Medication problems.

[Azure]

well...I guess this isn't so much of a thread about lonliness, as it is a thread about asking for help on what I should do next...

I have great difficulty getting to sleep at night, and have tried every trick in the book. Store bought sleep medicine does absolutely nothing for me.. even when I take 4x the dosage, I feel nothing at all... the only medicine that really works for me is a prescription called ambien(zolpedim)..

however, whenever I need to take it, i get high anxiety, and have a feeling of being happy and excited, hopeful, depressed and alone in the world, a feeling of crying and laughing at the same time, and sometimes (rarely), it throws me into a panic attack where I can't breathe, and everything is freezing cold, then i'm burning up, and it alternates while i keep crying and laughing for about 30 minutes.

I feel like total crap when i don't get the sleep I need for work and stuff, but the anxiety I get a few days after medicine isn't very helpful, either.

I can't afford to keep a continuous supply of the medication, which is really what you are supposed to do (doctor said so, and on the bottle as well)...

and I also can't afford to keep going back to the doctor and trying new different medication.

i'm kind of stuck right now, and guess I need some help if anyone can offer it...

Just so it's not completely off-topic, I don't have anybody readily close to me that i can get comfort or help from, as i have to deal with this by myself

 

[Josh]

A couple questions for you are you getting zolpedim or ambien just wondering since you said cost is an issue. I can't think of any sleeping agent that is cheaper then zolpedim. I have heard of it going for as low as like 20 bucks from walmart so maybe you might just want to check around for a cheaper pharmacy also are you getting the 5mg or 10mg tablets because sometimes doctors right for the lower dose but they both will cost the same so that could help you out.

About having problems with anixtey and taking it only other drug that is pretty cheap and works decent for sleeping I can think of is trazodone it is mainly used for depression but it works on the serotonin in the brain to help many people sleep better it is also pretty cheap.

Something thats non prescription that might be able to help or even just use with a prescription. It's called melatonin it's a hormone produced by the body that helps regulate the sleep-wake cycles.

 

[Azure]

melatonin, you say? non prescription?

So.. look for something with melatonin in it...

and try to get 10 mg (yea, i do have 5mg, and also i Used to take ambien, then found out the zolp was cheaper, but i seriously have a limited budget, cant afford to keep buying it all the time

 

[Josh]

melatonin, you say? non prescription?

So.. look for something with melatonin in it...

and try to get 10 mg (yea, i do have 5mg, and also i Used to take ambien, then found out the zolp was cheaper, but i seriously have a limited budget, cant afford to keep buying it all the time

You don't need to find something with melatonin in it. It is a seprate supplment I would suggest going to your nearest walgreens, rite aid or whatever pharmacy is close by you will be able to find it with where they keep like vitamins and other supplments. You should just get a pure melatonin supplment it should come in 3mg and probaly shouldn't be more then like 5 bucks for a 100 if even that high.

Things you should know about melatonin is it takes a bit longer for it to kick in then ambien usally should be taken about 2 hours before bed time and needs to be taken regulary if it seems to work quicker then you can move up time you take it. Also another thing is it takes around 1-5 days or so for it to work so give it some time before giving up on it I would suggest try it for atleast 1-2 weeks and if doesn't work after that then might not be good enough.

Back to the ambien/zolpidem you should really look into getting the 10mg zolpidem they are pretty cheap I think a you probaly could get a month supply for around 20-25 dollars which is pretty cheap.

Good luck on finding something that works I really hope you can because I know how bad insomina is I have it pretty bad too.

 

[Azure]

20-25 for a months supply is VERY cheap...
i would have thought the price would double, since the mg would double...


thanks for the information, i'm new to these sorts of things . . .
thanks again..[/align]

 

[Josh]

20-25 for a months supply is VERY cheap...
i would have thought the price would double, since the mg would double...


thanks for the information, i'm new to these sorts of things . . .
thanks again..[/align]

It is really wierd how with increases of strenght of drugs the price seems to never go up with it. Also you really might want to look into mail order pharmacies they often want you to pay for 3-6 months at a time but the savings can be amazing there.

 

[NewBirth]

or order from canada

is what some might say

 

[Josh]

I would very strongly suggest against ordering from either canada or mexico or pretty much any country outside of US. Problems with other countries like canada is that they have socialized medicine which means the goverment controls it and it really does hurt the quality of goods since no competion really no need to make things better and better they settle for ok.

Oh and mexico just has very little standards in the way of how drugs are made and what kind of regulations are on them.

 

[NewBirth]

wrong^
canada has more stringent controls & regulation than the us does. on mexico ur right though

 

[Josh]

wrong^
canada has more stringent controls & regulation than the us does. on mexico ur right though

Have you worked in the pharmacy industry at all or is you agrument just based on things you have read and seen? I know a pretty good deal about canada's regulations because I was thinking about going to school there. I learned alot about how things work up there.

The drugs are pretty much always safe but the problem is they don't invest near the same amount of money we do into the pharmacy industry so they are pretty much behind on the newer drugs so often times they will use an older drug then we would.

I reread my own post and I can see how you thought I was saying there controls and regulations were underpar it's not that as much as they really aren't working hard to make newer and better drugs like we do in the United states.

I just wanted to add something someone at my school was talking about this and brought up a great example. Here it is lets say two people have a job and there is a opening for a better job they are both pretty much equal so are they going to both work much harder to try and get the new job they will do things like extra work stay late and so on. This is what comptetion causes now lets say there is no better job are these two going to work harder no they are going to just do the minium required to keep there job if there is no incetive for something better then they will just stay happy where they are. So what I am trying to say is when you take the competition out you end up with less quality.

 

[lonelygirl]

I used to take Ambien every night to sleep.

I kicked the habit just because I didn't want to keep taking a sleeping pill every night.

Have you ever considered taking two Benadryl like 30 minutes before bed? It really does work. It also gets rid of any nasal congestion or stuffy head you might have at night.

Also, I highly suggest this tea called Yogi tea. I think it's called Bedtime or Sleepy time. It's herbal, so NO caffeine.

Other suggestions (I've also suffered from major sleep problems, anxiety before sleeping, and insomnia).

Exercise daily for at least 15 minutes walk. At least 3 hours before bedtime.

Try to have a regular bedtime and go to bed every single night at the same time even if you aren't tired yet.

No television in bed or murder mysteries. Just relaxing literature.

Also there are some WONDERFUL scientist-designed relaxation CDs you can play before you sleep. It's very good to help you unwind.

 

[Presence]

mmmm I felt the same, I went to my doctor and asked for sleeping tablets twice both times said it's best not to because im too young. So I tried a few things; reading, playing gaes, listening to some music and physical activites.

None of them I could keep in a routine.

but then I ran into a book called "The Power Of Now" Eckhart Tolle. Sounds a cliche but it's the best thing I ever read(beats harry potter) basically the thing thats stopping you from sleeping is your ego, it is the incessant mind dialos that keeps running through your head and doesn't allow you to "LIVE" Im mean really live, your just resisting the moment. Anyhow this takes up the space in you. so what you need to do is make some space, that way you can empty your mind, I won't explain the methods because Im lazy but if you really want to sort this out buy the book immediately.

It's the spiritual path towards your problem and it's the most long lasting and the most effective, it goes beyond mind..........................................