pot,weed,ganja

[IgnoredOne]

Yes. Awareness is a gift.

 

[LoneKiller]

It just sounds like you are insulting me is all.

 

[IgnoredOne]

Not the intention, and I apologize if it was taken as such.

 

[LoneKiller]

Nah. It's cool man. I'm just not sure what you were trying to get across is all.


And you supported evil, which you fail to acknowledge. You provided a direct contribution to the misery and suffering of others, to the destruction of innocence and the murder of good individuals. And for what?

Supported Evil? Fail to acknowledge?

 

[IgnoredOne]

You don't seem to acknowledge that your actions directly caused the harm of others; perhaps you do, for which I would be incorrect. But it doesn't seem like it is so; something that I feel is important for one to realize, and regret. I've done things that I am not proud of too; I remember them and my redemption is half of the reason why I am so driven.

 

[LoneKiller]

Not a day goes by that I do not regret the magnitude of pain that my addiction caused to the people I love the most. When you are a hard core addict it's all about number one.

Everyday life becomes an inconvenience. As much as I wish that I could forgive myself for the horrendous things I did and said to my family in my constant pursuit of my next high and drink. I just can't.

I will never be able to make up for all of the pain that I caused. When it comes to addiction, the only true way to understand an addict is if you have been one yourself. I don't care if someone surfs the web 24/7, doing research or reads a bunch of books, or goes to a seminar on the subject. It's not the same. You have to be one to truly understand it. Regret haunts me every damn day.

 

[IgnoredOne]

Then share what you share and try to save others, for if even one listens, a life saved is a life redeemed thanks directly to you. It makes everything else more meaningful, I like to think. For everyone I have taken down for their evil, I know, it helps make me realize that my experiences too, have come to serve some greater good. I'm glad you've come to realization. It is grace.

 

[LoneKiller]

How do you know that I don't? I've had people approach me asking for advice on kicking. I hate seeing others suffer.
So many people use drugs and alcohol to cope with their problems. That although understandable, can be a death sentence. I don't want to see anyone go through what I did. This link below might give you a deeper understanding of how I operate and how much I really do care.

You are a very intelligent person. When you post, I read. But that doesn't make you Yoda. C'mon now.

http://www.alonelylife.com/thread-what-using-drugs-and-alcohol-to-mask-my-pain-did-to-my-life

 

[Tear of the Goddess]

Well, it's legal here. Not that much evil about it.

 

[Parabolani]

Well. I'm not so sure I agree Ignored. I don't believe that weed is evil. I can't speak for others, but being a recovering addict of over a decade. I have experience abusing weed and liquor. It's been my experience that alcohol is far more destructive than weed, and alcohol is legal. The government should legalize weed and tax the **** out of it. They have much bigger fish to fry. All that money spent to go around busting weed dealers and their crops, would be better applied to existing funds used to combat seriously dangerous drugs such as heroin and meth.

People have been smoking weed since the stone age. I know people who have been smoking weed for a little north of 20 years now, and they're just fine. I can't say the same for some of those I knew who drank like fish may they rest in peace.

Marijuana also contains healing properties for some. I can't think of anything therapeutic about booze. Not one.

I agree 100%

Pot is a psychedelic drug that alters one's perception of reality. Done often, it can change people's personality, ruin their discipline and motivation, and give an illusory sense of joy/happiness when nothing has been accomplished. I speak from personal experience, and I have several friends that have succumbed to that drug and have their potential to make something out of their life ruined.

I'm not out there to argue with pot addicts; I've been close to being one, I've had friends that are such, and I state my point with confidence. I will find it very, very hard to trust someone who abuses this drug.

I also agree 100%

I am a recovering weed addict and an alcoholic and when I say I was a weed addict, the human body can not become cannabis dependent in the same way it can become dependent to other drugs.
Cannabinoid receptors are proof that cannabis has it's place in the human body. I have a friend who is a chronic pain sufferer, she is prescribed Tramadol (which is just another name for heroin) she smokes weed instead because it's the only thing that makes her feel better. Argue with that.

The other argument I have is this. Not everyone can travel to Mars, or win a gold medal or be the President of the USA or be a porn star only an extreamly small minority of people can be what they want to be. So what's wrong with people who decide they are just going to chillax get high and do as little as possible. Yes cannabis should be legal, yes alcohol should be illegal, yes cannabis is bad for you if you abuse it and should you be getting high when you could be learning the violin or building the worlds longest bridge or picking your kids up from school. Should you spend Sunday wandering aimlessly around Ikea, or doing pillaties, or watching Big Brother and eating Sara Lee when you could be passing the purple kush?

