Revengineer
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I have one. My best friend that I've known for... 7 years now? We live in different cities now though and we both too busy to visit each other these days... sigh.
Solitary man said:VanillaCreme said:Yes, I've had many real friends. It's amazing what can happen when you stop assuming the worst out of everyone.
What if your powers of perception are finely honed with life experience and you are just a lot more capable of seeing through everyone's facade?
Sigma said:Yup, then he died.
Solitary man said:What if your powers of perception are finely honed with life experience and you are just a lot more capable of seeing through everyone's facade?
MTrip said:Solitary man said:What if your powers of perception are finely honed with life experience and you are just a lot more capable of seeing through everyone's facade?
+1 on that. Since real friends are rare gems to find, frankly I find Vanilla's reply puzzling & rather naive. Assuming the worst of other people is not the most pleasant attitude to have, but in my experience I've rarely been proven wrong.
VanillaCreme said:I don't expect the worst out of people, even with all the crap I've been through. I think it's a terrible way to be and a horrible way to live. Because really, the only person who's so affected by all the miserable behavior that someone who always assumes the worst out of people, is themselves. I don't plan to make myself miserable because of other people.
Sure, real, true friends are rare gems, no argument there. But they do exist. Believe it or not, not everyone has a facade. Not everyone has hidden motives. Not everyone is out to get you.
VanillaCreme said:MTrip said:Solitary man said:What if your powers of perception are finely honed with life experience and you are just a lot more capable of seeing through everyone's facade?
+1 on that. Since real friends are rare gems to find, frankly I find Vanilla's reply puzzling & rather naive. Assuming the worst of other people is not the most pleasant attitude to have, but in my experience I've rarely been proven wrong.
I don't expect the worst out of people, even with all the crap I've been through. I think it's a terrible way to be and a horrible way to live. Because really, the only person who's so affected by all the miserable behavior that someone who always assumes the worst out of people, is themselves. I don't plan to make myself miserable because of other people.
Sure, real, true friends are rare gems, no argument there. But they do exist. Believe it or not, not everyone has a facade. Not everyone has hidden motives. Not everyone is out to get you.
VanillaCreme said:I don't expect the worst out of people, even with all the crap I've been through. I think it's a terrible way to be and a horrible way to live. Because really, the only person who's so affected by all the miserable behavior that someone who always assumes the worst out of people, is themselves. I don't plan to make myself miserable because of other people.
Sure, real, true friends are rare gems, no argument there. But they do exist. Believe it or not, not everyone has a facade. Not everyone has hidden motives. Not everyone is out to get you.
Locke said:VanillaCreme said:I don't expect the worst out of people, even with all the crap I've been through. I think it's a terrible way to be and a horrible way to live. Because really, the only person who's so affected by all the miserable behavior that someone who always assumes the worst out of people, is themselves. I don't plan to make myself miserable because of other people.
Sure, real, true friends are rare gems, no argument there. But they do exist. Believe it or not, not everyone has a facade. Not everyone has hidden motives. Not everyone is out to get you.
I agree with this. Assuming the worst of everyone makes it harder to find good people.
I always try to find the best in others, even people who I don't like. For me it's about balance: I have social anxiety, so I always assume people will treat me badly or judge me unfairly. Some of them do treat me like that, but I've discovered that most don't.
Felix said:I also agree... Even though I have a tendency of assuming everyone's an idiot until proven otherwise, I know this doesn't help me build relationships so I'm working on it...
Everyone has a facade... But can you blame them, really? It's just the way things are, I'm not 100% comfortable with that but I can't blame others for my own "lack of mask".
Locke said:Felix said:I also agree... Even though I have a tendency of assuming everyone's an idiot until proven otherwise, I know this doesn't help me build relationships so I'm working on it...
Everyone has a facade... But can you blame them, really? It's just the way things are, I'm not 100% comfortable with that but I can't blame others for my own "lack of mask".
I don't think everyone has a facade. Those who do probably just want to protect themselves. The only reason I sometimes have a 'facade' in public is because I get so anxious around people. Sometimes I feel like I have to pretend that everything is okay, even if I don't feel it. That's not who I want to be though, so I make an effort to see the best in people.
I have a friend who I trust completely and will talk about anything with. I'm really grateful I found someone like that, I didn't think it was possible until recently.
Locke said:Felix said:I also agree... Even though I have a tendency of assuming everyone's an idiot until proven otherwise, I know this doesn't help me build relationships so I'm working on it...
Everyone has a facade... But can you blame them, really? It's just the way things are, I'm not 100% comfortable with that but I can't blame others for my own "lack of mask".
I don't think everyone has a facade. Those who do probably just want to protect themselves. The only reason I sometimes have a 'facade' in public is because I get so anxious around people. Sometimes I feel like I have to pretend that everything is okay, even if I don't feel it. That's not who I want to be though, so I make an effort to see the best in people.
I have a friend who I trust completely and will talk about anything with. I'm really grateful I found someone like that, I didn't think it was possible until recently.
Felix said:You and I say facade, but I don't think we are refering to the same thing. Is not lying or deceiving (even though it could be). Is just the public profile people use to comunicate with strangers, people in general who are not close to them. A set of social skills to succeed in comunication with others and to protect oneself, because everyone has something to protect, even perfectly well-ajusted extroverts. If you see a neighbour in the elevator you ask him about the weather, his new dog, how his injured leg is doing... that kind of thing. You don't talk about your sexual fetishes, the shape of your **** or how you wish he would move out...
Some people are more open than others, people like big celebrities can even get recognized for their miseries, but in general everyone keeps something from the public. When you study character development for writing, you see characters have a public life, a private life and a secret life.
So, to be more precise, I lack development in my abilities to connect with others in public in the adult world. I always wanted to be totally honest and I was too self centered to see and learn what other people were doing, how they bonded. Too much time jerking off to my imagination has left me with a nice talent for art but my social skills are underdeveloped. My inner self is rich, my connection to others is poor.
What I mean when I say I'm not totally ok with this mask thing is that I don't like having to have it. To me it's a burden. But I want to fit into society. And I don't have the power to change it... So... I'm trying to give in to the abstract subconcious rules of human relations. But it's hard for me to do that. I think it's a pride thing.
I didn't want to write this much... But hey... If you want to be more or less understood you have to be detaliled. If you want to be understood completly, you have to be the person.
It's nice to know there are other who struggle with the whole mask thing though. I've asked myself "warum fassade?" many times... It's like questioning air, it's always going to be there. So take a deep breath, like everyone else...
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