Fasting... anyone here ever tried it. and other stuffs.....

[Lonelytimegirl]

Very little of what you say here is accurate. As for you article you linked, the newest source is from 2005, which the majority of the sources well older than that. And the site isn't exactly all that trustworthy. Not to mention the guy who that article was based from died is 1948 and had a lot of controversy with his ideas.
I'll stick with being a vegan, thanks, and my doctor is completely okay with that and I get all the vitamins I need.

Your opinion, which you are of course, entitled to, but the article is not false. Plants do contain many anti-nutrients as part of their 'protection against being eaten' processes and this is the reason why our ancestors used to ferment and sprout plant foods, to make them easier to digest and have less anti nutrients.


'Antinutrients are found in their highest concentrations in grains, beans, legumes and nuts, but can also be found in leaves, roots and fruits of certain varieties of plants. The major antinutrients found in plant-based foods are phytates, tannins, lectins, oxalates, etc. Antinutrients in vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts are a concern only when a person’s diet is composed exclusively of uncooked plant foods. Oxalate, for instance, prevents calcium from being absorbed in the body by binding with it [13]. Raw spinach, kale, broccoli and soybeans usually contain oxalates [14]. When consuming excessive tannins, which are associated with tea, wine, some fruit, and chocolate, enzymes responsible for protein absorption may be inactivated. Phytates are present in grains, nuts and seeds, while peppers, eggplants, and tomatoes contain lectins. Phytates consumption may lead a lower mineral absorption and lectins are able to cause various reactions to the body [15]. Saponins, on the other hand, have been linked to red blood cells damaging, enzyme inhibition and thyroid function intervention [16]'....
https://openbiotechnologyjournal.com/VOLUME/13/PAGE/68/FULLTEXT/
'Vegan diets are often praised for their health benefits. However, there are many nutrients that are only found in animal products. Vegans should carefully observe the levels of intake for the nutrients listed below in order to maintain good health. Vegans with autoimmune, gut or chronic inflammatory issues need to stay far away from a vegan diet even if they supplement with these 20 nutrients'..
https://selfhack.com/blog/16-nutrients-vegans-arent-getting/
So really the plant foods aren't the healthiest foods, like we are led to believe.....

 

[Azariah]

Is it working?

it's too early to tell lol

 

[Trevor]

I did once for religious purposes and it sucked.

 

[charlotte craig]

Im fasting mainly for two reasons: to save money and to lose weight.

what i eat for breakfast is literally bread or pandesal with butter and a sip of black coffee. for lunch at the mall i no longer buy one choice or two choice, for example, instead of getting chicken cutlet with rice and a side of macaroni i just get the chicken cutlet itself. it's way more cheaper than to get a whole meal. i also stop drinking soda just fruit juice and water.
for dinner i felt like i deserved one ice cream with a cone.

on an unrelated note im also giving NoFap a chance and see if i can get benefits of semen retention. i deleted all my **** on my macbook.

also ive been exercising mainly focusing on calisthenics and breakdancing. and sometimes to pass the time i practice freestyle rapping but im terrible at it rn but ill keep trying no matter how horrible i sound. ayy no one is listening anyay.

Not a good idea. good idea is to do it a few days a week and eat normally the others. or cut out snacks. or eat more protein and a lot less carbs, refined and processexd.

 

[charlotte craig]

oxalates can cause fibromyalgia with some who are allergic to them

 

[okidoke]

Wow, lots of information and misinformation in this thread. I’m not going to debate anything, but I’ll just say this about myself - I grow and eat quite a few of my own vegetables, I don’t really eat much processed food anymore, I do eat some meat, I exercise very regularly and I fast for full day about every ten days or so to let the body have a break from processing food and maintain good gut health. I don’t over indulge in anything that I eat or drink, but I don’t punish myself by avoiding some ice cream or cake if I want it. I don’t do anything by extremes. Moderation is the key. I gradually lost fat and gained muscle. I feel very fit and physically healthy and my mind is better for it. I should get a better bed as my sleep is probably the only thing I could improve on, but after spending $5000+ on a new one a couple years ago for my wife and me and having been separated pretty much for that long and sleeping in my own room since then, I haven’t been able to afford one for myself. But, I sleep in as much as I want so there is that.

 

[charlotte craig]

You may find this interesting - a UK DOCTOR who got fibromyalgia and treated it herself naturally with diet.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2174474/The-GP-gave-fruit-veg-cure-aches-pains.html
I myself am proof and know others who are where we have been told we had fibromyalgia and it turned out to be estrogen deficiency instead - virtually same symptoms.

 

[user 139760]

For a rather good set of years, I only ate once a day. It's probably impacted me quite negatively, even though I don't have any outright symptoms of it so far. But as I get older, that'll probably change. I've tried in recent months to change it somewhat, eat more regularly, smaller portions, with mitigated results. By this point, my body got used to going full speed ahead with little intake, but that's bound to change sooner or later. So I try to intake more greens, more protein and less carbs than I used to, at least. I wouldn't call it fasting, though I'd joke with some muslim friends at my previous job that I did Ramahdan more often than they did
I tend to get colder and more tired in the mornings when I finish work. That's probably a direct consequence.

 

[Unsigned]

Yes I've done it.
4 days is the longest I've gone without any food (just water).
Haven't done it since the 90s though.

 

[charlotte craig]

Your opinion, which you are of course, entitled to, but the article is not false. Plants do contain many anti-nutrients as part of their 'protection against being eaten' processes and this is the reason why our ancestors used to ferment and sprout plant foods, to make them easier to digest and have less anti nutrients.


'Antinutrients are found in their highest concentrations in grains, beans, legumes and nuts, but can also be found in leaves, roots and fruits of certain varieties of plants. The major antinutrients found in plant-based foods are phytates, tannins, lectins, oxalates, etc. Antinutrients in vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts are a concern only when a person’s diet is composed exclusively of uncooked plant foods. Oxalate, for instance, prevents calcium from being absorbed in the body by binding with it [13]. Raw spinach, kale, broccoli and soybeans usually contain oxalates [14]. When consuming excessive tannins, which are associated with tea, wine, some fruit, and chocolate, enzymes responsible for protein absorption may be inactivated. Phytates are present in grains, nuts and seeds, while peppers, eggplants, and tomatoes contain lectins. Phytates consumption may lead a lower mineral absorption and lectins are able to cause various reactions to the body [15]. Saponins, on the other hand, have been linked to red blood cells damaging, enzyme inhibition and thyroid function intervention [16]'....
https://openbiotechnologyjournal.com/VOLUME/13/PAGE/68/FULLTEXT/
'Vegan diets are often praised for their health benefits. However, there are many nutrients that are only found in animal products. Vegans should carefully observe the levels of intake for the nutrients listed below in order to maintain good health. Vegans with autoimmune, gut or chronic inflammatory issues need to stay far away from a vegan diet even if they supplement with these 20 nutrients'..
https://selfhack.com/blog/16-nutrients-vegans-arent-getting/
So really the plant foods aren't the healthiest foods, like we are led to believe.....

I know for a fact one statement in this is totally wrong. A doctor in the UK got very ill and it turned out it was because she ate oxalates. Cooked veg. Not raw. She had a balanced diet including meat etc. When she cut out the oxalates she became totally well. She then took this to the next level and did this with patients who had the same symptoms and they got better too. If they stick to the diet.