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I have had a lot of depression problems in my life, but over the past few months I've actually achieved a lot of progress in feeling better about myself. I'm able to recognize that I have good friends who care about me and that I'm a pretty likable person, and I actually have some self-esteem now that I didn't have before.

But I'm pretty inexperienced with dating. Where is a good place to meet girls? And what's an appropriate way of approaching them? I'm really kind of embarrassed about asking my friends for advice, especially because a while ago a couple of them tried to set me up with a friend of theirs and I kind of dragged my heels a lot and ended up screwing it up...

So, any help is appreciated.
 
Hey buddy, welcome to the forum!

If you are an inexperienced young man, TEN simple but tedious steps can be followed.

1) Embark on a NEUROTIC hygiene routine. Good teeth, NO acne, no dandruff, shave head if you're balding. NEVER FORGET deodorant.
2) Hit the gym for at LEAST six months before making approaches. If you are overweight, cut, if you are skinny, bulk and cut. There are four standard exercises, the benchpress, deadlift, squats, and military press.
3) While you are hitting the gym, buy some material on the art of seduction. They usually have some good techniques. Alot of the techniques are BS, but the lifestyle stuff is spot on. It's also good for learning how women think.
4) When you are in shape, get a female friend to take you shopping, and buy an outfit for clubbing aka sarging. A fitting pair of jeans, nice dress shoes, and some fitting loud dress shirts should work.
5) Get the right haircut and shave. If you have heavy beard, use that to your advantage and do a 3-day beard. If you have the right face, do a buzzed head like the army guys do.
6) Learn how to peacock, which some call displaying your "******". Go the extra mile and get some hot cologne, a cool necklace and slick watch, maybe even get a tattoo or a diamond earring if you're up to it.
7) Take BOTH a martial arts class and a dance class. Body language is EXTREMELY important to girls, and both these improve your body language. You need to be ready to fight because girls want a man who can stand up for himself, and you might run into a meatheaded jerk at a club who likes the same girl as you, and YOU want to come out looking like the Alpha, right? Also women associate dancing with sex, and not alot of guys can dance well, so those who can they notice IMMEDIATELY.
8) BUILD SOCIAL CAPITAL! Join clubs that you're interested in, play sports, do a camping club, get on meet-up.com, as long as you're already good-looking and chill, then people will like you.
9) If you're going to "cold approach" random girls, go to a coffee shop, or sandwich shop, or bookstore. Presuming this is after you have your muscles, slick clothes, and "peacocking" down, just talk to a cute, nerdy-looking girl who's reading. If you already have the "alpha" persona down, then all you have to do is just be nice, be genuine, and act like you really care. If you have big muscles and act all nice and sweet, she will go BONKERS. Remember, girls at bookstores aren't like girls at sorority parties and clubs, so DON'T be douchey. The muscles will let her know who you are, so just act nice.
10) I don't recommend this for everyone, but MAYBE buy a lapdance from a stripper if you are still a virgin or have erotophobia issues. Get used to touching a woman's body so when the moment comes, you won't freak out. ONLY do this if you feel comfortable though, you don't have to. Decide if it's right for you.

But overall buddy, remember to PUT YOURSELF first. Don't let anyone walk on you. But you have to be nice around girls. But be a tough guy in your day to day routine. Girls like guys who are tough guys out in the world, but are sweet and sensitive when you come home to them.
 
Well, thanks Socrates, but maybe I should rephrase myself. I'm not looking to just hook up with any girl. I want to find someone who likes me for me. I mean, I practice good hygiene, I am in good shape (I don't have a 6-pack but I am healthy, trim, and do exercise regularly), and actually several of my female friends do help me dress and present myself. I'm confident enough in my appearance, its just that I'm not sure what to do next.

Not to deride your methods Socrates, but to be honest all of my friends, male and female alike (most of whom are in relationships) do not look kindly on that "seduction community" stuff. And I'm not sure I would want a girl who would fall for a pre-packaged presentation.
 
Sling said:
Well, thanks Socrates, but maybe I should rephrase myself. I'm not looking to just hook up with any girl. I want to find someone who likes me for me. I mean, I practice good hygiene, I am in good shape (I don't have a 6-pack but I am healthy, trim, and do exercise regularly), and actually several of my female friends do help me dress and present myself. I'm confident enough in my appearance, its just that I'm not sure what to do next.

