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I am in school right now but when i get out and need a job one of my biggest fears is a job reference. I have always hated this. The only reference I have is a boss from over five years ago. I doubt she'd even remember me. it so embarrassing for me. and when they ask for a personal reference i seriously have none. I have no long standing friends, no one that knows me. I dont even have any acquaintances right now. I hate filling out a resume for this reason. I will probably have to lie and just use one of my sisters (last name is different anyway). Its just so embarrassing. does anyone else dread this?
 
Yes i really hate my inability to fill out the reference blanks in an application. I know what you mean about it being embarrassing.
 
Yeah, I'm completely the same. Five months ago I gathered the courage to e-mail the professor I had over a year earlier and asked her if I could her as a reference. She said yes, though I doubt she actually remembered me. Now I'm going on another job-hunting session, and I'm not sure if I should even put her name as a reference. I mean, what if someone from that company called her and all she could say was, "Which [wannabeXL]?" Man, that would have been embarrassing. I don't know if I really want to double-check with my former professor again, so I probably should settle for a fast-food restaurant job or something... and hope I could get along with the manager enough that he/she could be my next reference.
 
I had this problem for some voluntary work I was going for. I asked one old friend that I don't even get along with for one has we had just spook for a bit on face-book and one of my mums friends. My mums friend did not mined but I think my old mate took he's own sweet time in doing it has they did not get he's reference for 2 weeks after they got my mums friends one. I think he begrudged doing it to be honest. I would had rather he said no. I only asked cos I thought it would not just help me but it would be the kinder thing he enjoyed doing has well.

But dude your still at school. Just ask a teacher in a lesson you enjoy or are doing well in. If I was a teacher and a student come to me and asked me to do this I would be thinking oh God moor work lol. And I would also be thinking what an honer :)
 
IM so glad im not the only one!!! its so incredibly stressful. I know im probably going to have to get to know a professor so i can use them as a reference but im so bad at that. i go to a bigger university and so im just a face in the sea. i know people who actually take their professors out to lunch for this sort of thing. i have no social savvy at all.

ive been trying to make myself be social for months now. i know i need to not just for my mental health but also so i just have someone to put as a reference!!!
 
The best thing to do is to get a written reference and keep copies of it. It alleviates the need for all the anxiety. If per say, after you complete a class, ask you professor for a written reference, surely there are some highlights that can be put into the letter, like you are attentive listener, good attendance, free thinker. Also it makes it much easier on the person reviewing your resume, no calling or trying to jog someones memory, they have it on paper right in front of them. This even works for personal references, although your personal ones will need updating more often than your professional ones.
These written references can then become a permanant part of your Curriculum Vitae/Resume.
 
The problem is most job applications would ask for a reference's name and a reference's phone number only, and I don't know how presumptuous it would be to attach written references when they're not asking for any. Plus, letters of recommendation (which are what written references basically are) seem more school-ish than job-ish. I know that you normally have to have 2-3 letters of recommendation if you're going to grad school, applying for scholarship, etc., but I've NEVER seen any companies requiring that you submit 2-3 letters of recommendation along with your resume.
 
Most 'basic' job apps that do ask for a reference name and phone, usually do not actually call them. If they do it is generally hard to jog the memory of someone, unless they have an impecable Human Resource Department. I am not suggesting that you staple 14 reference to a general basic application, there is no need for it. Companies that give out general basic apps are not truly concerned with "real" references. I am talking about your curriculum vitae and your professional resume.
A written reference works very well for a job reference or a school/professors reference. When someone is reviewing a resume, the resume that is the most streamline and easiest to discern the information from the easiest is usually the candidate that is given more priority.
Given that job turnover is so high in most all places, written references really do make the job alot easier for the person giving them consideration. It is a painstaking and timeconsuming task to make numerous phone calls and go through many people to find someone at a company who may remember you or to find your employment file, which after your employment gets filed away, to get a simple answer of yes that you were employed such and such dates. The written reference is much more personal and alleviates alot of problems down the line and shows forethought on your part. It is not just for academics.
This is from my own personal experience, as 1) a Human Resource manager and 2) a person who had quite a few jobs and with high turnover, there were not people who I actually worked with left at the company, therefore, there was no reference AT ALL to get.
 
Getting references suck, but having to get letters of recommendation is even more of a difficult task.

At least to me.
 
Yes even worse
 
I don't have any job references either, I have to use family members or leave that section blank.
 
Yeah, pretty much all of my old bosses are gone. =P Except maybe for the casino job I worked at. So future jobs would have a tough time getting professional references from me. As for personal references, I usually just list a friend or a friend's parent, especially if that person is employed them self.
 
It can be really hard to get first references. I had to list family and friends. If you have no other references they usually understand that.

This is another way volunteering somewhere can help you out. Once I'd volunteered for a while, a couple of people there became my top picks for that part of the job application and they've really vouched for me in the past.
 
^^ I'm thinking about getting back to volunteering for that reason.

Job references / letters of recommendation suck. I'm going through that problem right now considering applying for a grad program.
 
volunteering for references is a great idea. i should do that. of course ive been saying that for a year now... i just moved and its hard to get back into things. and actually, i dont have the time to volunteer right now.

but i was thinking about the reference letters and i remembered that that's actually how my mom got her teaching job. she had a whole portfolio filled and in the front she had numerous personal references from her years of working, and some from her teachers (she went back to school to get her teaching degree). she got the job- so i guess it was good.
 
Brian said:
It can be really hard to get first references. I had to list family and friends. If you have no other references they usually understand that.

This is another way volunteering somewhere can help you out. Once I'd volunteered for a while, a couple of people there became my top picks for that part of the job application and they've really vouched for me in the past.

I think I may have mentioned this somewhere (maybe not on this website), but you also need a couple references to volunteer. That could be a dead-end for some people.
 
Volunteer for a fire department, if you live near one.

Requirements:

Two Legs: Y/N
Pulse: Y/N
Number of Brain Cells: (minimum 3 required)
Capable of Intelligent Thought: Y/N (optional, preferred)


They're getting desperate in this age of long work hours and department budget cuts. :p

Boom. References.
 
If you are studying or fresh out of school / uni, then definitely go to the lecturers that had you for most / some of your units. I did this at the end of my degree. Asked 3 lecturers if I was allowed to list them as references they said it was perfectly fine and they get asked a lot.

Had some employers phone said references (full well knowing they were my previous lecturers and not employers). The thing is, lecturers will usually always say good things about previous students (the more alumni that get work, the better the school looks, the more secure their job is).

It works until you get industry ones anyway.
 
wannabeXL said:
I think I may have mentioned this somewhere (maybe not on this website), but you also need a couple references to volunteer. That could be a dead-end for some people.

HAHA...i knew there was a reason i didnt go volunteer. i do remember the forms always asking for references. too much stress if im not even getting paid.
 

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