Controversy of woman have it easier

[Felix]

I respect women who at least admit to what's going on, and understand completely.

I'm not going to convince the foolish drones about this anymore. Only those who have an open mind, and don't live in illusions. Explaining this to a female with an average IQ is like talking to a brick wall, because her mind is caught up in reality TV shows, American idol and Fox news. She'll deny it's true, but deep down instinctively she knows it's true and she knows exactly what this is. When you sleep in your bed late at night, you say........"wow, that guy was absolutely right". And as for the ***** whipped guys who defend women about this, well, you are just man haters yourselves. As long as a man can have sex with a woman why would he care about 80% of his gender being dateless? It's no secret that the top 20% of guys who get women all the time will usually have up to 4 girlfriends at once. That's also a contributing factor. We are living in times where one gender (female) has been put totally above another gender (male). This is equality in women's eyes. Which is insane, in itself. Women are ultimately playing into some kind of genocidal, eugenics style catastrophe. Alot of women are playing into this, I don't think they realize what they're doing. But yeah, tell them. Just imagine if men and women were both clashing this same pedestal/niological/artifical/renaissance power at once? Women are lucky men don't have the same power they do, when it comes to the dating scene and pro-creation of the human race. Our species would be wiped out if we did.

When I point out the elephant in the room, people REPEL.

The phenomenon of female privilege, power, sexual power, and the dating scene and mating scene is worse then denying the holocaust. That's how controversial it is.

I wish I could reply to this, making some kind of awesome point that nobody has thought about before - unfortunately, I can't. I surely do feel as if women generally have it easier, but I can't fully express why. Girls just actually seem to have much less difficulty in picking up guys, and sure - it may not be exactly what you want, but the more you get.. the bigger the chance gets that eventually you will find what you're looking for, as opposed to guys such as me, who are practically invisible to women, and therefore don't get anything at all.

That's your instinct telling you the truth. No need to feel shamed about it.

I share some of your views... As time goes by, I realize that most weman act instictvly or emotionally... What they say they want in a guy is not what they are looking for. As you say they tend to go for guys who are with many girls, the "players"...

But I believe that's not entierly a woman's fault, most man out there don't know how to treat a girl and/or seduce her... So I think both sexes FAIL equally lol

If only weman valued more qualities like loyalty, respect, kindness, being a good person perhaps it would be more fare for most guys... But then that's not what they want... They are not turned on by those qualities... Some of then even WANT to be treated bad... That's partially why many of them end getting beaten up... sadly...

It's tuff... And it's not like the poor girls can use reason when it comes to relationships... us man also FAIL at that, maybe not that bad but...It's tuff...

 

[Senamian]

Felix you have a wonderful point of view. Thanks for sharing it's true... Neither gender is perfect. And really we shouldn't be playing the blame game.. Because then where do you go? Nowhere but around in a dizzying circle that'll never end. Until finally people start sayin "stop... What the heck are we doing? This is ridiculous. Let's come to a compromise." but that's next to impossible to get to (unless someone wants to prove me wrong)

Lol personally I don't like guys who abuse. Or girls who abuse... I've seen both sides, in my friend's relationships. Either way it's not pretty. And it's scary hard to find loyalty! Well... Maybe in my area.

 

[SofiasMami]

Bah, this was an interesting thread til the OP is revealed to be a minion of firebird.
Now we get the same old recycled male/male pretending to be a female giving us their supposedly earth-shattering views on women and we're supposed to listen in rapt attention...............snore....................oh, sorry, you were saying? Nah, I'll just put you on "ignore". Thank goodness you showed your true colors early on!

Teresa

 

[Senamian]

Oh for Pete sake I am not him. >< I live in Canada. I have a video to prove I am a she actually, two, as a response to firebird and his -unwatched- videos. plus, you could get someone to check the ip and it'd be different. I'll add the video soon... Once it loads to YouTube that is.

