Disgusting..

[Autumntranspire]

I remember my mom telling me about this little five year old girl they found in the river.. About how this mother was in the parking lot of her apartment, and her daughter was abducted right out of the parking lot in mid-day.. And the mothers "friends" she hung around with were child molsters, one of whom was suspected to be the guy who took the little girl. She was missing for a couple weeks when two fisher-men found her body in the river with cement poured over her body.. :/ This guy.. just had his way with this little girl and then killed her.
It's very difficult to even think about children being abducted and molested by these people who are ****** up in the head. I think if I was face to face with someone I KNEW did something like that I'd take a lead pipe and repeatedly beat them over the head. I still probably wouldn't be satisfied. And the fact that this is happening even under everyone's noses is even more disgusting. Hardly even under our noses.. It's happened, and still happening and noone chooses to do anything about it. I know that there pretty much is no "Justice" in this world.. People get life in prison over nothing, and child molesters are getting out on bond.
:/
I want to become a vilgilante.. :/

 

[Skorian]

That is some frightening anger there.

Most people who are that messed up have been molested themselves and/or been through a whole lot of nasty crap in life. Going vigilante would make you no better then them.

What would happen when you made a snap judgment on someone who was innocent?

 

[Lonesome Crow]

There's ****** up poeple out there.
Yes it sucks...that we all can't be Pualianna, hold hands and sign cumba freaken ya.

I used to be so scared with my 2 steps duaghter...that some phycopath would kidnnap them and kill them.
Especailly Tiffany..Tiffany was such a loving child. She loved everyone and would say Hi to complete strangers.
However I couldn't let my daughters live in fears. I couldn't snuff out the love and zest for life
that Tiffany had. I coudn't teach her to start miss trusting people at such a young age.
I tried to keep her safe as much as possible without confinding her to our home.
I didn't not want her to live life as if it was a prison.
Trying to teach a 5 year old about being cuatious is most difficult.

I also couldn't allow myself to live in fears...

I remember going to Disneyland and Tiffany ran after freaken Gooffy.
I took my eyes off of her for a second to talk to her sister and Tiffany was gone...I heart sank
She was a couple of hundred yard from me by the time I spotted her with thousand of people everywhere.

Everybody teaches me something.
What to do and what not to do.

The world can be a very nasty place and there's danger all aorund us.
Want I do is ..try to be peaceful with me...myself first.
Get rid of the hatred in the world...by getting rid of the hatred within myself first.
So there's less hate in the world or one less ******* in the world.

Plus I got a German Sherpard that was very, very loving toward the girls.
Any strangers or visitors that visited our home or came close to our home without notice or Gimno didn't recognized.
Gizmo was my invadors alarm. Her fangs would show as she grawed with her hair standing up on her back..lol


hate begate hate...it's like a dis-ease and is contagious.

 

[Autumntranspire]

That is some frightening anger there.

Most people who are that messed up have been molested themselves and/or been through a whole lot of nasty crap in life. Going vigilante would make you no better then them.

What would happen when you made a snap judgment on someone who was innocent?

Just think some justice would be nice.

 

[Sodium]

OMG thats really disgusting! How could people do that to little kids. A lead pipe wouldnt be close to enough!
I live in an aptmnt building and once there was this guy who used to ride the elevator and try to molest the kids who got on it alone. Luckily once a little girl was heard screaming and he was caught. Its really scary. I always get mad at my little sister when she says shes going to go out alone in the elevator but shes to young to get why we're all freaking out about this.

 

[Haven]

Death is to easy a lifetime of suffering should be the punishment for a lifetime of suffering.

 

[VanillaCreme]

That is some frightening anger there.

Most people who are that messed up have been molested themselves and/or been through a whole lot of nasty crap in life. Going vigilante would make you no better then them.

What would happen when you made a snap judgment on someone who was innocent?

Right, let them go. They didn't do anything wrong, right? It's perfectly okay because it happened to them when they were kids. It's justified. Completely.






