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marigold

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I'm so lonely.. I'm trying to fulfill that ******* emptiness with cigarettes but I'm only make things worse.. My throat hurts so bad because of them.. My lungs are so damn congested with smoke.. feel awful..
The worst is that emptiness which.. I can't even describe it! it's just.. empty! nothing, hell.. When I use the word "feel" I don't actually mean it.. I don't even "feel" !! it's not a feeling! it's hell..
damn I don't know why I'm talking bosh.. sorry..
 
hey marigold

sorrows are complicated feeling, make us feel confused

it's common to fill the sorrow with a temporary high, nicotine, sugar turns to serration such an easy way to change waht we feel for the moments being

many of us are lonely

advice i give to many smokers is you should check out the electronic cigarettes they are expensive at first but the refills are cheaper and in the long run you'll save money and several years.

do you know other people who smoke at work or some place? many people here at uni socail smoking are making lot's of friends that way by smoking together

lucky B******ds

*hugs for u*

calvin_024.jpg
 
evanescencefan91 said:
hey marigold

sorrows are complicated feeling, make us feel confused

it's common to fill the sorrow with a temporary high, nicotine, sugar turns to serration such an easy way to change waht we feel for the moments being

many of us are lonely

advice i give to many smokers is you should check out the electronic cigarettes they are expensive at first but the refills are cheaper and in the long run you'll save money and several years.

do you know other people who smoke at work or some place? many people here at uni socail smoking are making lot's of friends that way by smoking together

lucky B******ds

*hugs for u*

calvin_024.jpg

Thank you for your words and for the sweet picture below:) I'll check out the thing with the electronic cigarettes, who knows.. maybe it'll works:)

Wish you luck!
 
that's not the way to do it by hurting your health. I don't care if smoking makes you feel better about yourself, that's like a guy goes eating ice-cream when he's depressed because he'll feel better by it tastes. That way has never been a solution.

I'll give you my very honest recommendation that will get you to a better state; you can't meet a lover/date (boy/girl-friend)in this condition you're in. If it was so bad, then you can't even meet or talk to a regular friend or mate. In the second case, you' might have to let it out by seeing a psychiatrist and talk to 'em till they get bored as sh*t.
Now, please don't let yourself alone that often, who do you know? ask if they'll be somewhere tonight, go there just stay with them. Nice people will not reject a simple request like "what're you guys doing tonight? may I be there with you?"

Do this for 5 times, with regular even boring mates, no need for potential lovers- no dates.
This will get you out of your down state, and will let your true personality comes once again, and people will love it and then even love to be around you for sure.

--- marigold, I' think I was in almost exact place where you tell us you are. Get yourself out, get your personality back.
For the mean time, do stuff that will let you smoke less, I wish I know what type of cigarettes you're using, don't use a cheap one. Try change for a lighter one, that won't feel burn in the throat.

(I wish you're not using that made-in-indonisia thin/light black type that all emos use, it's light and looks cool, but freaking burn the heck out of my throat!! lol:p :)_ be well
 
I'll also recommend the electronic vaporizers.

You get your nicotine without the combustion products.

EDIT:
Also, it might be a conversation starter since they're relatively new and sort of stand out :D
 
Depressedology said:
that's not the way to do it by hurting your health. I don't care if smoking makes you feel better about yourself, that's like a guy goes eating ice-cream when he's depressed because he'll feel better by it tastes. That way has never been a solution.

I'll give you my very honest recommendation that will get you to a better state; you can't meet a lover/date (boy/girl-friend)in this condition you're in. If it was so bad, then you can't even meet or talk to a regular friend or mate. In the second case, you' might have to let it out by seeing a psychiatrist and talk to 'em till they get bored as sh*t.
Now, please don't let yourself alone that often, who do you know? ask if they'll be somewhere tonight, go there just stay with them. Nice people will not reject a simple request like "what're you guys doing tonight? may I be there with you?"

Do this for 5 times, with regular even boring mates, no need for potential lovers- no dates.
This will get you out of your down state, and will let your true personality comes once again, and people will love it and then even love to be around you for sure.

