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Also bullies ain't always evil nor stupid. I have been bullied as far back I can remember and that caused me to become one myself. How? I thought everyone were after me so I took eveything as an attack and counter-attacked. I changed in third grade or so. Sadly, no one accepted it and continued to treat me as a bully.
 
Lonely Anon said:
Also bullies ain't always evil nor stupid. I have been bullied as far back I can remember and that caused me to become one myself.

How is hurting innocents ever justified? How is it ever a genuinely intelligent thing to do? An abuser might have been abused himself, but that doesn't make his actions any more justified. Its a lot like stabbing kitties without cause; sure the person might have been scratched by a cat once, but his actions are still sadistic and wrong.

I'm glad that you've changed, but point remains: bullying is evil and stupid.

Lonely Anon said:
How? I thought everyone were after me so I took eveything as an attack and counter-attacked.

Being defensive isn't bullying. You were trying to protect yourself. On the other hand, people who attack others with the sole intent of hurting them /are/ bullies.
 
Yes, those who hurt people for the sake of hurting them are evil.
Sadly, the world is full of sadistic *******s like that.
 
Lonely Anon said:
6am... Looks like this will be another sleepless night.

Sleep is for the weak.

There is melatonin if you want to try to sleep; its natural and will allow you to regulate your sleepiness better. I don't think that sleep cycles by themselves are related to depression.
 
Each time I stop doing stuff and actually tries to sleep I just start to think about how ****** my life is. Think I tried that drug, it didn't help at all.
 
Lonely Anon said:
Each time I stop doing stuff and actually tries to sleep I just start to think about how ****** my life is. Think I tried that drug, it didn't help at all.

Part of the thing is to try not to obsess over it - as you already said, by the time you can get into college, things will be tons better. The level of maturity and awareness will all be higher, and beating down on yourself now won't actually help you in any way. Its logically silly to do so.

Try to find a solution that'll let you get into college and skip the school system where you can avoid the majority of people who neither understand nor appreciate you for who you are. Appreciate that you can sometimes 'dumb down' and wear a mask to fit among others, but neither does it need to be the whole of your soul. And indeed, appreciate that it is indeed lonely to be special - including being more intelligent than the norm - but it is also the special among us that bring the greatest things in life. It is an odd tragedy of sorts, but also, a beauty. In fiction, for every hero, there are great trials before the triumph, but those ultimately only temper him for the time he will triumph; I have found the same of life.

If I am to be the blade, then life has tempered me in its flames.

Meditate on that. Celebrate yourself for a little time. There's no reason why one shouldn't, especially when there's truth to it.
 
IgnoredOne said:
Lonely Anon said:
Each time I stop doing stuff and actually tries to sleep I just start to think about how ****** my life is. Think I tried that drug, it didn't help at all.

Part of the thing is to try not to obsess over it - as you already said, by the time you can get into college, things will be tons better. The level of maturity and awareness will all be higher, and beating down on yourself now won't actually help you in any way. Its logically silly to do so.

Try to find a solution that'll let you get into college and skip the school system where you can avoid the majority of people who neither understand nor appreciate you for who you are. Appreciate that you can sometimes 'dumb down' and wear a mask to fit among others, but neither does it need to be the whole of your soul. And indeed, appreciate that it is indeed lonely to be special - including being more intelligent than the norm - but it is also the special among us that bring the greatest things in life. It is an odd tragedy of sorts, but also, a beauty. In fiction, for every hero, there are great trials before the triumph, but those ultimately only temper him for the time he will triumph; I have found the same of life.

If I am to be the blade, then life has tempered me in its flames.

Meditate on that. Celebrate yourself for a little time. There's no reason why one shouldn't, especially when there's truth to it.

