ardour said:This bit caught my attention. That sounds very awkward. Maybe next time try and continue looking like you're still interested in the conversation, even if just to be polite.
Her talking about how she hates her mother on a first date would have been off-putting.
TheSkaFish said:That's true, you do have more time to compose your thoughts online. But that kinda goes along with what I'm saying though - you could connect with the person when you talk online, but maybe being in person with them psychs you out a little and you don't have as easy of a time composing your thoughts. To me, that's not really a connecting-with-that-person problem, that's a connecting-with-anyone problem. I think it has less to do with a connection problem than a problem with thinking on one's feet, which is always harder than having time to think and strategize ahead of time.
Anyway. Didn't mean that as an argument, just the way I see it. I guess I feel like more people could connect and that it's not them that is the problem, it's the way they come across - sometimes without even meaning to, by making mistakes they wouldn't have made if they had more time to think.
driftboy87 said:To be honest in my childhood and early teens, I was so fat that doctors thought I would more than likely be bedridden by my 20s. So I know people can lose weight, since I'm still here at nearly 30 and train in krav maga while holding a full time welding position. But I lost that weight because I cared about myself enough to not want to die early, amongst a myriad of other reasons. And really, I'm still pretty fat, but not by too much more than the average American.
With that said I appreciate all the replies. I still haven't figured out how to copy quotes on this board yet, but I'll answer as many questions as I can from memory.
The thing about the conversation lulling out and how it was awkward. Yes it was and that was when it was pretty clear it was time to head back to our cars. Once I could tell she wasn't feeling it anymore than I was, I gave her a few seconds to pitch another sentence my way, then I stood up and asked her if she was ready to head back. She said yeah and we went on our way. She wasn't upset at all. I was actually kind of relieved that I didn't have to risk being the bad guy and cutting her off.
I grew up in the era of dial up chatrooms and later AIM, where you could connect with your friends and strangers by text. I sunk hundreds, if not thousands of hours into conversations with people from all over the world, as well as kids I went to school with. It's not as critical as time spent face to face, guys. It's nice to exchange messages through text and internet but the only real way to know if there's a true connection is to see that person - in person. This wasn't my first rodeo with internet dating, and the story with last girl I dated was almost identical to this one. But that girl and I did see each other a second time and there was still no connection so the whole meeting was pretty awkward.
I would never enter a relationship with anybody where I would expect that person to change in order to keep me interested, and yes this includes losing weight. Now I know a lot of people like to think that being obese is a result of lifestyle choices and in a way that's true. However there's a big difference between someone being 25 pounds overweight and eating salads and running all summer to get rid of the winter weight, versus someone who's been obese all their life and needs to completely relearn many different elements of living to become healthy. I'm not going to tell myself, "I'll stick by this person and help them, and then when they meet my standards I'll be ready to fully commit because they have fixed themselves to my expectations." That's super messed up and degrading to both parties.
I didn't reject this girl just because she was big. We met, realized between the two of us there just wasn't enough of a connection to warrant a second date (even though I left that door open for her) and decided to part ways. We're both now free to find better matches. End of chapter.
About the instant-click connection idea. For friends, that's not necessary to feel. Good friendships can be built over time spent in close proximity. I've got old friends across the country that I have nothing in common with anymore but can still chat with occasionally because we grew up around each other. But that gets me to thinking, again, "What if I flew out and saw this person tomorrow? Do I really still know him/her?" Anyway, I don't expect love at first sight but there's got to be some physical tension, and there just wasn't any in this case. I've experienced love at first sight and it was scary, and didn't end well. So I've tempered myself to that notion a bit but still, for me to know I'm attracted to someone there has to be at least a little bit of that nervousness you get when you're around a crush.
driftboy87 said:I would never enter a relationship with anybody where I would expect that person to change in order to keep me interested, and yes this includes losing weight. Now I know a lot of people like to think that being obese is a result of lifestyle choices and in a way that's true. However there's a big difference between someone being 25 pounds overweight and eating salads and running all summer to get rid of the winter weight, versus someone who's been obese all their life and needs to completely relearn many different elements of living to become healthy.
LonelySutton said:Being 50 lbs over weight also assists me in keeping the absolute worst of the worst away from me. If only they could invent a fat suit. So when you are single it is helpful.
Darkushydranoid said:ardour said:This bit caught my attention. That sounds very awkward. Maybe next time try and continue looking like you're still interested in the conversation, even if just to be polite.
Her talking about how she hates her mother on a first date would have been off-putting.
Yeah I agree. But if you're going to bring up your own baggage, you have to realize it's kind of wrong. It's a first date, even if they did exchange a billion messages.
LonelySutton said:Ok this time she wasn't right for you but when will guys wise up and realize that women won't go back to the corsets and diets to "attract a man". Not gonna happen. Maybe that is why homosexuality is gaining acceptance.
driftboy87 said:The irony also, and this makes me laugh, is that so many guys, lured by thin girls marry a horrible thin girl who then plumps up like the hindenberg. HA!
Paraiyar said:LonelySutton said:Ok this time she wasn't right for you but when will guys wise up and realize that women won't go back to the corsets and diets to "attract a man". Not gonna happen. Maybe that is why homosexuality is gaining acceptance.
Aside from the fact that this is completely untrue when lots of women try to lose weight for this reason, even if it were, there are enough already-slim girls out there for it not to matter to me whether the not so slim ones choose to lose weight or not.
EveWasFramed said:Darkushydranoid said:ardour said:This bit caught my attention. That sounds very awkward. Maybe next time try and continue looking like you're still interested in the conversation, even if just to be polite.
Her talking about how she hates her mother on a first date would have been off-putting.
Yeah I agree. But if you're going to bring up your own baggage, you have to realize it's kind of wrong. It's a first date, even if they did exchange a billion messages.
LOL...this reminded me of an awful first date I had once.
Guy takes me to a baseball game. It's not as hell (I loathe the heat) but I try to make the best of it. Right up until he goes for his third beer and tells me how he hates his father and wishes his mother had drank herself to death.
I excused myself to the ladies room and called a friend to come and get me.
Once I was safely away, I sent him a text explaining how uncomfortable he made me (and why) and asked him not to reply and not to contact me. Looking back it's a little amusing, but at the time, I was scared shitless.
Darkushydranoid said:If you don't care about looks, enjoy that disgusting diseased pickle of a ****.
ROFLAmytheTemperamental said:Are cocks really a symbol of attraction to begin with? I can't personally say I've seen one and thought "I'm attracted to that"
AmytheTemperamental said:Are cocks really a symbol of attraction to begin with? I can't personally say I've seen one and thought "I'm attracted to that"
TheRealCallie said:AmytheTemperamental said:Are cocks really a symbol of attraction to begin with? I can't personally say I've seen one and thought "I'm attracted to that"
I don't know. I saw a pink, glittery one once.....
AmytheTemperamental said:TheRealCallie said:AmytheTemperamental said:Are cocks really a symbol of attraction to begin with? I can't personally say I've seen one and thought "I'm attracted to that"
I don't know. I saw a pink, glittery one once.....
That clearly wasn't man made though
TheRealCallie said:AmytheTemperamental said:TheRealCallie said:AmytheTemperamental said:Are cocks really a symbol of attraction to begin with? I can't personally say I've seen one and thought "I'm attracted to that"
I don't know. I saw a pink, glittery one once.....
That clearly wasn't man made though
Hey now, you don't know who works in the factory, it could very well be a man.....making it man made
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