Not to deride your methods Socrates, but to be honest all of my friends, male and female alike (most of whom are in relationships) do not look kindly on that "seduction community" stuff. And I'm not sure I would want a girl who would fall for a pre-packaged presentation.

Thank goodness that common sense is still alive and well.

Seriously...I'd say it's only a matter of time before you find what you seek, Sling, if the way you comport yourself here is any indication.
Kudos to you!
 
SocratesX said:
Hey buddy, welcome to the forum!

If you are an inexperienced young man, TEN simple but tedious steps can be followed.

1) Embark on a NEUROTIC hygiene routine. Good teeth, NO acne, no dandruff, shave head if you're balding. NEVER FORGET deodorant.
2) Hit the gym for at LEAST six months before making approaches. If you are overweight, cut, if you are skinny, bulk and cut. There are four standard exercises, the benchpress, deadlift, squats, and military press.
3) While you are hitting the gym, buy some material on the art of seduction. They usually have some good techniques. Alot of the techniques are BS, but the lifestyle stuff is spot on. It's also good for learning how women think.
4) When you are in shape, get a female friend to take you shopping, and buy an outfit for clubbing aka sarging. A fitting pair of jeans, nice dress shoes, and some fitting loud dress shirts should work.
5) Get the right haircut and shave. If you have heavy beard, use that to your advantage and do a 3-day beard. If you have the right face, do a buzzed head like the army guys do.
6) Learn how to peacock, which some call displaying your "******". Go the extra mile and get some hot cologne, a cool necklace and slick watch, maybe even get a tattoo or a diamond earring if you're up to it.
7) Take BOTH a martial arts class and a dance class. Body language is EXTREMELY important to girls, and both these improve your body language. You need to be ready to fight because girls want a man who can stand up for himself, and you might run into a meatheaded jerk at a club who likes the same girl as you, and YOU want to come out looking like the Alpha, right? Also women associate dancing with sex, and not alot of guys can dance well, so those who can they notice IMMEDIATELY.
8) BUILD SOCIAL CAPITAL! Join clubs that you're interested in, play sports, do a camping club, get on meet-up.com, as long as you're already good-looking and chill, then people will like you.
9) If you're going to "cold approach" random girls, go to a coffee shop, or sandwich shop, or bookstore. Presuming this is after you have your muscles, slick clothes, and "peacocking" down, just talk to a cute, nerdy-looking girl who's reading. If you already have the "alpha" persona down, then all you have to do is just be nice, be genuine, and act like you really care. If you have big muscles and act all nice and sweet, she will go BONKERS. Remember, girls at bookstores aren't like girls at sorority parties and clubs, so DON'T be douchey. The muscles will let her know who you are, so just act nice.
10) I don't recommend this for everyone, but MAYBE buy a lapdance from a stripper if you are still a virgin or have erotophobia issues. Get used to touching a woman's body so when the moment comes, you won't freak out. ONLY do this if you feel comfortable though, you don't have to. Decide if it's right for you.

But overall buddy, remember to PUT YOURSELF first. Don't let anyone walk on you. But you have to be nice around girls. But be a tough guy in your day to day routine. Girls like guys who are tough guys out in the world, but are sweet and sensitive when you come home to them.

Oh, great. Mr. Perfect comes on here and tells us how it's done. Right. Listen, I won't take advice from someone who claims to have "cured" his Asperger's Syndrome and neither should someone else. All it equates to is attempting to become someone you are not. Plain and simple.
 
Welcome to the site, Sling. :)