Trust me. I have never done the double post thinger. Reminds me way too much of when I was younger and seeing people do that. It's infuriating. And how are my views even close to his

 

[Felix]

Felix you have a wonderful point of view. Thanks for sharing it's true... Neither gender is perfect. And really we shouldn't be playing the blame game.. Because then where do you go? Nowhere but around in a dizzying circle that'll never end. Until finally people start sayin "stop... What the heck are we doing? This is ridiculous. Let's come to a compromise." but that's next to impossible to get to (unless someone wants to prove me wrong)

Lol personally I don't like guys who abuse. Or girls who abuse... I've seen both sides, in my friend's relationships. Either way it's not pretty. And it's scary hard to find loyalty! Well... Maybe in my area.

I'm glad you dislike abusers

This is an interesting topic in my opinion, but people tend not to be objectiveand blame the opposite sex. We all have our issues...

 

[AFrozenSoul]

I was hoping for a hard question. I think that it is best summed up by saying. We guard the desire of the opposite sex. In the end both sides want something from the other in a "relationship". Men want sex and women want an emotional... equivalent? In the end men have the choice to give out their heart and women have the choice to spread their legs. It becomes a power struggle. I think in the end it is perception. I would be willing to wager that if a girl, most any girl, walked around... hell a park and asked guys if they would have sex with her she would have no trouble having sex. Same with men, if they walked around asking girls to marry them I am sure it would not find long to find a taker. However, if we switched roles, men ask for sex and women ask for a commitment, both are pretty much doomed to failure.

I think another big thing is what qualifies each gender as an attractive mate. Ladies, no matter how much you scream and cry, no man is going to be attracted to your personality. This is the price you pay for being the approached. Unless you are a girl who rejects EVERY guy who approaches you and only dates guys who you approach. Then you might have a convince me that a guy does not want you for your appearance. Even then... well... you would have to be considered horrifically unattractive too. This is where women are also perceived to have an advantage.

We all know that one way to make yourself more attractive. You can simply workout and lose weight. Here are a couple of before and after pictures I stole from the Fitocracy Forum, a group I am a member of. So I am not showing anything that is not somewhat public. I personally think that this girl is the best example. Lets face reality, not many guys would have touched her. This girl, was not good-looking nor bad-looking before, but she is good-looking in her after. Those are the two best examples in my book. A few of the others on there do not really appeal to me personally. Any girl on here would have a VERY difficult time convincing me that these girls did not have a sudden spike in potential suitors.

However, all that I just said also works against women. That is where we men have an advantage. Looking good naked is really secondary for us. Yes it helps win battles, but it won't win the war. From everything I have read for men it is about our status. You know how social we are, how much money we make, what status we have. While more difficult to obtain, it is probably easier to maintain. Who we are matters more than our naked bodies. This is why many of us will see ugly guys with beautiful women.

Overall, I think things level out. Yes each of us has advantages and we can use them to our advantage. At the same time our advantages can be our disadvantages. A fat chick will have a very difficult time being a gold digger, and a shy guy will have a very difficult time being a player. I know women say shyness attracts them. However, if that were a case there would be a whole different breed of sterotypes surrounding players.

 

[Senamian]

Very interesting views... And plus you explain why. If I had asked that question here(been there done that never doing THAT again) to guys my age here I'd get such... Stupid answers that were not based on opinion but rather being "funny" (whatever that is) and offensive.

Lol and for me... I'm shy. So me approaching a shy guy......... Well.... Um..... .... Yeah no don't think I can lol. This is actually the firs video I've had of me... Since I don't like to do videos but hey I think this time it's worth my time so when I post is sorry for being quiet... Or figity.... That's me... Lol

 

[firebird85]

Bah, this was an interesting thread til the OP is revealed to be a minion of firebird.
Now we get the same old recycled male/male pretending to be a female giving us their supposedly earth-shattering views on women and we're supposed to listen in rapt attention...............snore....................oh, sorry, you were saying? Nah, I'll just put you on "ignore". Thank goodness you showed your true colors early on!

Teresa

Thanks for displaying your idiocracy. :club:

 

[Senamian]

Firebird. Obviously she is pointing out you've dug yourself more than a hole on this site... So me backing you up is 1. A shock and apparently 2. Means something is up. Which then makes me wonder, why I would try to keep these threads free of arguments and rudeness when you yourself won't respect that.
Truthfully he kept showin me messages he has had on here. I've decided to sign up, one because questions are good to ask and two because that way I could put my two cents in.

