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[Scotsman]

Surely today we're all somewhat more aware of the potential I'll effects of exposure to second hand smoke.
Having both smoking and non-smoking pubs etc would obviously solve the problem....if people took to the idea, and more importantly if an owner of such an establishment would be willing to completely remove a massive percentage of potential customers out of the equation entirely.

Personally, I don't think the atmosphere in pubs has changed at all. I think that's an imagined atmosphere people think back to. Added to that, people having the hump about having to make the effort to get off their arses and stand outside for 5 minutes.

Then there's the staff, why should a non smoking, or smoking employee for that matter breathe in the smoke of others?
I don't see it as being liberal namby pambyism (no, nobody actually said that). Infact it irks me that ******** like this takes up any space on the political agenda. It's a common sense issue.
I'm so sorry that your imagined atmosphere of the past has been ripped mercilessly from your life. I'm sorry you feel like your freedoms have been eroded further still. Tough ****! It's no big deal really.

If I want to smoke then great, I can crack on. But why should I force others to take in some of that? Which is what it is.

And to flirt again with the politicisation of the issue, which I'm reluctant to do, there's a wealth of 'you shouldn't do this, you can't do that' garbage out there. Most worthy of little more than a smirk and a tut. But not the issue of smoking in public paces and passive smoking. Not for me. But then, I only speak for me.

 

[EveWasFramed]

I think someone mentioned something about the bans starting to include areas outside buildings being unfair.
I will put my two cents out there for this issue...

When my daughter and I go to Walmart, and we have to pass through a LITERAL cloud of smoke from all the smokers standing outside, I can see why businesses are banning smoking within so many feet of the building.
I swear I can feel my bronchial tubes start to swell when I breathe it in. Go smoke on the side of the building or something - not where other MUST pass through it to gain entrance.

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

Don't get me wrong. If there are designated smoking areas, that's perfectly fine. I have a sibling who smokes, and friends who smoke, and I don't feel the need to tell them how to live their lives. When they're around me, they don't light up, simply out of respect for me and my health. That is all I ask.

I just find it ridiculous how you are a smoker, and you demand that someone who is allergic to cigarette smoke should be allowed to breathe in yours. It's like forcing someone to drink, if they are an alcoholic. It's a bad decision, and should be illegal...however, some places don't view it that way.

 

[Felix]

@Eve: That sounds fare.

When I was a kid people still smoked in the bars and other closed areas sometimes. I hated it. Fortunately I don't have to breathe that cancerogenous air anymore since the laws are much more strict now.

 

[blackdot]

Offices and shops could have two staffrooms, one smoking and one non smoking.

Companies aren't going for that. For one thing there would be a huge cost in having to make 2 separate areas. Two, the health costs are too great which is why some companies are pushing people to not smoke at all and that includes family members.

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

Offices generally have the smokers go outside to smoke. Which seems fair.

Also, what if you dropped the cigarette? There's a safety concern, as well as a health concern. You could light the whole building on fire, destroying millions in CEO owned equipment, papers, and open yourself up to litigation.

Of course, someone who is dumb enough to light the building on fire probably shouldn't be smoking, anyway, but Einstein said to never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

And as far as smoking outside, that generally saves arguments with the non-smokers, but then the smokers bitch. I say smoking should be treated as a drug, if you're going to act that way. If it's that important to you to smoke, then you don't have to keep your job.

 

[organicNYgirl]

Awww retro I hope you're feeling better xo remember what I told you about singing the Sex Pistols in my head.......maybe this is one of those occasions?

And just for the record, as a non smoker, I'm all for the smoking ban. With the exception of certain bars that may be set aside for smokers. Not allowing people to smoke on the street is a good thing imo. There are people, elderly and asthmatics, that are allergic to the carcinogens that hang out in the cigarette smoke. Cancer sticks are yucky anyway

 

[LeaningIntoTheMuse]

I hope you feel better soon, Retro.

 

[Shut_Out]

Hey Retro, I saw your posts. So you had a bad day and vented on a message board - no biggie. I'm guilty of doing that, as I'm sure many here are, too. I say kudos to you for having the decency to apologize.

 

[Retrospective81]

Thanks muse organic and shut, I feel a lot better thanks. Yeah organic and muse, I wouldn't ever smoke in front of you both. Its not considerate and can be quite rude not to ask how others feel about tobacoo smoke!