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How hard is it to make a concrete compilation of rules that we should be following on this forum? Just make a section at the top of the forum called RULES! It would really help a lot. Hiding little tidbits all around the forum isn't the way to do it folks. This isn't even the first time it has been brought up.
 
not a bad idea kamya
they r kinda all over the place
n maybe thats y sum ppl have probs following them
 
I think some of the mods have different ideas of what exactly would qualify as an *******. There should be an obvious set of rules if people are going to get punished for things.

It couldn't hurt, and its not like it takes that much effort. Might actually pull off the illusion that the admins/mods care a little.
 
Wth? Are you a kid? Things not to do are obvious, come on... You still need to be said what is wrong and what's not?
 
Well no I'm not a kid. There are kids that are on this forum though. I've never had any problems with rules here personally. Some people do. It isn't even a bad suggestion. No need to get angry at me for it.
 
Even if there was a set of rules/guidelines, they wouldn't be limited. Non-enumerated rules would still apply and could be utilized at a mod's discretion.
 
WHY do you need to read rules about what to do and what to not do IF you already know what is banned and what is not? That's childish. And you ASSUME mods dont do enough effort when I KNOW they spend much time to make this place comfortable
 
shells said:
Even if there was a set of rules/guidelines, they wouldn't be limited. Non-enumerated rules would still apply and could be utilized at a mod's discretion.

This is true.
 
Ledia said:
WHY do you need to read rules about what to do and what to not do IF you already know what is banned and what is not? That's childish. And you ASSUME mods dont do enough effort when I KNOW they spend much time to make this place comfortable
It is not childish. Just because I'm a nice guy and generally know how to act doesn't mean everyone is naturally like that. The suggestion isn't even for me.

It isn't an assumption. The mods have been changed around a bit but there have been a few times where I pm a mod and get blown off and treated like crap. Either in chat or on the forum.

bjarne said:
Rules are, basically, required and probably should be stated in some way on the site. There's already some implied rules like: no spamming, no excessive cursing, bashing or advertising (except for signatures or highly related resource tips). Some other rules might be taken from the www.moviecodec.com rules : ie. no encouraging of suicide (obviously), posting of peoples personal information. But rest assured, I do not wish to be strict and narrowminded when making the rules: just want to rule out certain things that are highly annoying to the majority of people (ie. pornography and spamming) and things that are illegal (ie. warez, suicide encouragements and death threats).
Four years later. Still nothing. Hell, even stickying this one post to the top of the forum would be enough.
 
That things dont go as you wish doesnt mean they are not TRYING their best. And that the forum is 'messy' is not their fault. Time is needed to fix things and a few rules that wouldnt serve much is the least of the problems they have to deal with in the forum.
 
kamya said:
How hard is it to make a concrete compilation of rules that we should be following on this forum? Just make a section at the top of the forum called RULES! It would really help a lot. Hiding little tidbits all around the forum isn't the way to do it folks. This isn't even the first time it has been brought up.

To have extensive written rules of behavior or not - is a choice. One isn't necessarily better than the other in this situation, and I don't see a very strong need for them to be written and posted, as most everyone on the site behaves respectfully and appropriately.

kamya said:
I think some of the mods have different ideas of what exactly would qualify as an *******. There should be an obvious set of rules if people are going to get punished for things.

People are almost always given warnings, often repeated warnings before any punishment is distributed, and such instances are few and far between. Additionally, there is no such thing as an obvious set of rules, if there were we would only need the written law, and no lawyers or judges for interpretation. It will never lack a degree of subjectivity.


kamya said:
It couldn't hurt, and its not like it takes that much effort. Might actually pull off the illusion that the admins/mods care a little.

We really do care, and the presence of no rules is not from lack of effort nor from indifference. Each of us puts in a lot of time each week maintaining the forum. To imply we don't is a bit offensive.

shells said:
Even if there was a set of rules/guidelines, they wouldn't be limited. Non-enumerated rules would still apply and could be utilized at a mod's discretion.

This is also true, after all this is a private forum. In the end, it can be run as the administrator chooses to run it, and in registering all members have already agreed to such terms.

kamya said:
Four years later. Still nothing. Hell, even stickying this one post to the top of the forum would be enough.

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Alright then. You guys don't want to do it. I guess what we have is fine. You guys know what's best. Suggestion shot down.
 
kamya said:
Alright then. You guys don't want to do it. I guess what we have is fine. Suggestion shot down.

Actually, I'm willing to entertain the idea and weigh its benefits, as we have often done regarding this topic. I just wanted to clarify that, in my opinion, the status quo is not as flawed as you seemed to present it as being.
 
I don't really think the status quo is that flawed. I just thought it might help a little. I am sorry for being kind of harsh on the mods. The only one I really had a problem with isn't even a mod anymore it seems like.
 
The reason rules are written down is to reduce subjectivity. It isn't a question that rules are subjective, but rather how subjective.
 
I think most people know how to act appropriately on an internet forum.

The problem is, though, that with many people (me included), we get sucked into debates that spiral off into arguments. The key point is to realize when you're better off agreeing to disagree, and leave it at that. And to not get personal.
 
There are rules posted on this site? Huh...

Most forums have the same kind of rules and it's kind of an unwritten rule that all follow. A list of rules sometimes gets abused by others and are interpreted differently by the person reading it. Moderators can be the worst for this. I was a mod on a site that another moderator abused the rules. Like posting comments on threads that were locked, which is unfair to other users and caused more problems. Or wanting to ban users because he didn't get along with them. When I took over the site the rules were revised because of that one moderator and certain users who liked to start flame wars. That was not fun. When rules are established everyone has to follow them or chaos ensues. They can be like unions, a good idea at first until people start abusing them.
 
I get really sick of the "it can't be perfect, so don't bother" argument. Perfectionists just need to keep their months shut.
 
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