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Hey guys,

I’ve been struggling with this issue for awhile and every time I try to start a thread about it, I feel so exposed that I delete it :(

But a friend suggested I try to put it up here as having others share their experiences might help.

Basically, deep down, I have zero self esteem or self worth. Growing up, I was bullied a lot by family and school/college mates. And while I have lovely parents, their only fault was that they made it seem like they were embarrassed of me. I was always too talkative, too opinionated, too loud, too silly. I was also on steroid medication for 12 years which made me chubby (and has messed up my metabolism for life), and the fact that I was dark, made me the target for all kinds of insults in my society.

The logical aspect of my mind knows to not believe what they had said, but I think my self esteem was gone at such a young age, that I don’t know how to find it or form one now.

For awhile, I felt ok. I was working out and that improved my physical appearance and moods, but this last year, I’ve put on quite a bit of weight and I’m feeling horribly depressed again. Sometimes, I have trouble getting out of the house because I think I’m just too ugly.

So anyway, as a way to survive in the real world given this low self esteem problem, I think I developed an alter ego of sorts. It helped in the beginning, I was confident, assertive, able to deal with insults without bursting into tears.

But over the years, I’ve just grown more and more insecure, and the worse I feel about myself, the worse my alter ego becomes. I feel like I’ve become a very disagreeable person now. I’m argumentative, patronizing, sometimes I exaggerate to try and impress others.

And I have this need to always try and become someone the other person would like, as opposed to just being myself. Because ultimately, “myself” is just not good enough and I am so terrified of having everyone I like, dislike me (which ironically is happening already).

None of this is me and I feel extremely guilty and plain awful the minute I’m alone. I don’t want to offend anyone, that’s the last thing I want to do. But for some reason, everything that comes out of my mouth while in the company of others, is the opposite of what I really want to say or really feel inside.

I’ve been trying to be more conscious of how I behave around people so as to bridge the inner self and outer, but it seems like the minute I meet someone, I automatically turn into a different person.

I hope this makes sense. I’m trying to post this without deleting it because I feel such anxiety over this whole thing right now.

So if you guys have similar experiences or have any advice for me, I’d be grateful :)

Thanks
 
I know this is easier said than done, but you have to love you. If no one else in this entire world will ever accept you, at least know that you have that right. I'm sure you're a lovely person, and if I knew you a tad better, I could really state my opinions. I really believe though, that nothing can be worse, and no one can do or say anything as hurtful as what we do to ourselves.
 
Hi V, I'm glad you managed to post this out. *hugs*

I think I know you basically well enough to say that you're a lovely person. I'm not sure what exactly causes one to behave differently each time they meet someone, but I think, because you don't feel comfortable with being yourself with others because you feel like you're not good enough, automatically makes you want to be someone likable to them. But this is not working out I think because it's not you, babe.

Honestly? Just be you, and you'll see how many people might actually like you. I know you the way you are.. and I think you're a beautiful person with a great personality, and I'm sure a few of us here who knows you for some time already would think the same. This may not be so easy now since your other personality comes on sort of automatically.

Like you said and which I think is a good start, is to be more aware of how you react to other people. Go with what you feel like doing or saying rather than what you think you should do or say. Keep trying and I'll keep hoping that you will feel better about yourself more and more each day.

Stay strong and awesome, and stay you. :) *hugs*
 
Sweets, your level of awareness and strength is commendable. Do not feel that you are alone with self-esteem issues and battling personalities. People do have a variety of them and it is common for people to have two strong (main) personalities. I would like to give you advice but it has been quite some time since I was in a social setting, I would get easily drained from the differences in the those that I met. I believe it is the perfectionist side that tries to save face and with me I try to be the peacekeeper as well. You have an active mind and are intelligent, don't let others take your energy. Learning about your main personalities may aid in positive perspective

reflection, health checks are good :)



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Veruca, I think I know what you mean, although I've not experienced your life, your issues.

As you know I had a recent shift in my thinking and outlook, and in many ways I have also tried to be an alter-ego, take parts of a character to be my own. I think this is very understandable and probably not uncommon. I have a different personality when at work to home, even with different sets of people, none of which may be the true me.

I was actually thinking about this a little yesterday, what is our core personality, the real us?

I don't know if I could ever be 100% 'me' with others, but I know who I am and I draw my strength from that.

I don't know if that helps, I guess you need to define who you really are, at first with yourself and then when dealing with the rest of the world. Your alter-ego seems to be countering your current negative thoughts, acting more defensive, maybe even being more disagreeable to push people away whilst you try and work out your feelings.

To echo others thoughts here, I have got to know you without prior judgement, and I found a wonderful person, kind, caring and helpful. You helped and supported me, someone you barely met, that's your true character, your core. I'm proud to know you and have you as a friend, I'll let anyone know that.

Please take that thought and I hope it counters some of the negativity you've had in the past and helps you find who you want to be, the true you that can stand proud and be yourself.