--- marigold, I' think I was in almost exact place where you tell us you are. Get yourself out, get your personality back.
For the mean time, do stuff that will let you smoke less, I wish I know what type of cigarettes you're using, don't use a cheap one. Try change for a lighter one, that won't feel burn in the throat.

(I wish you're not using that made-in-indonisia thin/light black type that all emos use, it's light and looks cool, but freaking burn the heck out of my throat!! lol:p :)_ be well

thank you for your advices but things are much more complicated than you think, if I could find a date/lover as you said, I wouldn't smoke at all, it's kind of funny that you say find a date with the same problem.. as if I have so much choice! I can't find one with or without that problem, so it's kind a.. anyway.. About the bored psychiatrist.. thank's a lot, it was very "helpful" to know they don't care.. Actually I know that but it's even worse to hear that from someone else.. Thank you for making me feel a lot "BETTER" !!

And by the way I don't feel ANY pleasure by smoking !! it's something else.. Emptiness makes you search something to fulfill with, it's not about the "pleasure"..
have a nice day!
 
First off, he may have been a bit off, but he meant well. He was also right about a lover/date not saving you. Loneliness isn't cured by a boy/girlfriend. It's cured by a lot of close important relationships. (I wish I'd take my own advice). Although it probably does cure sexual frustration, so there is that.

Second, a boyfriend won't stop you from smoking, at least I don't know anyone who's managed it. That's something you're going to have to do yourself. And it will probably be tough. I've quit several times already, and have to quit again.

Third, if you are going to find a shrink, find someone who is down to earth and practical. A lot of these guys are incompetent and mostly do hand holding, but about 10% actually know their stuff and can help. "Help" being the operative word since you are going to have to do most of the heavy lifting if you want to get anywhere.

It's also a good idea to pay for it yourself. I don't know your situation or age, but whether or not someone else is paying for it, try to to pay as much of it as you can. It will help you focus and give you a sense of reality about the whole business. I didn't, and I wasted a lot of time because of that. Just saying.

Well, anyway, I know how it feels not being able to get a date. That's the state I'm in, and it isn't fun let me tell you.

Yes, I imagine your situation is very complicated, but what can I tell you? I'm a guy and we like to fix things even when we have no idea what we're doing.

So, all I can do is give a hug, and hope it helps a little bit. {{{{{{{Marigold}}}}}}

-ron

marigold said:
Depressedology said:
that's not the way to do it by hurting your health. I don't care if smoking makes you feel better about yourself, that's like a guy goes eating ice-cream when he's depressed because he'll feel better by it tastes. That way has never been a solution.

I'll give you my very honest recommendation that will get you to a better state; you can't meet a lover/date (boy/girl-friend)in this condition you're in. If it was so bad, then you can't even meet or talk to a regular friend or mate. In the second case, you' might have to let it out by seeing a psychiatrist and talk to 'em till they get bored as sh*t.
Now, please don't let yourself alone that often, who do you know? ask if they'll be somewhere tonight, go there just stay with them. Nice people will not reject a simple request like "what're you guys doing tonight? may I be there with you?"

Do this for 5 times, with regular even boring mates, no need for potential lovers- no dates.
This will get you out of your down state, and will let your true personality comes once again, and people will love it and then even love to be around you for sure.

--- marigold, I' think I was in almost exact place where you tell us you are. Get yourself out, get your personality back.
For the mean time, do stuff that will let you smoke less, I wish I know what type of cigarettes you're using, don't use a cheap one. Try change for a lighter one, that won't feel burn in the throat.

(I wish you're not using that made-in-indonisia thin/light black type that all emos use, it's light and looks cool, but freaking burn the heck out of my throat!! lol:p :)_ be well

thank you for your advices but things are much more complicated than you think, if I could find a date/lover as you said, I wouldn't smoke at all, it's kind of funny that you say find a date with the same problem.. as if I have so much choice! I can't find one with or without that problem, so it's kind a.. anyway.. About the bored psychiatrist.. thank's a lot, it was very "helpful" to know they don't care.. Actually I know that but it's even worse to hear that from someone else.. Thank you for making me feel a lot "BETTER" !!

