Do you Believe or know, there is life after we leave this world ?

[user 139760]

Proof? None except faith-based, which is highly dependent on personnal point of view, but actual scientific proof, there is none to be found so far as we can measure the world around us.
Do I believe in it? For the time being, until if I change my mind, I'd have to go with no. I find it inconsistent with everything that goes on around us and the way the world works. If there is continued existence after we've passed, it's probably on a way we can't even begin to fathom.

 

[user 188522]

Proof? None except faith-based, which is highly dependent on personnal point of view, but actual scientific proof, there is none to be found so far as we can measure the world around us.
Do I believe in it? For the time being, until if I change my mind, I'd have to go with no. I find it inconsistent with everything that goes on around us and the way the world works. If there is continued existence after we've passed, it's probably on a way we can't even begin to fathom.

Well said, Richard.

 

[user 188644]

Most likely I'll be ***** by demons for eternity

I've heard this somewhere before

 

[user 188644]

I get how life after death came to be but I don't get how it's still this "great" "deep" question. People were scared to die too and they made up reincarnation, heaven, etc. Don't get me wrong I'm scared to die too.

 

[user 139760]

I get how life after death came to be but I don't get how it's still this "great" "deep" question. People were scared to die too and they made up reincarnation, heaven, etc. Don't get me wrong I'm scared to die too.

I don't think anyone can really, honestly say and mean it if they say they AREN'T scared to die. Rxcept, maybe, very ill, terminal patients in the last stages of a very debilitating illness. But maybe them too, who knows.
I think it's a healthy kind of fear in a sense. It makes life precious.

 

[Bones 2.0]

90% chance of the answer being no.

 

[user 188685]

I don't think anyone can really, honestly say and mean it if they say they AREN'T scared to die. Rxcept, maybe, very ill, terminal patients in the last stages of a very debilitating illness. But maybe them too, who knows.
I think it's a healthy kind of fear in a sense. It makes life precious.

Or if someone has Alzheimer's,they don't know because they can't remember anything,take one of my uncles for example,he has it very bad,he is at the point where he doesn't even know who he is,it's very sad.

 

[Normski]

No.
I don't believe.

We just all go to the same places and states of non existence that we were before we were born, and the place or state where we go when we don't dream.


Then again.... perhaps

Life is about universal and karmic attornment, and debt. Life wasn't meant to be a gift. It's always been a purgatory.

A purgatory. We are here to serve our our sentences and pay our debt to the universe.

On a plane of terrible existence and realm of a place called "Earth".

This is our punishment...for whatever we did in past existences.

Plucked from the "void", trapped in suits /prison cells of decaying flesh, thrown into some terrible correctional facility known as Earth.


You pay off the debt, or when the Universe gets tired of you, you get to be rewarded the state of non existence.


You don't, you are reanimated countless times until you get it right.


There is no escaping of your sentence.

We're all stuck untill the Universe is tired of us individually.

And who or what is this universe. must have consciousness and intelligence then. And how do you answer the millions of NDE’s and OBEs ?

 

[Normski]

Or if someone has Alzheimer's,they don't know because they can't remember anything,take one of my uncles for example,he has it very bad,he is at the point where he doesn't even know who he is,it's very sad.

And where is the persons memories stored ?

 

[Bones 2.0]

Or if someone has Alzheimer's,they don't know because they can't remember anything,take one of my uncles for example,he has it very bad,he is at the point where he doesn't even know who he is,it's very sad.

My grandmother, 91, passed away in January 2022. She had severe/late stage alzheimers. After the last family member died off, my aunt; except for my daughter, I had to go the burdensome court system for guardianship and conservatorship of my grandmother from June 2021 to January 2022. I spent time with her almost everyday after work at hospice or assistant living since both was on the way home. Whenever she had a moment clarity, which improved to about 3 to 5 minutes a day because she loved me darely, I found out she was so terrified of dying that she remembered - when she forgot - of being afraid. I would walk in the room and ask if she would remembered me and she would say I don't who you are but it seems like I should. I would reiterate a childhood story she held unto and never forgot and she would start to remember and every time she would squeeze my hand and say she was afraid of dying. It broke my heart every time and a tear just streamed down my cheek. She loved her teddy bear too. And, I thought it was fascinating she didn't remember her children dying in 2019 and 2021, but remembered the one childhood story and being afraid of death.

 

[user 188644]

W

And who or what is this universe. must have consciousness and intelligence then. And how do you answer the millions of NDE’s and OBEs ?

The brain does plenty of weird things that we don’t pretend are supernatural. Fear, dreams, mirages. Not even bringing up much more severe things like schizophrenia or hallucinations.

 

[user 188685]

My grandmother, 91, passed away in January 2022. She had severe/late stage alzheimers. After the last family member died off, my aunt; except for my daughter, I had to go the burdensome court system for guardianship and conservatorship of my grandmother from June 2021 to January 2022. I spent time with her almost everyday after work at hospice or assistant living since both was on the way home. Whenever she had a moment clarity, which improved to about 3 to 5 minutes a day because she loved me darely, I found out she was so terrified of dying that she remembered - when she forgot - of being afraid. I would walk in the room and ask if she would remembered me and she would say I don't who you are but it seems like I should. I would reiterate a childhood story she held unto and never forgot and she would start to remember and every time she would squeeze my hand and say she was afraid of dying. It broke my heart every time and a tear just streamed down my cheek. She loved her teddy bear too. And, I thought it was fascinating she didn't remember her children dying in 2019 and 2021, but remembered the one childhood story and being afraid of death. View attachment 5066

I'm so sorry

 

[user 188685]

And where is the persons memories stored ?

I don't know

 

[Cherubino]

by making love anyone can get at the proof for the existence of God, immortality and the afterlife

 

[Bones 2.0]

And where is the persons memories stored ?

Askashic Records (if there is such a thing)?

 

[user 139760]

Askashic Records (if there is such a thing)?

Id go with Sto-Vo-Kor

 

[user 139760]

My grandmother, 91, passed away in January 2022. She had severe/late stage alzheimers. After the last family member died off, my aunt; except for my daughter, I had to go the burdensome court system for guardianship and conservatorship of my grandmother from June 2021 to January 2022. I spent time with her almost everyday after work at hospice or assistant living since both was on the way home. Whenever she had a moment clarity, which improved to about 3 to 5 minutes a day because she loved me darely, I found out she was so terrified of dying that she remembered - when she forgot - of being afraid. I would walk in the room and ask if she would remembered me and she would say I don't who you are but it seems like I should. I would reiterate a childhood story she held unto and never forgot and she would start to remember and every time she would squeeze my hand and say she was afraid of dying. It broke my heart every time and a tear just streamed down my cheek. She loved her teddy bear too. And, I thought it was fascinating she didn't remember her children dying in 2019 and 2021, but remembered the one childhood story and being afraid of death. View attachment 5066

I cant seem to find a sad "thumbs up thing" but my heart goes out to you. If there is such a thing as life after death, she deserves to be happy and I hope she is.

 

[Bones 2.0]

Id go with Sto-Vo-Kor

Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam

 

[Bones 2.0]

I cant seem to find a sad "thumbs up thing" but my heart goes out to you. If there is such a thing as life after death, she deserves to be happy and I hope she is.

Thanks

 

[user 139760]

Thanks

Unrelated, but kind of, Ive been rewatching DS9 and I have to admire the way they fleshed out Klingon philosophy in general, on life and death in particular. I don't know if I agree with it, but it would be one line of viewing life even on today's world that wouldnt be totally out of place and that's a credit to their writing team.
Today IS a good day to die