Which makes me ask... Did Firebird do the double logging?

 

[firebird85]

I never did any double logging of the sort. Back when I made that old thread, another girl (who's name I won't mention) threw out all wild accusations about me like calling me a troll because I disagreed with her, then when 2 other guys came and backed me up she got all butt hurt for getting proved wrong and accused me and them of being the same person. It was quite funny actually. I've never seen such childish behavior. Like telling the teacher on a kid who steals all the pencils. People will resort to anything once you call them out, or say something that describes them (in this case, being shallow). Well hey, if someone describes something about you (while not directly) and you don't like it...........too bad. Maybe these people should debate me face to face and quit the ad hominem attacks. But again, the phenomenon of women conspiring or unknowingly playing into a corrupted system against a certain percentage of men, causing them to be dateless against their own will, and having unfair advantages and one gender being above the other in this most crucial part of life itself (in this case, dating, relationships, marriage, pro-creation) is the most taboo and controversial subject that has ever existed.

Women aren't listening to the message. They listen to how it's delivered, which is wrong. Like I said, I'm not going to debate this with people who want to flat out deny and dismiss everything. Watch all the videos on inconvenientruth1 first and then when you are ready to be mature I'll listen to your side.

(this is directed towards the people who despise and disagree with me, not only on this forum, but everywhere)

 

[Senamian]

.... I'm not watching videos named THAT. truthfully. Because, Firebird, if you blame media for playing a roll in "female dominance" then aren't you also under the influence of media? Just sayin'. Pointing out the obvious...
And so if I don't watch the videos I am NOT mature? Which then your message is going through bad... "conspiring".....

Okay now I wish the video would load to YouTube (stubborn thing). Because you definitely need to watch/listen.

I also want to have you understand you are sounding EXACTLY like a set of twins I know. They bashed their mother, and made their sister cry because "they" the "men" are genetically and mentally superior to us inferior women. When that video is up, I want you to do what I ask you (and those with similar views) to do. And I want you to listen to what I say, okay? You won't listen to me via email, or messenger/msn, and obviously not here.

And you KNOW I know where you live. Don't make me make a fool of you in person, Firebird. THAT guys view is HIS view. You're using it as YOUR ideology which then the same media you bash you use... But you'll use what suits your thoughts and what you think is right. I wanted to know YOUR view but I'm getting "a dude from YouTube" views

 

[ladysigh]

I never did any double logging of the sort. Back when I made that old thread, another girl (who's name I won't mention) threw out all wild accusations about me like calling me a troll because I disagreed with her, then when 2 other guys came and backed me up she got all butt hurt for getting proved wrong and accused me and them of being the same person. It was quite funny actually. I've never seen such childish behavior. Like telling the teacher on a kid who steals all the pencils. People will resort to anything once you call them out, or say something that describes them (in this case, being shallow). Well hey, if someone describes something about you (while not directly) and you don't like it...........too bad. Maybe these people should debate me face to face and quit the ad hominem attacks. But again, the phenomenon of women conspiring or unknowingly playing into a corrupted system against a certain percentage of men, causing them to be dateless against their own will, and having unfair advantages and one gender being above the other in this most crucial part of life itself (in this case, dating, relationships, marriage, pro-creation) is the most taboo and controversial subject that has ever existed.

Women aren't listening to the message. They listen to how it's delivered, which is wrong. Like I said, I'm not going to debate this with people who want to flat out deny and dismiss everything. Watch all the videos on inconvenientruth1 first and then when you are ready to be mature I'll listen to your side.

Ahhhhhhh, so your little "friend" did not read the whole thread, just what you decided to share with him/her/it (could be a bot)...well then, by all means, let's show him/her/it just how well you were "proven" right and who was the one guilty of "such childish behavior":

http://www.alonelylife.com/thread-my-extensive-rant-on-women-relationships-dating-pua-and-society

(Apologies to the mods if this is forbidden but someone did already share this link in the "koalas" thread so I'm assuming its okay.)