Hugs
 
Veruca said:
Hey guys,

I’ve been struggling with this issue for awhile and every time I try to start a thread about it, I feel so exposed that I delete it :(

Thanks for exposing yourself to us, Veruca! :D

Sorry, can't resist cracking a rude joke, at any opportunity. :club:

Veruca said:
Basically, deep down, I have zero self esteem or self worth.

Same here. It's just not in me, it's not who I am. I can receive compliments, flirts, praise etc all day every day and it still wont sink in. I am able to feel proud of things I have done but no amount of cognitive therapy or love will change the way I feel about myself.

I wasn't massively picked on as a kid, no more than the next person really but I don't know if that played some major role in my complexes or not. I guess if anything like that has been brought into your life, it can also be taken out, reversed if you like. I however feel I was simply born a self-loather; I inherited my dad's stupid laugh, his bad hair, his terrible temper and my mother's contempt for it all.

So how do I deal with it? Express it. Rage about it. Rant about it. Be a god damn miserable ************ about it until it's so ridiculous it's hilarious. Once it becomes funny, others who can relate to it will see the funny side of it too. You may not ever learn to truly love yourself, but you can at least learn to laugh at it. Love a bit of self-depreciating humour, me.

Veruca said:
For awhile, I felt ok. I was working out and that improved my physical appearance and moods, but this last year, I’ve put on quite a bit of weight and I’m feeling horribly depressed again. Sometimes, I have trouble getting out of the house because I think I’m just too ugly.

Well, you know what makes you feel better. I have only seen your face (which is beautiful, btw!) so can't really say about the rest of you and I often wonder if people who have to be "in shape" or work out to feel good about themselves are healthy or not, psychologically, but hey we all like to look good or think we do or have other people think we look good. A healthy body can make a healthy mind, if it works for you then great! But just know there are thousands, millions of people out there who will appreciate YOU and your body however little you work out, however much you weigh. Lots of guys these days (myself included) prefer a bit of "meat" on a girl and pay no attention to the vapid whoreyness displayed in the media or society.

What's that quote... something about not being afraid to show your true self, because you never know who is looking for the you you're hiding? This is what you need to do. Just stop acting and be yourself, even if it is this rude alter-ego, even if it isn't the perfect person you want to be, just be yourself and let people see you. People, and someone special, will see YOU and love you for it. No one else matters.

I hate most pop music and find it quite ironic that someone as sexually desired as Christina Aguilera sings a song like this, but for some reason I like it, and think it's appropriate here:

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Don't be afraid, you are so loveable.
 
It's OK to be selfish sometimes.

Focus on you for a while.

The world can go **** itself.
 
Thanks for your encouragement and support guys, made me feel loads better!

VanillaCreme, BJD – I’m hearing you guys. Self love. I’ve been trying to engage in activities that make me feel good, and perhaps with time, doing the things I enjoy, getting better at them will make me like myself a little more.

And definitely must stop beating myself up about prioritizing my personal needs. Should let my conscience be the guide rather than the likes and dislikes of others. This might take some work, but I’ll keep trying :)

Lady F – Thank you girl *hugs* Okay, next time I’m with someone, I’ll try to center myself and make a conscious decision to bring down the wall a bit at least. Maybe even pause a minute before replying so I’m not doing it in auto mode.

ucxb – Thank you dear *hugs* You brought up a good point. My silliness and sense of humour is part of who I am, but insecurities have led them to turn into ugly patronizing versions, and it would be wrong to completely be the opposite as well. I guess I’ll do what Lady F suggested as you have, be more aware.

Edward – Yes, this is something I ponder all the time, Who am I really? Maybe its not about figuring it all out an once, Like right now, I’m discovering one by one things I enjoy doing, and maybe with time they will all collectively define who I am. And your experience did help me feel less anxious about having the self discovery journey later. Maybe the wisdom of age will help with clarity. And thanks for believing in me! *hugs*

Eve (GOO) : I had to google “moxie”, but thank you!!! :D

Painter – Lol, your jokes only make me laugh, they never offend me! Indeed, I’ve dealt with it through self depreciating humour, only at some point people started using it all against me and I couldn’t handle that. But I reckon if I loved myself enough, then it wouldn’t upset me as much. And you know something, you mentioned raging about it, I’m doing it with kickboxing now and it actually does feel good!

I listened to the song first thing this morning btw and it made me feel better. Thank you! :D

Thank you for your kind words everyone. I realized today that my whole life, I’ve been surrounded by negative people, and that’s probably one of the reasons why my alter ego continues to take over. I will try to remind myself that there are people like yourselves who can accept me as I am. May need to be a bit more tough when handling those who don’t but then I shouldn’t have such people in my circle anyway.

Hugs to all of you!!
 
Never seen that MV. ...Awwww, nobody sat next to that gothic looking dude.

It's not really her singing about sexual desirability. This song is about acceptance. There's trannies, gays, people with braces, people with interesting hair, and well I dunno what that girl's deal is who's burning the stuff (oh, second watching, she's burning pictures of "beautiful" white women). They all need to feel worth it themselves, and they need someone to tell them they're worth it.