Stop being a joke. They should rot in jail for doing that to an innocent child. To babies, little girls and little boys, who didn't ask to brought into this world. How dare you or anyone else think it's okay because it happened to them.... If it happened to them, then above anyone else they should know how awful it must feel. Who cares if adults are "snapped on"... What about those innocent little kids that a lot of child molesters admit to touching in inappropriate ways? Then you find their little bodies washed up on a river bank. But it's okay, because it happened to them. What a joke...

 

[Skorian]

That is some frightening anger there.

Most people who are that messed up have been molested themselves and/or been through a whole lot of nasty crap in life. Going vigilante would make you no better then them.

What would happen when you made a snap judgment on someone who was innocent?

Right, let them go. They didn't do anything wrong, right? It's perfectly okay because it happened to them when they were kids. It's justified. Completely.


Stop being a joke. They should rot in jail for doing that to an innocent child. To babies, little girls and little boys, who didn't ask to brought into this world. How dare you or anyone else think it's okay because it happened to them.... If it happened to them, then above anyone else they should know how awful it must feel. Who cares if adults are "snapped on"... What about those innocent little kids that a lot of child molesters admit to touching in inappropriate ways? Then you find their little bodies washed up on a river bank. But it's okay, because it happened to them. What a joke...

From beating people with a lead pipe to assuming they should be allowed to walk the streets?

Actually knowing a few things about the topic. Did you know some of these people are so tortured that they cut their own private parts off? For real. More still ask to be chemically neutered(sp). The fact that you have no compassion at all for a tortured human being. Is sad. I honestly feel sorry for people who have care so little about others. Pray you never experience the torment that some poor souls go through.

 

[VanillaCreme]

That is some frightening anger there.

Most people who are that messed up have been molested themselves and/or been through a whole lot of nasty crap in life. Going vigilante would make you no better then them.

What would happen when you made a snap judgment on someone who was innocent?

Right, let them go. They didn't do anything wrong, right? It's perfectly okay because it happened to them when they were kids. It's justified. Completely.


Stop being a joke. They should rot in jail for doing that to an innocent child. To babies, little girls and little boys, who didn't ask to brought into this world. How dare you or anyone else think it's okay because it happened to them.... If it happened to them, then above anyone else they should know how awful it must feel. Who cares if adults are "snapped on"... What about those innocent little kids that a lot of child molesters admit to touching in inappropriate ways? Then you find their little bodies washed up on a river bank. But it's okay, because it happened to them. What a joke...

From beating people with a lead pipe to assuming they should be allowed to walk the streets?

Actually knowing a few things about the topic. Did you know some of these people are so tortured that they cut their own private parts off? For real. More still ask to be chemically neutered(sp). The fact that you have no compassion at all for a tortured human being. Is sad. I honestly feel sorry for people who have care so little about others. Pray you never experience the torment that some poor souls go through.

Of course I have compassion for a tortured human being. I have more compassion towards a child who's been touched in an ill-mannered way than you'll ever know. I don't give a **** what the offender does to themselves. Either you really don't understand what child molestation is, or you're hiding something yourself.

And don't tell me about torment. You know jack **** about what I've been through in life. Stop thinking you know everything. You don't.

 

[PieBeNice]

You can't go all vigilante on them because that's like wrong but they need that justice thing to keep them away from other children and midgets so that they don't do it again.

 

[Skorian]

Of course I have compassion for a tortured human being. I have more compassion towards a child who's been touched in an ill-mannered way than you'll ever know. I don't give a **** what the offender does to themselves. Either you really don't understand what child molestation is, or you're hiding something yourself.

And don't tell me about torment. You know jack **** about what I've been through in life. Stop thinking you know everything. You don't.

Compassion for a tortured human beings, but don't care about some offender? You’re contradicting yourself.

I have 0 to hide. Kids bug me so I tend to stay away from them. I find it frustrating enough dealing with adults who are childish. I have seen kids be more mature then some 40 year olds though. Age only has so much to do with maturity.

Honestly, I think people who don't have compassion for all life, no matter what someone has or hasn't done, aren't worth a pot of piss. No one has total control over their lives and that means that we are all victoms of something.

You can't go all vigilante on them because that's like wrong but they need that justice thing to keep them away from other children and midgets so that they don't do it again.

Exactly.

