Prostituion really helps reduce loneliness and makes you feel comforted. (no sex)

[Spiderpope]

How can a guy know that a woman is offering sex, if she doesn't advertise it?

That is ridiculous. And what is sad is that it's usually the guy who goes down, and ends up with a criminal record.

Most of those prosecutions are due to police stings, if a real prostitute were involved they'd be prosecuted too. And i should point out that the solicitation also applies to the punter - you can't ask to pay for sex either.

How it works? Well there are certain phrases used. A "masseuse" may offer a "happy ending" for example. Or an escort will offer "other services upon request". And of course there are those who flout the law entirely and just offer sex for cash.*

* Just to note my knowledge of this comes through doing A-Level Law and it was part of the criminal law module. I don't go trawling massage parlours in my spare time.

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

Interesting.

You say you're from the UK, though...I think it is different here. Americans are crazy about sex...we throw sex out there in the media, and then, when someone gets caught with their pants down, it's suddenly not okay to have sex...

I just don't understand it. George Carlin said it best. You can sell, you can ****, why can't you sell *******?

 

[EveWasFramed]

Interesting.

You say you're from the UK, though...I think it is different here.

Nah...it's pretty much the same over there too.

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

I wasn't aware of British laws.

 

[EveWasFramed]

No...I mean society. Brits aren't really much different from Americans.

 

[Edward W]

No...I mean society. Brits aren't really much different from Americans.

But say 'Crikey' a bit more!

 

[EveWasFramed]

No...I mean society. Brits aren't really much different from Americans.

But say 'Crikey' a bit more!

LOL!!!

But seriously...from what I could tell when I visited the UK, I didn't really notice much of a difference, as far as societal norms. Am I wrong about that, Edward? (hmm)

 

[Spiderpope]

Interesting.

You say you're from the UK, though...I think it is different here. Americans are crazy about sex...we throw sex out there in the media, and then, when someone gets caught with their pants down, it's suddenly not okay to have sex...

I just don't understand it. George Carlin said it best. You can sell, you can ****, why can't you sell *******?

No it's the same here really. Embezzle, defraud, assault, those can all be forgiven after a week or two by the press. Have sex with someone you shouldn't though, and bam! you're the topic of conversation for months if not years.

And we have the same ridiculous attitude to sex in the media as America. Be violent all you want, but don't you dare put a nipple on screen before 9pm.

As for prostitution and solicitation i've always maintained it should be legal. You legalize it, you can regulate and tax it. It would benefit all involved. The men and women selling themselves would be able to do so in safe, secure places, with regular health checks. The punters would know they aren't going to get ripped off, or attacked by a pimp. And you take the whole thing out of the hands of organized crime completely.

Even as someone with no intention of ever using a prostitute, it makes sense.

 

[Runciter]

And we have the same ridiculous attitude to sex in the media as America. Be violent all you want, but don't you dare put a nipple on screen before 9pm.

Indeed, the UK seems to be going through a bit of a peado-hunt hysteria now which is fair enough except most of the parents who are outraged by it happily let their 14 year old daughters go to school wearing crap loads of makeup and wearing mini-skirts. It baffles me.

As for prostitution, I agree that it should be legal. Yes, the taxes would be nice but what would be better is the protection offered to the girls. Prostitution will always be around but if its illegal you end up, like in the UK, with people bringing girls into the country, taking their passports and forcing them into the trade. At least if it was legal then the girls would be choosing to do it and the traffickers would have a much harder time earning money.

As for prostitution being good for loneliness, I don't think its a good idea. I'm sure they make you feel good but their only interest is the money, they'll tell you whatever you want to hear but once you stop paying do you think they'll keep listening?

I'd also like to point out that I have/will never visit a prostitute but I have no problem with their work or customers. To each his own.

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

I think Germany is a lot more sexually free, which is a good thing. America should be more like Germany, in that regard.

Of course, my foreign history is terrible, so please excuse me if that is inaccurate.

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Here's an article on more sexually liberal countries outside the U.S. - http://www.alternet.org/story/15497..._makes_america_a_less_healthy_and_happy_place

 

[murmi97]

Indeed, the UK seems to be going through a bit of a peado-hunt hysteria now which is fair enough except most of the parents who are outraged by it happily let their 14 year old daughters go to school wearing crap loads of makeup and wearing mini-skirts. It baffles me.

That's not right at all, blaming 14 year old girls for the sickness of pedophiles. In an ideal world they'd all be thinking as/dressed as children, sure(actually I wouldn't assume a female of any age wearing a mini is sexualized). But that doesn't mean their wardrobe choice is anything we should change to fix the problem.

 

[Runciter]

That's not right at all, blaming 14 year old girls for the sickness of pedophiles.

At no point did I blame the girls, please don't put words in my mouth. I was commenting on the parents, not the children and at no point did I blame anyone.

In an ideal world they'd all be thinking as/dressed as children, sure(actually I wouldn't assume a female of any age wearing a mini is sexualized).

