small entrepreneurship, something that takes time to build that you like to do, and work on getting it started so that by the time you'd have to go back to work, you might not have to?

 

[ABrokenMan]

Being self employed is the way to go nowadays.
It is rough, especially since you cannot predict or plan on a regular paycheck. and you will probably have very little money in the end.
Still, it is worth the hassle and obstacles to know that you have no one to answer to but yourself.

 

[ardour]

I graduated from University in 1995 with a degree in Psychology. I went to the job centre, picked up an application for employment, then whilst standing at the bus stop, ripped it up and threw it in the bin.

Employment is wage-slavery, like you've already stated. Unless you're on a very high salary, employment is merely a subsistence salary paid to you by the capitalist class in return for your labour. Employment is in fact exploitation by selfish, greedy, high-powered people, who look upon you as an over-head as opposed to a human being.

The workplace is treadmill, where people who have been successfully socially conditioned by the agencies of socialisation i.e. school, family, church, government et. al. go to do their employer's bidding. Employers do not want talented, bright, individuals, they want obedient workers; people with just enough brains to operate machinery, computers etc.

Employers want obedient, conformist, workers (wage-slaves) who are satisfied with pittance as payment for their labours and who are easily kept in line. The dissatisfaction you are experiencing is coming form too many years spent in line, allowing yourself to be an automaton, as opposed to a human being.

I haven't worked in many years, I survive on a small inheritance, and value not having to socially interact with people in the workplace who I generally despise. My inheritance shall run out soon, and that's when I shall have to swallow the bitter pill and return to employment in order to survive.

I'm not looking forward returning to the rat race/treadmill/cage of daily wage-slavery, but it's unavoidable. If I could figure out a way to survive without having to return to workplace employment, I'd definitely give it a shot.

^The Gentry have finally made it here I see. The lower classes keep the economy ticking over while he's on hiatus. Classic.

(OP) You could change jobs to something less stressful, take a hit to your income, and with stable employment perhaps invest in residential property. Tenants pay mortgage and supplement your income; you end with a house or flat in x number of years.
Will you not get severance pay from your current employer?

 

[stork_error]

Sometimes people can see things that others may not, much like skills in math science or music, it cant be taught unless the capacity of the mind exists for it.

Ive always believed that quality assurance, eye for detail, common sense, having the ability to see faster ways, better ways, easier ways, is a skill.

Being able to see motive is another skills, being able to recognize hypocrisy and corruption… a skill.

People with brains that think like this are not meant to be working for other people, its far too frustrating.

The actual answer is to own your own business and run it with your own set of ethical values and your own set of procedures, the problem is finding the right business idea and having the money to invest into it.

However, not having the money in my case leaves me with the same contemplations about my current situation as you have brought up. I've given myself one year.

 

[ladyforsaken]

Is it worth it though?
Is it better to worry and stress about the job or would it be better to worry and stress about money?

I was in this dilemma... and took the latter route. Don't regret it one bit.

 

[ABrokenMan]

Being an entrepreneur isn't for everyone.
You have to be willing to work extra hard, long days, etc.
After that, if you have an idea and can successfully transform it /market it into something people will want to buy / pay you for, then you should go for it. You can even find a part time job to help with income if need be.
Owning your own business a la franchise is another thing altogether, as you have to have a good chunk of money to buy into the franchise. One can often start their own business with very little money & capital at the start.

 

[LonelySutton]

I would get severance pay if I was laid off. 10 weeks. That plus unemployment could allow me to start my own business. However, I have been as much as told they will NEVER lay me off. My choices will always be soul sucking job or quitting of my own accord without unemployment or severance.

I do think going out on your own is (1) either a quiet secret to success or (2) not all the greatness that it has been portrayed. I am a lawyer so I don't have to have a "thing" but from what I see in most trade journals, going out on your own is a disaster. You will have too many clients, they all won't want to pay for your work because they don't value it, and many of the government ways of getting paid (court appointed attorney) are drying up. Not to mention that almost every other person I meet these days is insane so I don't want to have insane clients.

On aspect of starting your own firm is that typically you meet people and then get a job that way. But it isn't a certainty. Most people I know who started their own firm had a husband or wife to support them.

I would say that being self employed is not the way to go these days... the way to go is not to work at all -- live your life -- and have some sustainable income. Either via investments, annuities, social security etc. To me that is the way to go.

 

[ABrokenMan]

It all depends on what you choose to do to make money.
I got kicked to the curb at my long time job several years ago. They went out of business.
I was unable to find work in a related field. Rather than accept a dead end job with a steady paycheck, I chose to pursue avenues which i had knowledge in (research, publishing, writing, and selling specific collectibles). I get by as of now and am looking to expand in the upcoming year via relocation, etc.
Sometimes you have to reinvent yourself.

 

[LonelySutton]

It all depends on what you choose to do to make money.

Yes it is true. My suspicion is that if I quit and moved to NC, I would find ways to hustle to get enough money. For instance a few years ago I was laid off in law and I started working as a legal temp and I was shocked at the pay (like 30 per hr). The temp agency actually had health insurance for you if you worked over a certain number of hours in a year. I seriously considered at the time just doing that for the rest of my life. Why didn't I?

But there are all kind of things that you can do -- like take care of older people in their homes or babysit... jack of all trades.

Again, why I am not doing this... all boils down to fear.