Feeling real paranoid right now

[Mr. Sir]

Also my posts would be offensive if they were full of slurs and stereotypes, which they weren't. They were evidence of why some cultural practices are negative.

If you want me to list out what I hate about White Suburbanites, I'll be glad.

Yes they are. And what evidence? I'd like to know. And it doesn't matter whichever way you go, white or black, you generalize people because of the racial matters of some. I'd like to know what these "unhealthy" practices are.

Jesus Christ. This isn't RACIAL, it is CULTURAL. An immigrant from Africa looks RACIALLY the same as a Black American, but he has an entirely different CULTURE. I already listed the unhealthy practices.

This is ********, I know people who **** on Muslims for being "savages" all day, I know people who complain about Catholics being "homophobes", and men being "chauvinistic pigs", and complaining about illegal Mexicans, but I made this post and you all cry about it.

I hate people who pretend to get offended on behalf of someone else's race.

 

[mintymint]

So a scant 50 years after being an entire race of second class citizens, anyone who has failed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps by now is lazy? Social structures don't change with the flick of a switch.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

There's a lot of homeless mexicans where I live. There's plenty of homeless mexicans in Mexico.
I personally don't hang out with those people. There's alot of stuff that comes with the territory
that is very unhealthy

I'm grateful that I'm not in that position.

However, I been homeless or slept in my car before. Technically I am homeless, if it's not the
the good grace of my parents. I'm employ and have income at the moment.
I work with the public. I see people from all sorts of life...any where from rich people to
homeless people, hobos be it whatever race...black, whites, mexicains, hindu or asian. Male and females.
hookers, hypes, mentally ill. I treat everyone with the respect and dignity as humans...but would I actaully
be friend and hang out with any of those people...HELL NO.
I can simply burrr out " stupid lazy ass bums" (It's what I think)..but I don't. I personally think it's
not anything different then you making your remarks...

I saw a homeless young black man last night pan handling for money. It was cold as **** outside.
He was not dis-repectful nor have any type gettho mentality nor did he try to run a scam on me...
He was respectful, simple and direct. He asked me for money. I gave him a couple of dallor...it's not going to solve
his living problems...that's for damn sure. I was just greatful , I wasn't walking in his shoes.
I simply treated him with the repect and dignity. Whatever his bottom is....whatever challenges in his life.


one of my co-workers is a young women that has a condtion..she's a little bit slow and her face is disfigured. She looks sort of like that kid from the movie "mask"
My other co-workers treats her like a dumb ****. However if you have patience and take the time to communicate with her and get to know her. She's pretty much
just like every one else. In other words my other co-workers discriminate against her...
Would i ask her out on a date??? NO...there you go. i discriminate against her too. I havn't lost any sleep over it yet...
I'll totally get flamed is I call her a dorky retarded white chicks....She actaully acts like a typical blonde. So i didn't trip too hard. I'm used to that
I have an excuse...I ma in love with Chelle Chelle is a hawty and super smexy..I can't help it

I've also experince or witness what you mentioned...ScratesX.
I filter those people out of my life...yeah it's bascailly what i deem or chose as ********. It's my chioce and my life. I don't have to buy into other's ******** or mentality.

I focus on my life and what i need to do and want to do. I can't solve other people's problems or save the world.
I'm grateful for what I have today.
I'm grateful Chelle loves and care for me.
I'm grateful there's family and friends in my life today.
I'm grateful I have a nice place to live..even though my father can be a thron in my side at times.
I'm grateful my daughter called me today.
I'm grateful I'm employ and have income..the unemployument rate is sky high where I live.
I'm grateful I can read, write, play music, create music.
I'm grateful I'm in good health
I'm grateful for my material belongings...be it my guitars, cars, or whatever toys.
I'm grateful that I'm healthy and to be able to think clearly to pursuit my hopes, dreams and happiness.

 

[EveWasFramed]

This is ********, I know people who **** on Muslims for being "savages" all day, I know people who complain about Catholics being "homophobes", and men being "chauvinistic pigs", and complaining about illegal Mexicans, but I made this post and you all cry about it.

