Who else loves Joker???

[CenotaphGirl]

This is different though.
It's absolutely not the super criminal mastermind joker.
This is just a poor guy who works low paying job as an agency clown and is treated horribly because he is awkward and different.
This is not the "Jack Nicholson" joker.
It's really not even any Joker from the comic books.
It's pretty much any guy who was mercilessly picked on in school.
Watch the movie. It's very unique.

I agree, I feel like it painted a picture of a kind of man that went ignored in society for a long time.
The type to have a sick mother and no father figure. The type to be seens as weird and creepy due to a neurological disorder. Was interesting, I feel like people didnt like it because it peeked into the incel rage everyone was seeing online.

 

[user 135671]

So I watched this last night, it was a bit disappointing to be honest. The production design is great. Phoenix puts in a good performance, though not his best.

It's obviously a laborious and pointless homage to the Scorsese/De Niro classic The King of Comedy with a bit of Taxi Driver thrown in, the connection is signalled by the casting of De Niro himself, which means that at various moments it’s a bit like The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver, only not as good.

 

[ardour]

Travis Bickle was closer in every way to an incel than Arthur Flek, but the film is a classic, and almost 50 years old.

 

[Unsigned]

Travis Bickle was closer in every way to an incel than Arthur Flek, but the film is a classic, and almost 50 years old.

And it perfectly captured NYC in the 70s.
It was a fantastic film.

 

[TheSkaFish]

"Jookah? You were supposed to take those out of the deck!"

 

[TheSkaFish]

And it perfectly captured NYC in the 70s.
It was a fantastic film.

That reminds me, I'd been meaning to ask you -
from what I've read about NYC in the '70s and '80s, it looked like a pretty scary place.
As someone who was actually there during that time, what was it really like?

 

[Unsigned]

That reminds me, I'd been meaning to ask you -
from what I've read about NYC in the '70s and '80s, it looked like a pretty scary place.
As someone who was actually there during that time, what was it really like?

There was considerably more violent crime than now, but it was mostly in certain areas. and everyone knew of these areas.
Yes, there were random muggings in nice areas, but you would NEVER see a "flash mob" robbery at a 5th avenue luxury store.
So crime was more prevalent back then, but much less brazen.
There was a certain fear among criminals back then about venturing into certain areas. That fear now seems to be gone, or at least waning.

Personally, I can tell you there is an ENORMOUS difference as far as "ladies of the evening" go.
On a Saturday night on 11th Ave on the west side, or Park Ave on the east side, there would be hundreds upon hundreds of girls working.
And when I say girls, yes, I mean many (at least 50%) of them were teens. And their pimps were in full view.
The typical fee was 100/hr if you went to a hotel, and the hotels ranges from $20 to $30.
This eventually came to a halt once Rudy was elected mayor.
And that was when I switched from streetwalkers to escort agencies.
So for people who like to associate Rudy with what they feel are negative things, I would ask that you consider he ALONE was responsible for completely dismantling the Manhattan streetwalker scene and the parasitic pimps who abused and exploited these girls.
Hypocritical of me to say this, given that I participated as a customer?
Perhaps.
But I did care about and show concern to the regulars I had back then. They seemed not to care much about my concerns for them.

Lastly, the presence of peep shows and live sex shows was very common back then, especially in Times Square.
There were just so many.
Those days are long gone.
Now you have "The Lion King", "Ripley's", "Dave and Busters", "BB Kings", and "Madame Toussads".
The edge is gone on 42nd St.
I miss the old days.
I knew the risks and went in prepared.
It's now a "family friendly fun land", and TBH, not so much fun anymore...

 

[user 139760]

There was considerably more violent crime than now, but it was mostly in certain areas. and everyone knew of these areas.
Yes, there were random muggings in nice areas, but you would NEVER see a "flash mob" robbery at a 5th avenue luxury store.
So crime was more prevalent back then, but much less brazen.
There was a certain fear among criminals back then about venturing into certain areas. That fear now seems to be gone, or at least waning.

Personally, I can tell you there is an ENORMOUS difference as far as "ladies of the evening" go.
On a Saturday night on 11th Ave on the west side, or Park Ave on the east side, there would be hundreds upon hundreds of girls working.
And when I say girls, yes, I mean many (at least 50%) of them were teens. And their pimps were in full view.
The typical fee was 100/hr if you went to a hotel, and the hotels ranges from $20 to $30.
This eventually came to a halt once Rudy was elected mayor.
And that was when I switched from streetwalkers to escort agencies.
So for people who like to associate Rudy with what they feel are negative things, I would ask that you consider he ALONE was responsible for completely dismantling the Manhattan streetwalker scene and the parasitic pimps who abused and exploited these girls.
Hypocritical of me to say this, given that I participated as a customer?
Perhaps.
But I did care about and show concern to the regulars I had back then. They seemed not to care much about my concerns for them.

Lastly, the presence of peep shows and live sex shows was very common back then, especially in Times Square.
There were just so many.
Those days are long gone.
Now you have "The Lion King", "Ripley's", "Dave and Busters", "BB Kings", and "Madame Toussads".
The edge is gone on 42nd St.
I miss the old days.
I knew the risks and went in prepared.
It's now a "family friendly fun land", and TBH, not so much fun anymore...

That's a lot like Montreal now, tbh. I live in one of those"known" areas. You don't see cops iften and they don't stick around when you do past sundown.

 

[isthatso]

Travis Bickle was closer in every way to an incel than Arthur Flek, but the film is a classic, and almost 50 years old.

Might be my fave movie

 

[isthatso]

I want to see the movie " the joker". Sounds great.

 

[Trevor]

*raises hand* me! me!