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We're getting off point, but you're generalising here, and I don't agree.
I'm giving another example of the same attitude, an attitude of superiority, denying that in essence we are still animals, who eat, drink and mate.
If as a species we would be a bit more modest, that would not be so bad for us.

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I'm giving another example of the same attitude, an attitude of superiority, denying that in essence we are still animals, who eat, drink and mate.
If as a species we would be a bit more modest, that would not be so bad for us.
You mix in things together so easily. 1) yes we eat, drink and mate, but we also reason, invent, analyse, and so much more than animals and as such are superior 2) modesty is sadly too much of a lost trait and I agree that we should show more of it. I'm often saying we need more modesty on platforms like Instagram where women often push the boundaries of what is decent without being removed as ****.
 
You mix in things together so easily. 1) yes we eat, drink and mate, but we also reason, invent, analyse, and so much more than animals and as such are superior 2) modesty is sadly too much of a lost trait and I agree that we should show more of it. I'm often saying we need more modesty on platforms like Instagram where women often push the boundaries of what is decent without being removed as ****.
The more animals are studied, the more examples are found of animals that reason, that can solve problems, and also invent tools.
We are a lot less unique than we really think.
Why would sexual attraction be totally different for humans than it is for other species?
For instance, investigation shows that there are many women who will stay with a guy because of the financial stability, but at the time of month they are most fertile will be unfaithful, thereby producing offspring from physically more attractive (which also means better genes) men.
So they take a rich man who also takes good care of the children, but let the genes come from another man.
 
The more animals are studied, the more examples are found of animals that reason, that can solve problems, and also invent tools.
We are a lot less unique than we really think.
Why would sexual attraction be totally different for humans than it is for other species?
For instance, investigation shows that there are many women who will stay with a guy because of the financial stability, but at the time of month they are most fertile will be unfaithful, thereby producing offspring from physically more attractive (which also means better genes) men.
So they take a rich man who also takes good care of the children, but let the genes come from another man.
If you want to lower yourself to the level of an animal, please feel free to do so. Of course there are examples of animals doing such things in a minor way, but it pales into insignificance compared to humans. Your example of what women do, is just that, an example. There are exmaples of everything, even men that you would consider to be ugly having wonderful relationships with women who aren't just with them for their money or power. Having said all this, okay, so let's agree that you're an ugly specimen of a man - so now what? Does that mean you can't have a fulfilling meaningful and happy life? Of course not, because many in such a situation have managed it.
 
If you want to lower yourself to the level of an animal, please feel free to do so. Of course there are examples of animals doing such things in a minor way, but it pales into insignificance compared to humans. Your example of what women do, is just that, an example. There are exmaples of everything, even men that you would consider to be ugly having wonderful relationships with women who aren't just with them for their money or power. Having said all this, okay, so let's agree that you're an ugly specimen of a man - so now what? Does that mean you can't have a fulfilling meaningful and happy life? Of course not, because many in such a situation have managed it.
I am not lowering myself, I am assuming reality as it is.
We have evolved, other animals evolved too.
I think what makes the human space typical is that it is so versatile, we don't have the sharpest vision, nor are our other senses ever the best, but we did learn to adapt.
I didn't say that every woman who is with an ugly man is only there because of financial stability or for the power, but face it, the most beautiful women are rarely with ugly, poor men.
Can the rest of us have a good life?
Of course, but if we continue to try to get the most beautiful women, I'm afraid they will always be out of our reach, and it might make us very unhappy.

PS: I don't consider myself ugly, but I don't have a six pack either, I think I'm pretty average, not ugly but not fantastically good looking either.
Any problems I have I don't think are really related to how I look.
 
I don't know why men bother trying to get with the most beautiful women anyway. Focusing so much on beauty takes away from other great attributes.

Good luck in your endeavours
I think the reason for that is biology, which proves that we are in essence, still animals.
A totally non-symmetric face for instance (not just a bit, because a normal face is not perfectly symmetric anyway) indicates bad genes.
Nature makes us look for partners that are fit to produce good offspring.

I don't think I'm looking for perfection, anyway.
 
I think the reason for that is biology, which proves that we are in essence, still animals.
A totally non-symmetric face for instance (not just a bit, because a normal face is not perfectly symmetric anyway) indicates bad genes.
Nature makes us look for partners that are fit to produce good offspring.

I don't think I'm looking for perfection, anyway.
given the climate of society today, with all the things that are accepted and tolerated, i don't think nature has that much of an influence anymore in that respect.
 
given the climate of society today, with all the things that are accepted and tolerated, i don't think nature has that much of an influence anymore in that respect.
You mean like homosexuality or something?
Even that exists in the animal kingdom.
A lot is accepted, but it doesn't mean that nature stopped having an influence on people in general.
 
You mean like homosexuality or something?
Even that exists in the animal kingdom.
A lot is accepted, but it doesn't mean that nature stopped having an influence on people in general.
I didn't say it stopped, just that its influence isn't so great anymore. Yes, that occurs a little bit in the animal kingdom I know, but two gay animals aren't going to be raising any family.

I've forgotten what this thread is even about now.
 
I don't know why men bother trying to get with the most beautiful women anyway. Focusing so much on beauty takes away from other great attributes.

Good luck in your endeavours
totally agree, my first gf was not a hottie, but she became one with her personnality and intelligence ^^

sadly we broke up because of my mental illness and radicalism...
 

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