 

[Sodium]

My friend got molested when she was 8 for 2 years, shes 26 now. It did affect her whole life and she ended up getting a divorce 6 months after she got married. She wouldnt even sleep next to her ex-husband the whole time because she said it reminded her of that. It ended up messed up a good life she might have had because he was a really good guy. But I dont see her going around touching kids. So why are other people doing it? Yeah you gotta understand that people react to thing differently but they cant be excused.

 

[Skorian]

My friend got molested when she was 8 for 2 years, shes 26 now. It did affect her whole life and she ended up getting a divorce 6 months after she got married. She wouldnt even sleep next to her ex-husband the whole time because she said it reminded her of that. It ended up messed up a good life she might have had because he was a really good guy. But I dont see her going around touching kids. So why are other people doing it? Yeah you gotta understand that people react to thing differently but they cant be excused.

I think it is complicated, but I think there are controllable factors and uncontrollable factors that play a role. Some people lose their minds and simply can't help themselves. Women do such things less then men, but as I saw on a Steve Wilco(sp) show one day, women do it to kids too.

I really doubt anyone would choose to hurt others if they really believed they had a choice. Some actually think God is telling them to do it. Some are severely brain damaged or mentally impaired in some other way.

There was some kid I used to know who was mentally retarded and he was charged with something like attempted rape for being convinced by some jerks to go into a women’s restroom. This was like back in junior high or high school, can’t really remember which. I have heard many other stories as well where people thought it was funny to get individuals with really low IQ's to go into womens bathrooms and once they are in there they do something a normal person would have the sense to not do. Most such people as I have seen that do these things are not all there. Most don’t really know what they are doing, or they wouldn’t do it. Sometimes it is because of people being under the influence of mind altering substances. Sometimes people simply lack the ability to control themselves very well.

 

[VanillaCreme]

First of all, Skorian, if you think that a person who molested a little kid should have any compassion shown towards them, you need to rethink some things. Have compassion or sympathy who molests children? Are you kidding? Second of all, it's messed up you're defending someone who molests kids. Rapist, molesters, murders should all be let go? They should all have compassion shown toward them? They should rot for what they do. They weren't showing any compassion toward the victims or the victim's family when they did what they did.

 

[Skorian]

First of all, Skorian, if you think that a person who molested a little kid should have any compassion shown towards them, you need to rethink some things. Have compassion or sympathy who molests children? Are you kidding?

No, if you actually took some time to understand such people you would see that they are already suffering more often then not before the fact.

Second of all, it's messed up you're defending someone who molests kids.

Because I think the average person is no better then them really. So many people are rapists, molesters, murderers, liars, thieves, vandals, druggies, depraved, liter bugs, lets see what else do people do that is despicable. I know later I will think of a bunch more.

Rapist, molesters, murders should all be let go?

Let go? Where did I say that? On the other hand when such people serve their time they shouldn't not even be allowed to live in whole cities. There are some cities over this way. I can't believe that it is constitutional to pass laws that make it so they can't even live in a city? Makes sense not near where kids are, but whole cities? If we do that then there are some laws I want passed. I want possession of a bag of things like cheetos to be a felony. Selling such things to be cracked down on like it is crack. Not quite the same thing, but still. There is some guy who goes to my mothers church. When he was like 18 or something his girlfriends parents didn't like him. She was like 17 or something and charged him with some sex crime for them having sex or something to keep him away from her. He was evicted from some nearby town years back. It's nuts. He is like 60 or something. These kinds of things happen all the time. I don't remember the exact story, but it was something along these lines.

They should all have compassion shown toward them? They should rot for what they do. They weren't showing any compassion toward the victims or the victim's family when they did what they did.

Open your eyes. Stop watching so much TV. IT IS FAKE. FICTION...... It is cooking your brain.

 

[VanillaCreme]

I don't watch TV. I watch Spongebob and wrestling, and I don't ever see any molestation watching them. You really don't have any clue what you talk about.

With that being said, I'm not wasting my time with someone who refuses to listen or open their eyes. You're a contradiction if I ever saw one. Have a nice life.