This is how I try to sleep:
1. put away iPhone/PC.
2. Close my eyes.
Optional 3a. Think about what tommorow will bring.
Optional 3b. Think I should think about something positive to fall asleep with a smile.
4a. Fail to think of anything positive.
4b. Start to think how I most likely won't get an education.
5a. Get angry and/or sad because the society won't accept me.
5b. Get sad because my childhood is ruined.
5c. Get scared because I know I will most likely commit suicide unless I get an education.
5d. Get scared because I am afraid I will never trust a human being again.
6. Tries to fight my tears.
7. Realizes I won't manage to sleep and go back to my iPhone/PC to forget about my terrible life.
 
Perhaps the solution would be to do something that you think will help you get an education now - I'm not sure what applies in Norway, but something that will be of definite help to you in the future. When you've finished with a chapter or some other milestone, you can definitively count that as an achievement and know that you're getting closer.
 
I am learning java, which I hope will be my work in the future.

My problem is that anything connected to school/kids (i.e. Studying) stress me to the point where I feel like I no longer have control over my actions (i.e. Acting like a four year old). I usually won't recover completely untill the next day.
 
Lonely Anon said:
I am learning java, which I hope will be my work in the future.

My problem is that anything connected to school/kids (i.e. Studying) stress me to the point where I feel like I no longer have control over my actions (i.e. Acting like a four year old). I usually won't recover completely untill the next day.

You might not need to deal with any of that if you get good at programming, heh. But do get good at it, if you are, and take comfort in that when dealing with stressful things.

Do you know Jeff Vogel?
 
An education is requiered for more than just work. If I ever want to get 'decent' friends I need one. 'Decent' people have conversations that require a decent amount of knowledge; without knowledge, I will be another 'normal' guy in their eyes.

8am. Have had no sleep tonight. Atleast I get to know how being a zombie feels like.

Edit: No, I have never even heard Jeff Vogel.
 
Lonely Anon said:
An education is requiered for more than just work. If I ever want to get 'decent' friends I need one. 'Decent' people have conversations that require a decent amount of knowledge; without knowledge, I will be another 'normal' guy in their eyes.

8am. Have had no sleep tonight. Atleast I get to know how being a zombie feels like.

Edit: No, I have never even heard Jeff Vogel.
guess ive yet 2 meet any "decent" ppl
most ppl i meet tlk about either sex/substances/food/media

 
Chasm said:
Lonely Anon said:
An education is requiered for more than just work. If I ever want to get 'decent' friends I need one. 'Decent' people have conversations that require a decent amount of knowledge; without knowledge, I will be another 'normal' guy in their eyes.

8am. Have had no sleep tonight. Atleast I get to know how being a zombie feels like.

Edit: No, I have never even heard Jeff Vogel.
guess ive yet 2 meet any "decent" ppl
most ppl i meet tlk about either sex/substances/food/media

With 'decent' I mean one who can hold an interesting conversetion with me (e.g. rocket science). I am sorry if you misunderstood.
 
Lonely Anon said:
With 'decent' I mean one who can hold an interesting conversetion with me (e.g. rocket science). I am sorry if you misunderstood.

I forgot to recommend one of my regular forums to you - I think you might like this place.

http://www.physicsforums.com/

There is actually a thread dedicated to homeschooling, and a number of books recommended by MIT professors, etc, for students who just want to learn all of the major facets of science and education on their own. You might also be able to consult them(they are from all over the world) on what they might recommend for your situation.

And yes, I know exactly what you mean. Its rare to find people these days who actually seem to be knowledgeable - even the curiousity to learn seems to be extremely limited. Honestly, I find it disgusting because intellect is what defines humanity in my opinion; the reason why we have complicated tools, electrical systems and hell, why we can talk on a computer. And this rare gift is instead abused and denigrated by most of us...isn't that sad?
 
I will look into that forum for sure! Amazing how much better I feel when I can talk with some who understands me! I had my doubts when signing up, but does not regret it one bit!

Also, in my opinion, university is in most cases required to be 'decent'.
 
If you go into a scientific field at Uni, you'll probably meet people there more into your interests and that you feel more at home with.

I went into Chemistry, and I remember being surprised at how much more mature and similar to me the other students seemed to be. With the odd exception of course! :p
 

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