I hate people who pretend to get offended on behalf of someone else's race.

umm...I beg to differ on this. I've closed threads for almost all of the above.

 

[VanillaCreme]

Someone else's? I am part black. And honestly, I think you just say things to get attention. You say things to get a rise out of people. I hope you're satisfied with the responses you get on each and every one of your threads.

Most of your posts are tacky and unacceptable for this kind of forum. There are ways to be tasteful and tactful. Learn those ways.

 

[Mr. Sir]

So a scant 50 years after being an entire race of second class citizens, anyone who has failed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps by now is lazy? Social structures don't change with the flick of a switch.

OK, so those Irish and Italian Catholics up north who worked in factories 50 years ago and had 7 kids and got up every single day to feed their families. No one thinks about that.

Neither does anyone think about White Southerners. Or the people in Appalachia. Chinese never made excuses. Even Jews who were allegedly discriminated against made money. And in saying this, I am anti-materialism. I don't think money is the thing we should all be searching after.

Never once did I call black people lazy in any of my posts. The old black people who actually LIVED under Jim Crow arent complaining today. It's the young kids. Yeah, teachers who go to HELP them deserve to get the **** beat out of them in their own classrooms.

Again, I will say this. If I didnt care about the innocent kids who are unfortunate enough to be born into ****, I would not be calling out a mentality that HURTS THEM.

Read the post I made about my friend with scoliosis.

The day I see a ******* liberal come with me on a service trip or on rounds with the Guardian Angels with me is the day I will allow you to convince me.

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Someone else's? I am part black. And honestly, I think you just say things to get attention. You say things to get a rise out of people. I hope you're satisfied with the responses you get on each and every one of your threads.

Most of your posts are tacky and unacceptable for this kind of forum. There are ways to be tasteful and tactful. Learn those ways.

So you're part black. As long as you didnt skip class to smoke pot, live off people's tax money, act nasty/violent to people to feel cool, and then turn and blame it on everyone else, then why should I have a problem with you?

 

[Badjedidude]

I wasn't whining or crying about anything, SocratesX....I was just saying you have to back up what you say. If you say those cultures have problems, tell me what problems, that's all.

Not upset at all. And I'm not a liberal at all. You definitely are allowed your own opinion...Speaking personally here, I was flaming you for being a racist...but I did want to know why you were saying what you were saying. Lol just clearing some stuff up before this thread gets any more out of hand.

OK, I don't think SocratesX is talking about BLACK culture...I think he means GHETTO culture. It's GHETTO culture that teaches kids (and not just black kids...though many are in the ghetto lifestyle) to sell drugs for money or search for the easy way out, etc...especially when "gangsta" rap artists sing songs about how easy it is to steal or **** people over for their money. NOTE: It's not about black or white or any color....it's about GHETTO culture, which arguably IS becoming more and more degenerate and lawless.

----Steve

 

[oarivan]

I always get here when the fire has died down! Damn this!

 

[mintymint]

OK, so those Irish and Italian Catholics up north who worked in factories 50 years ago and had 7 kids and got up every single day to feed their families. No one thinks about that.

Neither does anyone think about White Southerners. Or the people in Appalachia. Chinese never made excuses. Even Jews who were allegedly discriminated against made money.

As far as I'm concerned it is those respective groups' responsibility to make a good life for themselves even if they did get the short end of the stick at one point. I just took issue with your prejudiced statements towards certain groups indicating that they were inherently inclined towards certain behavior based on their race.

 

[Mr. Sir]

I wasn't whining or crying about anything, SocratesX....I was just saying you have to back up what you say. If you say those cultures have problems, tell me what problems, that's all.

Not upset at all. And I'm not a liberal at all. You definitely are allowed your own opinion...Speaking personally here, I was flaming you for being a racist...but I did want to know why you were saying what you were saying. Lol just clearing some stuff up before this thread gets any more out of hand.

OK, I don't think SocratesX is talking about BLACK culture...I think he means GHETTO culture. It's GHETTO culture that teaches kids (and not just black kids...though many are in the ghetto lifestyle) to sell drugs for money or search for the easy way out, etc...especially when "gangsta" rap artists sing songs about how easy it is to steal or **** people over for their money. NOTE: It's not about black or white or any color....it's about GHETTO culture, which arguably IS becoming more and more degenerate and lawless.