 

[Nyktimos]

I don't think Skorian was suggesting the judicial system being more lenient towards those who have committed these of offences. I think he meant that compassion should be felt for all those who are victims. If they go on to offend in this way they should be dealt with in a way that realistically deals with the danger they pose, but they should still be viewed compassionately because of the damage done to them in the past. It makes no sense to use terms like 'evil' that denies them humanity, if their humanity has been damaged by someone like themselves in their childhood. If it's true (I often hear it said, but who knows) that those who are abused become abusers, then the very thing you wish to show compassion to a child for can't simply be ignored when they go on to commit similar crimes.

I have different views on those who have not been abused as children, but who are 'victims' of their own mental illness. I would disagree with Skorian that they deserve much compassion, but my full views on that get me into trouble so I won't go into it.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

In a way I understand what skorian is saying.

The principle is the same when it comes to dealing with my Ex-GF.
No matter how much I feel she had violated me and injustices I feel about the matter.
It is that compassion I have for myself first...I know I'm not perfect as a person and I have my flaws.
It is also though that compassion that I have for her as a human that I've been able to heal through
the struggles I've been having.

For the longest time I had so much hate inside of me towards her...All that did was tore me up
as a person. Wheather through forgiveness or just accepting her as she is.
My ex-gf was raped as a child and for whatever reasons she's incapiable of forming a healthy
relationships with men and she'll hurt men consiously or subconsiously.
For the longest time i felt she was the most evil person the world....If there's evil...She was it.

Though I don't approve of her actions and the things that she do. Never the less I still need to
remove that hate out of me....compassion is the opposite of hate. In this way I was able to let go
of her...or let go of the hate I have for her. I pray for her highest good.
I can't change her no matter how much I've tried. And if i cuased anymore pains in her life...in the grand
scheme of thngs...it's not good.
A part of me still wants her to pay, suffer or there must be sometype of justice...but that's not going to happen.

I have to find peace within myself reguardless of what happened. I don't want to pass on that pain
to myself or anyone else. The buck stops with me..I break that chain of hate and pains.
As an ACOA...I was told once..if I manage to complish anything in my life is that I've broken
the chains of abuse and chaso. None of my children saw me drunk or fucken up out of my fucken mind
I raised them in a loving and healty eviornment...so they can pass on that peace to thier children and grandchildren.

I was abused as a child..that dosn't automatically assume that I would turn into an abuser myself.
So yes...I part of me wants to say...wtf ???. there's no fucken excuse for anyone to hurt people.
Everyone reacts and process life different.

However..I did managed to get myself into toxic or abusive relationships.
It's been lessons of me getting out of the victim role all my life.

The **** can get so fucken complicated at times...

I have to keep it fucken simple.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Pretty much what Pie is saying...whatever how i get to that piont

 

[Autumntranspire]

I don't think Skorian was suggesting the judicial system being more lenient towards those who have committed these of offences. I think he meant that compassion should be felt for all those who are victims. If they go on to offend in this way they should be dealt with in a way that realistically deals with the danger they pose, but they should still be viewed compassionately because of the damage done to them in the past. It makes no sense to use terms like 'evil' that denies them humanity, if their humanity has been damaged by someone like themselves in their childhood. If it's true (I often hear it said, but who knows) that those who are abused become abusers, then the very thing you wish to show compassion to a child for can't simply be ignored when they go on to commit similar crimes.

I have different views on those who have not been abused as children, but who are 'victims' of their own mental illness. I would disagree with Skorian that they deserve much compassion, but my full views on that get me into trouble so I won't go into it.

I understand what everyone is saying about feeling compassion towards those who abuse because they might have been abused when they were young as well.. But it only goes so far.. I am kind of sensitive about this subject because my father's best friend from childhood molested [who wasn't in fact abused when he was a child] his daughter whom was my best friend since I was very young.. And well the story goes on, but I'd rather not go into that story.. I can admit I exaggerated a little bit with this thread, but when a man kidnaps a five year old and has their way with her and then murders her.. That's going TOO far.. And I feel those kinds of people deserve no compassion.. I may not beat their head in with a lead pipe, but I WOULD go out of my way to make sure everyone around them knew they were dangerous, and could possibly ruin a child's life.

 

[EveWasFramed]

ROFLMAO!! @ felony Cheetos!