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why do women want to have men to themselves?

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question is above. you dont have to read, agree to, or even acknowledge the rest.

hell marry you, have children with you, contribute time and money, a home, a vehicle, and more, etc. but he still wants ***... stopping him seems harshly controlling. thats like a man never letting a woman leave the house...

i think it comes from a lack of trust. like parents worried about their children, so they become overly protective. they mean well, but they over do their power so much that the child rebels.

the spouse probably doesnt trust the other. they probably mean well, but they begin to question and control everything the other does, becoming overly protective. they mean well, wanting to protect the marriage, but they push the other away.

just like with kids, and all things. you have to let them free, so they can come back to you. otherwise all youre doing is holding them back.
 
Exclusivity in a marriage or relationship is a sign of mutual respect. The idea is that "I won't sleep with this other person because I love you so much that I don't find any one else interesting or sexy at all."

When I'm with a woman in a long-term relationship, I expect nothing less than complete faithfulness, honesty, and sexual/emotional exclusivity. Am I being selfish for that? Is that "holding" a woman back? I don't think so....because those qualities are what I offer to her. It's only right that she give the same in return.

----Steve
 
Badjedidude said:
When I'm with a woman in a long-term relationship, I expect nothing less than complete faithfulness, honesty, and sexual/emotional exclusivity. Am I being selfish for that? Is that "holding" a woman back? I don't think so....because those qualities are what I offer to her. It's only right that she give the same in return.


I agree bjd, but it can be a real messed up situation when a guy can't get *** from anywhere. If his wife isn't putting out at all, then what's a guy to do?
 
mintymint said:
If his wife isn't putting out at all, then what's a guy to do?

I see your point...but maybe the guy shouldn't have married such a cold ***** in the first place.

I'm sorry everyone, but women who withhold *** or use it as a weapon are *******. Period. And if the wife just isn't that excited about *** or something....then the husband should have known that before marrying her.

And if worse comes to worse, then maybe they should communicate a bit more and find a reasonable solution. And if no solution can be found, he should consider either leaving her or giving up ***. Speaking personally, I'll be VERY careful to find a woman that LOVES *** (with me, and as frequently as possible)....so hopefully I'll never face this dilemma.

----Steve
 
i couldnt accept pity ***. thats like ****. you shouldnt have to do it, if you dont want too. im not talking about cheating either, because obviously lying is bad, and will destroy the relationship. i just dont see how someone feels they have the right to tell someone else who they can have *** with. seems abusive. it made sense with religion and a lack of birth control some years back. but those things dont affect us now, most people get divorces, have had other relationships, hell most people arent even virgins when theyre married. its not like the vows mean anything anymore. there are exceptions.
 
h i said:
i couldnt accept pity ***. thats like ****. you shouldnt have to do it, if you dont want too. im not talking about cheating either, because obviously lying is bad, and will destroy the relationship. i just dont see how someone feels they have the right to tell someone else who they can have *** with. seems abusive. it made sense with religion and a lack of birth control some years back. but those things dont affect us now, most people get divorces, have had other relationships, hell most people arent even virgins when theyre married. its not like the vows mean anything anymore. there are exceptions.

i REALLY don't agree with your point-of-view at all.

i know swingers, i have had friends, acquaintences, and coworkers who were in that lifestyle. I have been invited into that lifestyle and declined on multiple occasions. there are people for whom that works. i am not one of them. there are people who crave multiple sexual partners over the loving intimacy of one special person. i am not one of them. i don't know how old you are, but if you are young as i suspect you may be, when your hormones regulate you will realize that ******* anything that moves by you is not a very fulfilling lifestyle, you may begin to understand. so, it is not religion or birth control that makes me want to love, cherish, and care for ONE woman, it is in my nature. so, swing on my friend, just wrap it before you tap it, and be prepared to feel as though your spirit/soul/self (whatever you want to call it) will be spread 'paper thin'. good luck!
 
Just_Some_Dude said:
when your hormones regulate you will realize that ******* anything that moves by you is not a very fulfilling lifestyle, you may begin to understand. so, it is not religion or birth control that makes me want to love, cherish, and care for ONE woman, it is in my nature. so, swing on my friend, just wrap it before you tap it, and be prepared to feel as though your spirit/soul/self (whatever you want to call it) will be spread 'paper thin'. good luck!

yep. they just don't teach this stuff in school.. so, what's going to happen in puberty again?.. well your hormones will lose the plot, which will lead you to losing the plot and if you survive maybe you'll be able to look back a see how much plot losing there was going on..

lifestyle choice is personal and i respect the respectful following of your lifestyle. it's a shame some natures lack respect for the natures of others.

"Paper Thin Self" - good song title.
 
The only time I think it's acceptable for a woman to use *** as a tool with her husband is if they're just kinky like that. Withhold ***? Geeze. My husband best be givin it up three times a day! More, if I want it... and I don't want to hear any back talk.

As for why we don't want to share... a lot of men don't want to, either. I know it works for some people, but I wouldn't feel like it was a "committed relationship" if we were sexing other people. If I'm married, he's my husband. He belongs to me, dag nabbit.
 
PoWer2tHePeOpLE said:
Just_Some_Dude said:
when your hormones regulate you will realize that ******* anything that moves by you is not a very fulfilling lifestyle, you may begin to understand. so, it is not religion or birth control that makes me want to love, cherish, and care for ONE woman, it is in my nature. so, swing on my friend, just wrap it before you tap it, and be prepared to feel as though your spirit/soul/self (whatever you want to call it) will be spread 'paper thin'. good luck!

yep. they just don't teach this stuff in school.. so, what's going to happen in puberty again?.. well your hormones will lose the plot, which will lead you to losing the plot and if you survive maybe you'll be able to look back a see how much plot losing there was going on..

lifestyle choice is personal and i respect the respectful following of your lifestyle. it's a shame some natures lack respect for the natures of others.