----Steve

I think I listed out plenty of reasons. About the ghetto/poverty thing, unfortunately, I think alot of that is Black Culture, and not just ghetto to blame. Although obviously the Irish, Italians, and Poles who lived before them had some of that behavior, it wasn't disproportionately high. It's the dads who leave their families that ***** them over. You just don't see that in the Vietnamese or Mexican community to the same degree, however poor they are.

And it's not even ghetto. The examples I gave about the behavior of COLLEGE athletes or the store that was located in a lower-middle to middle-class Black area show that alot of it does have to do with culture.

On top of that, I was at a service trip tonight, served food to homless people. About 4 were white, two were Asian, one might have been Hispanic, but the vast majority were Black, and it was not even in a heavily black area. And yes, I heard them calling each other the N-word. And yes, all the people who came with me were White, Christian, Republicans.

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As far as I'm concerned it is those respective groups' responsibility to make a good life for themselves even if they did get the short end of the stick at one point. I just took issue with your prejudiced statements towards certain groups indicating that they were inherently inclined towards certain behavior based on their race.

No, I said based on their culture.

White Southerners are rowdy and aggressive as hell. That's just a fact.
Muslims keep women's opportunities limited. That's just a fact.
Catholics are very judgemental. That's just a fact.
Chinese and Japanese peple pressure their kids like hell to achieve academically. That's just a fact.

Obviously there are exceptions to the rule. But each of these CULTURES has something that causes behavior patterns in the members of their culture.

That's why I said an immigrant from Africa is the same race as a Black American, but they have too entirely different cultures.

 

[Badjedidude]

Heh well I tried...but I think you're gonna get flamed worse for what you just posted, SocratesX. Just warnin' ya. *shrug* I just disagree that it's a race thing. I think it's more of a poverty thing. For instance: Why would dads stick around with their families if they could live on welfare and **** around? Things like that.

I do think it's highly commendable and praiseworthy that you're so active in charity and service missions. That's awesome...I should probably do that more often, seeing as my county is the poorest in my State...but I don't. -_- heh me = failure. At any rate, good job!

----Steve

 

[mintymint]

Well, it can be confusing when you preface things by saying "black people are ____" It didn't sound like a cultural statement as much as a racial statement. Sorry if I misinterpreted. I have to admit though that your sweeping generalizations about different cultures just don't sit well with me. Oh well.

 

[Just_Some_Dude]

i felt dirty for just reading this thread. i have nothing to add that could possibly be beneficial!

 

[VanillaCreme]

Also my posts would be offensive if they were full of slurs and stereotypes, which they weren't. They were evidence of why some cultural practices are negative.

If you want me to list out what I hate about White Suburbanites, I'll be glad.

Yes they are. And what evidence? I'd like to know. And it doesn't matter whichever way you go, white or black, you generalize people because of the racial matters of some. I'd like to know what these "unhealthy" practices are.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

I always get here when the fire has died down! Damn this!

don't worry...man

If you hold out until 2012...a big ass rock is going to hit this fucken planet. We can all go down in flames

The bad news is...you're not going to live forever.
So you won't be able to enjoy all of this ******** forever...
Take it in and breath it in while you can.lol

 

[EveWasFramed]

*sigh*

No matter what your opinion is, it doesn't mean you can post such utterly offensive phrases. This will end badly.

 

[Badjedidude]

This will end badly.

Heh...my thoughts exactly. -_-

*steps out of line of fire*

----Steve

 

[Mr. Sir]

*sigh*

No matter what your opinion is, it doesn't mean you can post such utterly offensive phrases. This will end badly.

Give me one example of an offensive phrase.

 

[EveWasFramed]

*sigh*

No matter what your opinion is, it doesn't mean you can post such utterly offensive phrases. This will end badly.

Give me one example of an offensive phrase.

Gee...have you READ what people have repsonded with?? Go back and read the thread.

 

[Badjedidude]

No point, man...I don't think anyone here is going to see eye-to-eye on this particular subject.

Probly best to let it die a natural death.

----Steve