SocratesX said:
1) Embark on a NEUROTIC hygiene routine. Good teeth, NO acne, no dandruff, shave head if you're balding. NEVER FORGET deodorant.
2) Hit the gym for at LEAST six months before making approaches. If you are overweight, cut, if you are skinny, bulk and cut. There are four standard exercises, the benchpress, deadlift, squats, and military press.
3) While you are hitting the gym, buy some material on the art of seduction. They usually have some good techniques. Alot of the techniques are BS, but the lifestyle stuff is spot on. It's also good for learning how women think.
4) When you are in shape, get a female friend to take you shopping, and buy an outfit for clubbing aka sarging. A fitting pair of jeans, nice dress shoes, and some fitting loud dress shirts should work.
5) Get the right haircut and shave. If you have heavy beard, use that to your advantage and do a 3-day beard. If you have the right face, do a buzzed head like the army guys do.
6) Learn how to peacock, which some call displaying your "******". Go the extra mile and get some hot cologne, a cool necklace and slick watch, maybe even get a tattoo or a diamond earring if you're up to it.
7) Take BOTH a martial arts class and a dance class. Body language is EXTREMELY important to girls, and both these improve your body language. You need to be ready to fight because girls want a man who can stand up for himself, and you might run into a meatheaded jerk at a club who likes the same girl as you, and YOU want to come out looking like the Alpha, right? Also women associate dancing with sex, and not alot of guys can dance well, so those who can they notice IMMEDIATELY.
8) BUILD SOCIAL CAPITAL! Join clubs that you're interested in, play sports, do a camping club, get on meet-up.com, as long as you're already good-looking and chill, then people will like you.
9) If you're going to "cold approach" random girls, go to a coffee shop, or sandwich shop, or bookstore. Presuming this is after you have your muscles, slick clothes, and "peacocking" down, just talk to a cute, nerdy-looking girl who's reading. If you already have the "alpha" persona down, then all you have to do is just be nice, be genuine, and act like you really care. If you have big muscles and act all nice and sweet, she will go BONKERS. Remember, girls at bookstores aren't like girls at sorority parties and clubs, so DON'T be douchey. The muscles will let her know who you are, so just act nice.
10) I don't recommend this for everyone, but MAYBE buy a lapdance from a stripper if you are still a virgin or have erotophobia issues. Get used to touching a woman's body so when the moment comes, you won't freak out. ONLY do this if you feel comfortable though, you don't have to. Decide if it's right for you.

Crock 'o' horseshit. Don't listen to this garbage.
 
umm, well try not to worry to much,

I kinda disagree with socraties hygene is great, but dude you can go ahead and ask a girl out whenever, you don't have to be super buff and in shape

how about just talking and getting to some girls in your classes or at work or extra ciricular activies are a great oppritunity,

be friendly get to know them, see if you have things in common, and then just say hey I really enjoy chatting and hangin out with you, would you like to go out to a movie or something sometime

good luck man

:)
 
Sling said:
Well, thanks Socrates, but maybe I should rephrase myself. I'm not looking to just hook up with any girl. I want to find someone who likes me for me. I mean, I practice good hygiene, I am in good shape (I don't have a 6-pack but I am healthy, trim, and do exercise regularly), and actually several of my female friends do help me dress and present myself. I'm confident enough in my appearance, its just that I'm not sure what to do next.

Not to deride your methods Socrates, but to be honest all of my friends, male and female alike (most of whom are in relationships) do not look kindly on that "seduction community" stuff. And I'm not sure I would want a girl who would fall for a pre-packaged presentation.


I applaud you for not listening to his rubbish. My first tip you was actually, "Don't listen to Socrates."

Now that you've stepped around that, being yourself works. That's what I've found to work because it's true and honest. There's no sense in pretending to be something or someone you're not. If someone sets you up with their friend again, just relax and be yourself. Get to know that person over time, and perhaps something great will come of it.
 
"6) Learn how to peacock, which some call displaying your "******"."

I am still seriously laughing out loud at this one... Oh the stuff you come up with Socrates, is amazing.... lol anyhoooo,

Welcome Sling,
I wish you all the best in finding what you are searching for. Trying going to places that interest you, and you will find like-minded people, that share your interests.. and be yourself... and please.. don't "Display your ******". :p
 
Yeah, I was wondering if a bunch of people would swarm in overnight and call "peacocking" horseshit, since I was a little too polite to. Glad I wasn't disappointed. :)

Thanks everyone for the initial tips, I have to go to work now but I'll write more later.
 
Danielle said:
"6) Learn how to peacock, which some call displaying your "******"."

I am still seriously laughing out loud at this one... Oh the stuff you come up with Socrates, is amazing.... lol anyhoooo,

Welcome Sling,
I wish you all the best in finding what you are searching for. Trying going to places that interest you, and you will find like-minded people, that share your interests.. and be yourself... and please.. don't "Display your ******". :p

Me and two of my guy friends were talking about how important it is to have "******". One of my beautiful female friends even told me straight up that the man she wants has to be a "laid-back, gym-fiend, *******" (EXACT words). There are scrawny little dudes whose arm I could break with zero effort who have beautiful girls all over them because they display their "******" and "peacock" correctly. (It's sickening but true)

It is a fact of life that I extremely loathe, but true. "******" (aka "confidence") should NEVER be a attempted though unless one has the looks, muscles, and social capital to back it up.
 
