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QuietDesperation2.0
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I'm not really new to this forum - I previously posted here, briefly, under the same username, but this time, I added 2.0 to it. And I'm definitely not new to forums or sites in general. You've probably seen what I've posted elsewhere online.
It seems Forever Alone women, i.e., femcels, are a very rare breed. There's an r/trufemcels, but I find that site very light and kind of nasty, the way Reddit often is. Femcels definitely do not have the extreme anger and man-hating that male incels infamously have towards women.
It seems most women on this forum are currently in a relationship, but are still lonely, or feel some kind of need to post here. Maybe they've found a supportive community here, and continue being here.
I can kind of understand being lonely while in a relationship - but at the same time, I don't completely get it, since I haven't been in "real" relationship. And if women here aren't currently in a relationship, they've been in some real relationships previously.
What makes a woman Forever Alone?
1. Extremely unattractive looks - that often means a severely ugly face, and/or ugly build/body.
2. Anxiety and awkwardness that's not cute and appealing, but a turnoff.
A lot of women have some anxiety and awkwardness, but it doesn't make them look uglier or more undesirable. However, my anxiety seems to make me look more unattractive and undesirable. Other Forever Alone women I've known come across the same way - their strange sort of anxiety makes them a turnoff to people, and makes them comes off very weird and unlikeable. And some people, like me, have a bullied vibe that invites more bullying. Some people look/act so milquetoast, as I do, that people just want to punch us in the face.
Some people just have a look/vibe that people feel they NEED to be cruel and dismissive towards. It's a combination of factors for me, including unattractive looks, coupled with stereotyping against my ethnicity. Most people aren't overt, but there's definitely subconscious biases against unattractive members of certain ethnicities.
3. Looking masculine, without the usual feminine features that men are attracted to. Kind of goes with #1. Having a face that's the opposite of the Golden Ratio when it comes to women. Studies have shown that women considered the most attractive have neotenous faces, small chins, short philtrum, large eyes, smallish faces, etc. I kind of have the opposite of all that.
4. This is highly unusual, but it's the biggest factor in making me Forever Alone - severe anxiety around men I like, which makes me look even more unattractive, unlikeable, and undesirable around them. Most women who are shy/anxious still look decent and desirable enough - but my extreme anxiety around men I'm attracted to makes me look even more ugly/undesirable, for some reason. So they want nothing to do with me.
5. Having a "type" that generally doesn't like you back. I have very broad and lenient tastes, as any Forever Alone person would have - but that doesn't stop me from having at least some preferences. I've lived my life in an extremely artsy, hipster, educated, SJW place. The vibe of my area is just "me" through and through. But people don't see me as I am, due to stereotypes against me, in addition to how my anxiety manifests itself in my look/vibe. So the types I like, who are everywhere around me - the default type of person in my area - want nothing to do with me. That's despite the fact that I'm more "them" than they are.
I can try extremely hard to like and make do with someone who's the opposite of what I truly find appealing - but it becomes incredibly painful and unbearable for me. I've knowN of other women who have said the same thing.
Anyway, this forum doesn't allow thread deletions, so I'll leave it at that. This is yet another thread contaminating the internet. But it's all true for me, and hopefully gives people insight into the neverending struggles of the rare Forever Alone female.
It seems Forever Alone women, i.e., femcels, are a very rare breed. There's an r/trufemcels, but I find that site very light and kind of nasty, the way Reddit often is. Femcels definitely do not have the extreme anger and man-hating that male incels infamously have towards women.
It seems most women on this forum are currently in a relationship, but are still lonely, or feel some kind of need to post here. Maybe they've found a supportive community here, and continue being here.
I can kind of understand being lonely while in a relationship - but at the same time, I don't completely get it, since I haven't been in "real" relationship. And if women here aren't currently in a relationship, they've been in some real relationships previously.
What makes a woman Forever Alone?
1. Extremely unattractive looks - that often means a severely ugly face, and/or ugly build/body.
2. Anxiety and awkwardness that's not cute and appealing, but a turnoff.
A lot of women have some anxiety and awkwardness, but it doesn't make them look uglier or more undesirable. However, my anxiety seems to make me look more unattractive and undesirable. Other Forever Alone women I've known come across the same way - their strange sort of anxiety makes them a turnoff to people, and makes them comes off very weird and unlikeable. And some people, like me, have a bullied vibe that invites more bullying. Some people look/act so milquetoast, as I do, that people just want to punch us in the face.
Some people just have a look/vibe that people feel they NEED to be cruel and dismissive towards. It's a combination of factors for me, including unattractive looks, coupled with stereotyping against my ethnicity. Most people aren't overt, but there's definitely subconscious biases against unattractive members of certain ethnicities.
3. Looking masculine, without the usual feminine features that men are attracted to. Kind of goes with #1. Having a face that's the opposite of the Golden Ratio when it comes to women. Studies have shown that women considered the most attractive have neotenous faces, small chins, short philtrum, large eyes, smallish faces, etc. I kind of have the opposite of all that.
4. This is highly unusual, but it's the biggest factor in making me Forever Alone - severe anxiety around men I like, which makes me look even more unattractive, unlikeable, and undesirable around them. Most women who are shy/anxious still look decent and desirable enough - but my extreme anxiety around men I'm attracted to makes me look even more ugly/undesirable, for some reason. So they want nothing to do with me.
5. Having a "type" that generally doesn't like you back. I have very broad and lenient tastes, as any Forever Alone person would have - but that doesn't stop me from having at least some preferences. I've lived my life in an extremely artsy, hipster, educated, SJW place. The vibe of my area is just "me" through and through. But people don't see me as I am, due to stereotypes against me, in addition to how my anxiety manifests itself in my look/vibe. So the types I like, who are everywhere around me - the default type of person in my area - want nothing to do with me. That's despite the fact that I'm more "them" than they are.
I can try extremely hard to like and make do with someone who's the opposite of what I truly find appealing - but it becomes incredibly painful and unbearable for me. I've knowN of other women who have said the same thing.
Anyway, this forum doesn't allow thread deletions, so I'll leave it at that. This is yet another thread contaminating the internet. But it's all true for me, and hopefully gives people insight into the neverending struggles of the rare Forever Alone female.
