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It's always sad when someone dies, but the woman represented all that is bad about the United Kingdom.
 
RIP pole tax... oh wait, that lives on!
 
CAS said:
but the woman represented all that is bad about the United Kingdom.

This.

I think you'd find plenty of people who were relieved she's finally gone.
 
I'll repost what I put on Facebook earlier:

Love her or hate her, she was THE defining figure of British post-war politics. Whatever your views of her policies, she was one of very few leaders to ever leave this country in a better financial and political state than when they found it. However, this gain for the majority came at a large social expense, and absolute misery for a minority.

But whether you think she was the saviour of Britain or the Devil incarnate, nothing justifies street parties over the death of an ill old woman. That's just vulgar and cheap.

Wanna vent? Try doing something positive with that "pissed off at politicians" energy. We have living, breathing, currently-in-power ones who have much more ability to affect our day to day lives than gripes about the politics of 30 years ago.
 
Why do they always have to take the good ones before their time?

Say what you will about her politics/cold soulless heart/pact with the devil, that lady's perm was indeed, made of iron.
 
Badjedidude said:
CAS said:
but the woman represented all that is bad about the United Kingdom.

This.

I think you'd find plenty of people who were relieved she's finally gone.

Yeah, they must have hated her for kickstarting the ecomony, boosting the stockmarket and giving council tenants the right to buy.

How she represents everything that is bad about Britain is beyond me.

But like lady x said ain't about her policies or whether you like/hate her.

A strong, remarkable leader with more backbone to make changes and succeed than any of the idiots running around in power today.
 
Poguesy said:
Yeah, they must have hated her for kickstarting the ecomony, boosting the stockmarket and giving council tenants the right to buy.

How she represents everything that is bad about Britain is beyond me.

That's fine.

But it's also your opinion. There are a lot of people who would disagree with you.

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=150369015

This article highlights a couple of the largest complaints against her.

It's also entirely possible for her to be the BEST of Britain to some, and the WORST of Britain to others. There's no dichotomy here where the two views can't coexist regarding the same person.
 
Badjedidude said:
Poguesy said:
Yeah, they must have hated her for kickstarting the ecomony, boosting the stockmarket and giving council tenants the right to buy.

How she represents everything that is bad about Britain is beyond me.

That's fine.

But it's also your opinion. There are a lot of people who would disagree with you.

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=150369015

This article highlights a couple of the largest complaints against her.

It's also entirely possible for her to be the BEST of Britain to some, and the WORST of Britain to others. There's no dichotomy here where the two views can't coexist regarding the same person.

Well, I don't intend to start debating on the rights and wrongs of Maggie and I am well aware people will have different views.

Just remember one thing...

The lady's not for turning ;)
 
Another legacy she's left us; weeks of tributes and clip documentaries!
 
So a social conservative who's held up to unrealistic standards?

I'm not a fan of Reagan's policies, so if she's anywhere close to that, color me annoyed.
 
She weakened the unions and closed the mines, therefore making a lot of hard-working, proud miners unemployed and unable to work ever again.

How is that a legacy to be proud of?
 
rdor said:
900 dead in a pointless war.

Then unpopular Argentine dictators should think twice before invading British territories for the sake of a populist vote.


CAS said:
She weakened the unions and closed the mines, therefore making a lot of hard-working, proud miners unemployed and unable to work ever again.

How is that a legacy to be proud of?

The unions were out of control, too powerful and were throwing around industrial action every five minutes. All this with British industry already on its knees.

The mines presented more expenditure than income, so why keep them open?

If Maggie's economic policies were that harsh why has no leading politician changed it since?

There's always going to casualties but she got Britain back on the map and revived a ruined economy.
 
Poguesy said:
The unions were out of control, too powerful and were throwing around industrial action every five minutes. All this with British industry already on its knees.

Out of whose control? The businesses? The people sure didn't mind.

Poguesy said:
The mines presented more expenditure than income, so why keep them open?

No, the mining companies just didn't want to give cost-of-living adjustments and employees didn't want to stand for it. If it was just that she wouldn't have referred to them as the "enemy within." Instead she enacted a typical right-wing response: "Do what we want you to do, or else." Countless non-violent protesters were locked up and beaten to a pulp.

Poguesy said:
If Maggie's economic policies were that harsh why has no leading politician changed it since?

Because corporate money makes the world go 'round. Tyranny is a whole lot easier to keep now, too. All you have to do is hire the best psychologists in the field to help write your propaganda pieces and establish air superiority in case of an insurrection.

Poguesy said:
There's always going to casualties but she got Britain back on the map and revived a ruined economy.

o rly? The problems that she claimed to alleviate had already subsided by 1978. By enacting a variety of regressive taxes she only widened the income gap.

You know, it's amazing how far right-wingers will take "privatize success, socialize failure." If a company makes all kinds of profit, then the leaders of said company are held up as champions. If a company begins to lag behind as a whole, the bottom rung employees - the people with the least amount of actual influence on the company's operation - are suddenly to blame for executive error. For being the staunch social Darwinists they are, shouldn't they advocate throwing failed executives out on the street? Oh, that's right, the people who run companies are of a rank and file above the rest. They live at a higher standard by virtue of existence.
 

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