what do you think about judging others by Religion ?

[Solitary]

drifter, I never said I agree with Einsteins view of God. I just meant that his idea of it is more accurate than the one religion provides. He also said 'God does not play dice'. I disagree. There is a lot of probability and accidents in life, aside from the laws of physics which are always the same. So again, I do not think that he was right about everything, I just used him as an example because I'm not educated enough to know more about this subject, I'm only 17.

Orthochromatic, I also never said that God has something to do with his reasoning or thinking or E=mc2. I just pointed out to one person above who said that everyone who uses the term 'God' is not worth taking seriously. But about the phrase 'God does not play dice' - Einstein used in an argument against quantum mechanics if I recall correctly. He didn't like the idea of Superposition and Heisenberg principle, or something other connected to QM. Correct me if I'm wrong. So that thing he thought to be God probably had something to do with his overall deterministic understanding of the universe.

And sorry if my arguments lack some validity. I'm not an expert on anything yet

 

[Just_Some_Dude]

Ideologues turn me off, be they theist or atheist.

BIG HUGE FRICKING HIGH-FIVE!!!!!

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I think this thread shows who the real "judgmental" people are.

INDEED

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you are the one that got enraged by it, i wasn't attacking anyone in the first place, you started attacking me out of no where. more importantly, i really really really don't care, if that is what you want to do then go ahead carry on. are you going to make my life any worse than it already is? no. so just carry on.

you've got me pegged. i give up.

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When people feel the need to tell me how "god" would feel about something, how "god" did such and such for them, how "god" took their loved one for a reason, etc... That is when I am "judgmental". I honestly do think less of those people and spend as little time around them as possible.

it's funny. i understand. and i feel the same about people who insist there is no god even though they can't possibly prove it and can't possibly have experienced other people's experiences for them.

the moral of story is, folks, none of us know for certain whether or not there is a god(s), so any claim to support or deny the belief that is stated IN ANY OTHER WAY THAN AS AN OPINION, is pure ignorance. too many statements in this thread needed to start with "in my opinion" or "i think" or "i believe" or "i wonder", but didn't. any many of them from an athiestical pov were just as ignorant. IN MY OPINION - in all of it's subjectivity and imperfection......

 

[Badjedidude]

Ideologues turn me off, be they theist or atheist.

I also agree with this.

I never understood why BOTH athiests and religious people (largely people of the Judeo-Christian persuasion (that includes Islam)) are so bent upon proving that their way is smarter/better/right.

Why can't athiests understand that some people will always need to believe in God, for whatever reason? Why can't religious people understand that some people will always be naturally skeptical, unable to believe without empyrical proof?

I think discussions like this would go a lot smoother if people actually tried to look at things from the other person's viewpoint, instead of focusing on proving themselves absolutely correct. (Note: I'm not flaming anyone here, just stating my opinion on the matter).

 

[mintymint]

I never understood why BOTH athiests and religious people (largely people of the Judeo-Christian persuasion (that includes Islam)) are so bent upon proving that their way is smarter/better/right.

When talking about ascertaining the very meaning (or lack thereof) of existence, it's hard to reconcile things down to a simple matter of 'to each his/her own.' It's easy to understand why it's quite a contentious topic.

 

[Badjedidude]

It's easy to understand why it's quite a contentious topic.

It's only contentious if you automatically assume that your way is the ONLY way and should be the ONLY way for everyone else. I thought we had learned long ago that you can't force someone to believe (or not believe) something against his or her will...but it seems that most people have forgotten that lesson.

My main problem is that people seem to become OFFENDED when their views aren't immediately qualified by others agreeing with them...hence the anger and bitterness that ensues during religious discussions. It's like people take it as a personal insult if someone argues against their view (no matter how TRUE they believe that view to be).

I mean, come on. It's simple manners. If you disagree one way or another, there's no reason to be angry or bitter about it...or devolve into name-calling and bickering. Wouldn't a level-headed, honest, fruitful discussion do more to convince someone of your views?

I dunno, I'm just sorta rambling here. I guess my point is that it should be simpler to talk about religion without all the drama. But it isn't. So...lol I dunno. *shrug*