Wearing makeup and showing almost all of your legs is sexualization whether you think it is or not. Try going for a walk in jeans and a t-shirt with no make up through a busy town, do the same walk again with a miniskirt and makeup. See how many men leer over you and compare the numbers. Alternatively, visit almost any porn site and you'll see, rather disturbingly, that women dressed as school girls seems to be a rather large theme.

But that doesn't mean their wardrobe choice is anything we should change to fix the problem.

Agreed, besides peadophilia would still exist if we forced all children to wear burkas. But perhaps changing their wardrobes might teach them while they're young that what is inside is more important than how they look. The fact is that children are becoming sexually active at very young ages, teenage pregnancy is a huge problem in the UK and if I was a parent of a young child (male or female) I would be doing all I could to help them keep their innocence, at least until they've left school.

 

[Rob82]

t's amazing but I don't want to go back a week later

Really? I usually want to go back the next day

And yeah, not all the girls are your average slef-destructive hooker stereotype. Some do it until they graduate from college, for example.

Hey bud, please could you edit your post because it's somehow ended up with my name on it as though it's me that visits the working girl. Just wouldn't want someone searching my name and thinking that it was me Thanks.

 

[Felix]

t's amazing but I don't want to go back a week later

Really? I usually want to go back the next day

And yeah, not all the girls are your average slef-destructive hooker stereotype. Some do it until they graduate from college, for example.

Hey bud, please could you edit your post because it's somehow ended up with my name on it as though it's me that visits the working girl. Just wouldn't want someone searching my name and thinking that it was me Thanks.

My bad, can't edit the post anymore tho. Maybe a generous mod can help?

 

[EveWasFramed]

I think I fixed the posts. However, just for future reference, when you guys keep "quoting" each other, it leaves a post for me to edit each time.

 

[murmi97]

That's not right at all, blaming 14 year old girls for the sickness of pedophiles.

At no point did I blame the girls, please don't put words in my mouth. I was commenting on the parents, not the children and at no point did I blame anyone.

In an ideal world they'd all be thinking as/dressed as children, sure(actually I wouldn't assume a female of any age wearing a mini is sexualized).

Wearing makeup and showing almost all of your legs is sexualization whether you think it is or not. Try going for a walk in jeans and a t-shirt with no make up through a busy town, do the same walk again with a miniskirt and makeup. See how many men leer over you and compare the numbers. Alternatively, visit almost any porn site and you'll see, rather disturbingly, that women dressed as school girls seems to be a rather large theme.

Still that's a misconception about sexual violence right there. It's not about how good/revealing what their possible target is wearing. Most victims are chosen for their vulnerability/isolation, not their appeal. Rapist Types and Methods of Avoidance

 

[duff]

t's amazing but I don't want to go back a week later

Really? I usually want to go back the next day

And yeah, not all the girls are your average slef-destructive hooker stereotype. Some do it until they graduate from college, for example.

can't afford it.

When I started in 1997 I did go twice in one week though. It was only £35 then.

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I wish prostitution wasn't illegal.

I know lots of people still take part in it, but I'd feel more comfortable if I had that option available without a go to jail card.

Prostitution isn't illegal. It's solicitation that is illegal. You can pay for sex all you want, but the prostitute cannot advertise his or her services in any way shape or form.

It's how "massage" parlours get away with it here in the UK.

massage parlours and escorts advertise in the local paper. The paper must know what really goes on.

Funny though, first time I went I actually thought it was only going to be a massage. After the massage the Lady said 'any extra's - I couldn't believe it. Bravest thing I ever did was to go through with it.

 

[Runciter]

Still that's a misconception about sexual violence right there. It's not about how good/revealing what their possible target is wearing. Most victims are chosen for their vulnerability/isolation, not their appeal. Rapist Types and Methods of Avoidance

I wonder if you actually read my posts? At no point did I say sex-offenders choose their victims based on their appeal. If you care to re-read my previous post you will notice that I said "besides peadophilia would still exist if we forced all children to wear burkas." Which would indicate that I don't believe that peados are a result of the sexualization of young children.

If you don't understand my opinion feel free to ask me to clarify, but again I'd like to ask you to stop putting words in my mouth.

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

Obviously, teenage girls who dress like they're 20 year olds are going to be treated like 20 year olds...especially among those who are 20 and look like they're teenagers. This is common sense.

 

[murmi97]

And how are 20 year olds going to be treated exactly? I only noticed more respect, if only slightly more.

I wonder if you actually read my posts? At no point did I say sex-offenders choose their victims based on their appeal. If you care to re-read my previous post you will notice that I said "besides peadophilia would still exist if we forced all children to wear burkas." Which would indicate that I don't believe that peados are a result of the sexualization of young children.

If you don't understand my opinion feel free to ask me to clarify, but again I'd like to ask you to stop putting words in my mouth.

No, I don't understand the way you see things but I wouldn't know what to ask to clarify. Seems kinda like you're saying several things at once - At least that means you're human. Baiters are rarely that complicated. And yes, I totally had an emotional reaction to you mentioning girls' appearance (and their choices in that regard - a prominent representation of their humanity) in the same sentence as the said crime against them.