Sling said:
Well, thanks Socrates, but maybe I should rephrase myself. I'm not looking to just hook up with any girl. I want to find someone who likes me for me. I mean, I practice good hygiene, I am in good shape (I don't have a 6-pack but I am healthy, trim, and do exercise regularly), and actually several of my female friends do help me dress and present myself. I'm confident enough in my appearance, its just that I'm not sure what to do next.

Not to deride your methods Socrates, but to be honest all of my friends, male and female alike (most of whom are in relationships) do not look kindly on that "seduction community" stuff. And I'm not sure I would want a girl who would fall for a pre-packaged presentation.

Well you say you have good hygiene and decent shape etc... i think all you really need to do is try to be confident and try and spark conversation with women. Just be friendly, smile, look them in the eyes, ask questions that show that you have interest in what she is doing in her life. Dont go all out and be really energetic with a wide grin on your face, she might just think your either mental or desperate. Just act calm, collected and friendly although ofcourse i know for some, especially the shy types like me, it can be very difficult. :)

I have never been in a relationship so what i just said is probably a load of rubbish though... im too shy. lol
 
Dear Sling, go forth and attempt, vini vidi vici.

Don't listen to that PUA **** from other people it only makes you look like an inexperienced *******, if you got it you got it, if you don't you don't plain and simple.

What others refer to as a ****** is just someone with the ****** to actually attempt, if you never try you'll never succeed. Remember everyone feels the same with insecurities and denial, how you would feel if someone asked you out is most likely how the other will feel.
 
SocratesX said:
Danielle said:
"6) Learn how to peacock, which some call displaying your "******"."

I am still seriously laughing out loud at this one... Oh the stuff you come up with Socrates, is amazing.... lol anyhoooo,

Welcome Sling,
I wish you all the best in finding what you are searching for. Trying going to places that interest you, and you will find like-minded people, that share your interests.. and be yourself... and please.. don't "Display your ******". :p

Me and two of my guy friends were talking about how important it is to have "******". One of my beautiful female friends even told me straight up that the man she wants has to be a "laid-back, gym-fiend, *******" (EXACT words). There are scrawny little dudes whose arm I could break with zero effort who have beautiful girls all over them because they display their "******" and "peacock" correctly. (It's sickening but true)

It is a fact of life that I extremely loathe, but true. "******" (aka "confidence") should NEVER be a attempted though unless one has the looks, muscles, and social capital to back it up.

To each their own.... but man, that girl sounds as if she has no self esteem whatsoever... to say that the man "she wants has to be a "laid-back, gym-fiend, *******" . Also, I'm guessing young.... and shallow....

anyway..... it not what most women want....its not what *I* want....
 
Got ******? **giggles**
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I.... I want to see a girl use those now... All of them..

Is this wrong?
 
Lol Nal and Lim.


Seriously though...

Being a ****** doesn't equal confidence. Being a ****** means that you're not confident enough with yourself. Like I said, just being yourself works more than anything else. If you happen to be a ******, fine. But that doesn't mean it always works.
 
VanillaCreme said:
I applaud you for not listening to his rubbish. My first tip you was actually, "Don't listen to Socrates."
Lol. (Sorry, Soc.)

Now that you've stepped around that, being yourself works. That's what I've found to work because it's true and honest. There's no sense in pretending to be something or someone you're not. If someone sets you up with their friend again, just relax and be yourself. Get to know that person over time, and perhaps something great will come of it.
Exactly.

I don't know if you experience anxiety, Sling. I do sometimes. Other times I'm quite bold. I really can't explain it. I've noticed that it depends on my mood at the moment. I've learned that the best thing to do to overcome anxiety is to just SPEAK. Even if it comes out wrong, once the ice is broken, it becomes easier to connect.



Naleena said:
Got ******? **giggles**
Douche_Bottles_for_Women.jpg

Yeah, baby. Now, that's a silver bullet!

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