And by the way I don't feel ANY pleasure by smoking !! it's something else.. Emptiness makes you search something to fulfill with, it's not about the "pleasure"..
have a nice day!

 
tickletik said:
First off, he may have been a bit off, but he meant well. He was also right about a lover/date not saving you. Loneliness isn't cured by a boy/girlfriend. It's cured by a lot of close important relationships. (I wish I'd take my own advice). Although it probably does cure sexual frustration, so there is that.

Second, a boyfriend won't stop you from smoking, at least I don't know anyone who's managed it. That's something you're going to have to do yourself. And it will probably be tough. I've quit several times already, and have to quit again.

Third, if you are going to find a shrink, find someone who is down to earth and practical. A lot of these guys are incompetent and mostly do hand holding, but about 10% actually know their stuff and can help. "Help" being the operative word since you are going to have to do most of the heavy lifting if you want to get anywhere.

It's also a good idea to pay for it yourself. I don't know your situation or age, but whether or not someone else is paying for it, try to to pay as much of it as you can. It will help you focus and give you a sense of reality about the whole business. I didn't, and I wasted a lot of time because of that. Just saying.

Well, anyway, I know how it feels not being able to get a date. That's the state I'm in, and it isn't fun let me tell you.

Yes, I imagine your situation is very complicated, but what can I tell you? I'm a guy and we like to fix things even when we have no idea what we're doing.

So, all I can do is give a hug, and hope it helps a little bit. {{{{{{{Marigold}}}}}}

-ron

marigold said:
Depressedology said:
that's not the way to do it by hurting your health. I don't care if smoking makes you feel better about yourself, that's like a guy goes eating ice-cream when he's depressed because he'll feel better by it tastes. That way has never been a solution.

I'll give you my very honest recommendation that will get you to a better state; you can't meet a lover/date (boy/girl-friend)in this condition you're in. If it was so bad, then you can't even meet or talk to a regular friend or mate. In the second case, you' might have to let it out by seeing a psychiatrist and talk to 'em till they get bored as sh*t.
Now, please don't let yourself alone that often, who do you know? ask if they'll be somewhere tonight, go there just stay with them. Nice people will not reject a simple request like "what're you guys doing tonight? may I be there with you?"

Do this for 5 times, with regular even boring mates, no need for potential lovers- no dates.
This will get you out of your down state, and will let your true personality comes once again, and people will love it and then even love to be around you for sure.

--- marigold, I' think I was in almost exact place where you tell us you are. Get yourself out, get your personality back.
For the mean time, do stuff that will let you smoke less, I wish I know what type of cigarettes you're using, don't use a cheap one. Try change for a lighter one, that won't feel burn in the throat.

(I wish you're not using that made-in-indonisia thin/light black type that all emos use, it's light and looks cool, but freaking burn the heck out of my throat!! lol:p :)_ be well

thank you for your advices but things are much more complicated than you think, if I could find a date/lover as you said, I wouldn't smoke at all, it's kind of funny that you say find a date with the same problem.. as if I have so much choice! I can't find one with or without that problem, so it's kind a.. anyway.. About the bored psychiatrist.. thank's a lot, it was very "helpful" to know they don't care.. Actually I know that but it's even worse to hear that from someone else.. Thank you for making me feel a lot "BETTER" !!

And by the way I don't feel ANY pleasure by smoking !! it's something else.. Emptiness makes you search something to fulfill with, it's not about the "pleasure"..
have a nice day!





thank you but you're right only about the shrink.. you guys are so wrong about the other things! I smoke because of the loneliness.. and I wouldn't be lonely if I find a person who is close to me and who I love.. who is my friend besides lover. And if I find that guy.. believe me - I WON'T smoke!! I know myself. I will be happy and I'll not even remember cigarettes! I've no energy to argue more.. Be happy guys! thank you
 

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