"Paper Thin Self" - good song title.

lol. i have no idea what you just said. i only know it was deep. and i reread it like three times. can you give it a second whack just to humor me? :)

nerdygirl said:
As for why we don't want to share... a lot of men don't want to, either. I know it works for some people, but I wouldn't feel like it was a "committed relationship" if we were sexing other people. If I'm married, he's my husband. He belongs to me, dag nabbit.

two thumbs way up! :cool:
 
i was agreeing with you that during adolescence and early adulthood hormones effect your perceptions. as in, you may not realise at that stage in your life shagging everything that moves can have negative emotional consequences. (paper thin soul)

i was also trying to emphasise the respect we should all give each other when trying to accept each other's choices in life. (lifestyle)

you wrote that your nature is monogamistic. and that is cool. my grievance was with the fact that other natures, say polygamystic, may not be open/honest/respectful of the monogamist. maybe even because of their nature.

you know.. like an emotional sadist preying on a good heart.

was that clearer? idk.. i could just be making pretty patterns with letters. it's possible :]
 
PoWer2tHePeOpLE said:
was that clearer? idk.. i could just be making pretty patterns with letters. it's possible :]

You make real pretty patterns with letters, though. Really, I love your posts. Some of them are downright trippy. I can can behind that.
 
PoWer2tHePeOpLE said:
i was agreeing with you that during adolescence and early adulthood hormones effect your perceptions. as in, you may not realise at that stage in your life shagging everything that moves can have negative emotional consequences. (paper thin soul)

i was also trying to emphasise the respect we should all give each other when trying to accept each other's choices in life. (lifestyle)

you wrote that your nature is monogamistic. and that is cool. my grievance was with the fact that other natures, say polygamystic, may not be open/honest/respectful of the monogamist. maybe even because of their nature.

you know.. like an emotional sadist preying on a good heart.

was that clearer? idk.. i could just be making pretty patterns with letters. it's possible :]

no, that was much clearer. thanks. i couldn't agree more. it does seem that anyone who chooses to live any facet of his or her life in a traditional way nowadays is singled out and persecuted.
 
Just_Some_Dude said:
no, that was much clearer. thanks. i couldn't agree more. it does seem that anyone who chooses to live any facet of his or her life in a traditional way nowadays is singled out and persecuted.

*nods* Just like some extreme feminists criticizing women who choose to stay home with their kids.

People ought to respect one another enough not to say that different choices are "wrong" or "right."

I have a friend who is polyamorous (not a swinger), and she's talked about her bfs and how her husband encourages her in it. They keep open communication about what's going on, and I guess, there is no jealousy.

I know that I couldn't do it, nor could I swing. It is really foreign to me.
 
cheaptrickfan said:
PoWer2tHePeOpLE said:
was that clearer? idk.. i could just be making pretty patterns with letters. it's possible :]

You make real pretty patterns with letters, though. Really, I love your posts. Some of them are downright trippy. I can can behind that.

thanks dude ;]

i like yours too, they cut through the vague and i've had more than a laugh or two.. pretty good deal i reckon. and if my posts make you do the cancan, i can only encourage it :p

Just_Some_Dude said:
no, that was much clearer. thanks. i couldn't agree more. it does seem that anyone who chooses to live any facet of his or her life in a traditional way nowadays is singled out and persecuted.

yeah, i looked between the cushions of my couch and all i found was a cigarette butt, a rubber band and some change, not much acceptance though.

cheaptrickfan said:
I know that I couldn't do it, nor could I swing. It is really foreign to me.

and a mite creepy..
 
ya, like there was this one time, i got invited to a "jacuzzi" party. i went. but they weren't partying, at least not according to any definition of the word that comes to mind. i can think of other verbs. i was the odd man out with my six pack of "BUD" (yes, BUD). so i left and had a good chuckle about it. can you imagine that water? eww.
 
Just_Some_Dude said:
ya, like there was this one time, i got invited to a "jacuzzi" party.

There is not enough bleach in the world to make that right again.

And, really? Budweiser? *sigh*


Call me when you're bringing along some Hefeweisse.

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Just_Some_Dude said:
ya, like there was this one time, i got invited to a "jacuzzi" party. i went. but they weren't partying, at least not according to any definition of the word that comes to mind. i can think of other verbs. i was the odd man out with my six pack of "BUD" (yes, BUD). so i left and had a good chuckle about it. can you imagine that water? eww.

lol.. er.. so, where should i put my bud?

cheaptrickfan said:
Just_Some_Dude said:
ya, like there was this one time, i got invited to a "jacuzzi" party.

There is not enough bleach in the world to make that right again.

Call me when you're bringing along some Hefeweisse.

lol.. yeah Joe, just keep backing that bleach truck in. that's it.

that looks like some very polished brew ctf, i can see myself getting to know it better..
 
Just_Some_Dude said:
ya, like there was this one time, i got invited to a "jacuzzi" party. i went. but they weren't partying, at least not according to any definition of the word that comes to mind. i can think of other verbs. i was the odd man out with my six pack of "BUD" (yes, BUD). so i left and had a good chuckle about it. can you imagine that water? eww.

Foamy.
 

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