sloth4urluv said:
Dont get it, in that same exact argument dosnt he just prove that god cant exist too?
If god was just always there, isnt it equally as possible that time and matter was just always there too?
Yep that's true, that's one of the biggest flaws in explaining God created things, even most of Aquinas' arguments have this problem, if God was the first cause then what caused God then what cause that etc. etc.. And if you argue that God always was, then you could just as easily say matter and time always were..
But I think Aquinas' 3rd reason is the best of his..