I forget the question (short term memory loss) but weed can be good and bad in the same way that all drugs can be good or bad.

 

[IgnoredOne]

How do you know that I don't? I've had people approach me asking for advice on kicking. I hate seeing others suffer..

That's good to hear but I suppose that for me, I feel its important to operate from another angle - not of pity, but of realization of the evil that it brings. I don't find it understandable or acceptable that people use it to cope; at the very best, it is contemptible weakness, at the very worst, it is irresponsible selfishness. And that their irresponsibility will cause harm to others - its in every way a cancer.

The other argument I have is this. Not everyone can travel to Mars, or win a gold medal or be the President of the USA or be a porn starSad only an extreamly small minority of people can be what they want to be. So what's wrong with people who decide they are just going to chillax get high and do as little as possible.

Parasites are deplorable and at the end of the day, they have an enormous cost - the cost they place on society as a whole. Its literally the definition of a societal crime; one that harms the human race itself and an insult to the dignity of intelligence, the one thing that distinguishes man from beast.

 

[Phaedron]

I don't currently smoke, but I look forward to the day that I will no longer bear the shame of the heathen and will get my plant of renown as the Bible says. And No it is not a cancer, it cures cancer. Except for overuse and addiction it is 100% a miracle healing plant full of only good and whoever demonizes it is someone I would gladly slay on the battlefield.

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[IgnoredOne]

I don't currently smoke, but I look forward to the day that I will no longer bear the shame of the heathen and will get my plant of renown as the Bible says. And No it is not a cancer, it cures cancer. Except for overuse and addiction it is 100% a miracle healing plant full of only good and whoever demonizes it is someone I would gladly slay on the battlefield.

[video=youtube]

Of course, your lightbearing aliens brought to here, its only the evil reptilians like myself who try to keep you all down.

And to the second part - seriously, try me, bro. I'll love it.

 

[Sci-Fi]

Okay, enough with the insults or this thread will be shut down and those involved may be finding themselves getting a time out.

 

[Syber Tiger]

wow,this thread grown fast

enyays
*back to topic*


smoking weed and feeling better for a few hours

is mutch better than to deal with susiside...

 

[perfanoff]

Hey, I don't insist on taking credit for other people's posts!

If you feel like suicide is an option maybe you have other problems in life that you ought to solve. Problems rarely disappear by themselves.

 

[Tear of the Goddess]

 

[Felix]

Parasites are deplorable and at the end of the day, they have an enormous cost - the cost they place on society as a whole. Its literally the definition of a societal crime; one that harms the human race itself and an insult to the dignity of intelligence, the one thing that distinguishes man from beast.

It's all about the frame you use...

If you just put society in the frame, drug addicts can resemble parasites. There are bigger ones tough, the bankers who provoked a world crisis 5 mins ago for example. Yep, true badass parasites certainly do look pretty in their suits. They are well adapted parasites, they are so much better.

You see, druggies are too evident, they never last long. But this guys... They live long lifes, they mimetize perfectly. They can survive a long time. They can even make you think they're not the real enemy.

Anyways, if you include the rest of the wolrd among with society in that frame, you'll see society is the cancer of the world. As we speak, we're sucking the life out of this earth. One hundred species will dissapear today, for the sake of society. So it all depends...

 

[Bones]

To get this out of the way, illegal is illegal; but, the thread went into a comparison of alcohol vs marijuana and I expanded to how a lot of things can be dangerous.

For just about anything, if it is not used in moderation, it can be dangerous to your health.

If you eat fast food everyday, on a health level, it is just as bad as someone drinking, smoking, etc.

In fact, I am a data analyst for health insurance and the amount of expenditures are worse for health care related cost for people with bad eating habits, alcohol, prescription drug abuse, etc as compared to the health care cost of marijuana and the other associated costs for it. (Our data shows 3:1 or more.)

Therefore, if the part of it being illegal is ruled out, it has always boggled my mind how some people will get "all in up arms" about marijuana, but not look at other instances of health care related costs and/or cost to society - especially people who drink, condone drinking, but flip out over marijuana.

I would surmise the conditioned response for attitudes and beliefs of how horrible marijuana is - even if used for for medical purposes - is due to big pharma (pharmaceutical companies) and their lobbying activities.

The problem is that it is out of their hands since people could grow it and big pharma would not receive a dime out of it and political donations would decrease.

Please note:

~ I am only referring to our state since I live here, I have heard people's arguments, and my profession concerning data mining activities for health care insurance costs, and.

~ Personally not caring what people do as long as it does not harm me since I live by: do what will, but harm none.

ps: I was not able to complete the above last night for further discussion since I was locked out for some unknown reason.