Also, this alter ego isn't false, and the rest of you is "true." This alter ego came from your personality. So own both of these, don't be ashamed of one or the other, use them both. I have a split personality too, I use one for public speaking, and one when I want to do research.
 
bulmabriefs144 said:
Never seen that MV. ...Awwww, nobody sat next to that gothic looking dude.

It's not really her singing about sexual desirability. This song is about acceptance. There's trannies, gays, people with braces, people with interesting hair, and well I dunno what that girl's deal is who's burning the stuff (oh, second watching, she's burning pictures of "beautiful" white women). They all need to feel worth it themselves, and they need someone to tell them they're worth it.

I know right! Gothic guy is cool, why wouldn't you sit next to him??

Indeed, its all about seeing how everyone is beautiful in their own way, and not as a stereotype. Also, what I thought was a good point, which is essentially what a lot of members here have mentioned; if you can't see what's beautiful about you, then how can you expect anyone else to?
 
Veruca said:
I realized today that my whole life, I’ve been surrounded by negative people, and that’s probably one of the reasons why my alter ego continues to take over.

And this is also probably why you feel so lowly of yourself. Also, a lot of people in life are a lot more selfish than they realise, sometimes taking a second to stop and appreciate that person who sits in that corner of the office or anyone you know or don't know can make a difference. But I guess a lot of people are too busy or distracted to do enough of this.

*hugs*

You need to move! :p

Veruca said:
if you can't see what's beautiful about you, then how can you expect anyone else to?

Agreed!

I also want to add, that I may not know all the **** that you may have gone through in your life but from reading your original post in this thread, I must say that you did a great job dealing with all that and still able to be such an awesome person at heart who's always around to cheer others up. I'm always inspired by people like you. :)

I'm going to quote you in my sig - my inspiration! ;)
 
ladyforsaken said:
sometimes taking a second to stop and appreciate that person who sits in that corner of the office or anyone you know or don't know can make a difference. But I guess a lot of people are too busy or distracted to do enough of this.

Absolutely, this is something I should remember to do myself.

Rosebolt asked me to watch Nick Vujicic's video (thanks again RB), and in that vid, Nick talks about how on this one particular day, he had been bullied so much that all it was going to take to push him over the edge would be one more insult. But then this girl had called out to him and said "Looking good there Nick" or something, and that one comment had just saved him. :)

ladyforsaken said:
I also want to add, that I may not know all the **** that you may have gone through in your life but from reading your original post in this thread, I must say that you did a great job dealing with all that and still able to be such an awesome person at heart who's always around to cheer others up. I'm always inspired by people like you. :)

I'm going to quote you in my sig - my inspiration! ;)

OMGGG you are so sweeett!! HUGS

Seriously though, I'm super touched, thanks Lady.
 
Yeah! Nick has always been an inspiration to me since my teenager days. He's amazing.

*hugs* Have a good week ahead, and keep ya chin up babe! :)
 
Veruca said:
Thank you for your kind words everyone. I realized today that my whole life, I’ve been surrounded by negative people, and that’s probably one of the reasons why my alter ego continues to take over. I will try to remind myself that there are people like yourselves who can accept me as I am. May need to be a bit more tough when handling those who don’t but then I shouldn’t have such people in my circle anyway.

Hugs to all of you!!

Was going to write to you about this. You seem to have figured it out. Surround yourself with positive, supporting people, this way you don't have to get your tough girl act around strangers, if they do hurt you, you would always have your friends to comfort you and make it better.
 
Veruca brave girl *hugs* :)

I do have low self esteem issues but i am getting over them. You are aware of yourself that is really commendable :) Respect yourself Veruca and others will respect you. No one is perfect in this world. I saw your picture in "faces" thread and let me tell you that you are pretty attractive. I am not saying this to make you feel better, i really mean it :) Just be yourself, dont change yourself to please others. Isn't it good that you are not dual faced?
Start loving yourself girl, things will get better :)
 
ladyforsaken said:
Yeahhhhhhhhh girl power!!

Ehem. Okay I don't know why I just said that! :p

That somehow reminds me of.... :D
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Haha! Powerpuff girls. I don't know which is which but can I be the middle one? Veruca can be the green and Broken can be the blue!

This is our dual personalities! :D
 
Why do I have to be the green? Buttercup is mean! Are you trying to tell me something!! lolll But yeah Broken can be Bubbles she's adorable and Lady you're definitely the leader hahaha! All Hail Blossom! (no its not disturbing that I know all their names :D)

And Perfanoff can be Mojo Jojo mwahaha


BrokenInside said:
Veruca brave girl *hugs* :)

I do have low self esteem issues but i am getting over them. You are aware of yourself that is really commendable :) Respect yourself Veruca and others will respect you. No one is perfect in this world. I saw your picture in "faces" thread and let me tell you that you are pretty attractive. I am not saying this to make you feel better, i really mean it :) Just be yourself, dont change yourself to please others. Isn't it good that you are not dual faced?
Start loving yourself girl, things will get better :)

Thanks girl. Yeah, I'm trying really hard everyday to be a little more like myself and maybe with time I can do it without having to consciously remind myself to :) *hugs*
 

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