 

[Senamian]

One, I am not a "little friend". I'm his ex. "never had a girlfriend" Firebird, what am I, chop liver
Two, not a bot. One strange being did tell me I was east Indian. Then I was a Japanese super computer (only because I know a little common sense?). Then I was a Nazi. But haven't been called a bot yet. And I am a SHE.

And I never said he was "right". I was pointing out to him, that if sexism wasn't really what he wanted to get across then he needs to learn to reword. Well that and stop using "dude on YouTube"'s point of view.

And we are getting off topic on that. This about everyone's views, side for guys, side for girls, centered in the middle...


And what I've seen there are the ones who say "yeah I think girls do have it easy" and have at least added a "because" in there actually giving decent explanations... Then there are the ones who say "no, they don't because..." and finally to the "both have it easy AND hard". Firebird, you however have An inexplicable third view that isn't of your own but of "some guys you know". I also skimmed over one part I caught now, saying you NEVER had a girlfriend, NEVER had a relationship. How is it, I remember the two songs you adored when we were together (last time I checked YOU don't remember much other than "saying goodbye" which never happened), or that you'd tell me about your sister, school, how hard it was... Or that you disliked me having guy friends and in the end where it spiraled YOU disappeared, and like I promised I waited and when I gave up waiting you showed up thinking we were still together?

So don't go telling people NO ONE cared. Do not go telling people I never exist because BAM this is me, here I am, and obviously I do exist. So really you cannot even use your life experience to YOUR advantage because you've caugt yourself up in such a twisted world, you've forgotten anything GOOD. You've tricked your mind into believing ALL women hate you. And because of that you'll be stuck for a very long time without anyone... Because who wants to be with someone who thinks they hate them?

 

[Equinox]

Hater's gonna hate, troll's gonna troll.

Run, everybody. I smell more gibberish coming up.

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P.S. I thought this jerk was banned because of his jerkism?

 

[Senamian]

Sad thing is Equinox, I've known Firebird since he was 16 (no friends my *** >.> ) and this really... is surprising to see from him. I do wish he was still like he was back then... Kinder, more respectful, and actually not too bad to be around. And Firebird do not say "that's because I found the truth" because then you sound like one of those people saying "OHH MAAHHH GAWWDD THE WORLD'S GON' END TONIIIGHT!!!" then running around flailing your arms with a maniacal laugh to top it off.

p.s. he was banned, but not permanently.

 

[firebird85]

Hater's gonna hate, troll's gonna troll.

Run, everybody. I smell more gibberish coming up.

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P.S. I thought this jerk was banned because of his jerkism?

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Still butt hurt?

 

[Senamian]

Firebird, knock it OFF. Seriously. You may keep digging that damn hole but hey I'm not going there with ya. And she DOES have a point OBVIOUSLY about you being a jerk if THIS IS HOW YOU ACT. You say we are immature? LOOK IN THE MIRROR. All the words people have said to YOU you'r using against EVERYONE ELSE. KNOCK IT THE **** OFF.

You're lucky this computer fails and the video won't load. But that's a video for you TO you. And when it does load please excuse being 1. quiet because well I do rent. And 2. for somehow going blank in spots because I JUST woke up then xDD I am now loading it to Youtube.

And here is a test to determine everything you say is true. This goes for ANYONE. Go up to your mother (I mean it, do it) or call her or whatever... and tell her, "Mother, I do NOT care for the sacrifices you made, or the fact you went through labor for me. You are an insignificant female, who should be more worried about cooking and cleaning the house. Your not a human being JUST A WOMAN. Im smarter, stronger, and better than you in ANY way."

IF you can say that, to her, then I take back all that I say. how's that? Until then SHOW RESPECT to other users on here.

Also, don't be emailing me saying I am getting too personal. If you cannot accept the hardcore harsh reality of life, or let alone people knowing you HAD a relationship which you deny, then maybe next time try not lying. The things you say on here is THAT GUY's view NOT yours. You've brainwashed yourself. And you expect me to sit there and listen because "maybe I'm different" but the thing is, I worked out everything you said in different ways and yeah the message isn't coming across apparently as what you supposedly want. Don't get mad at me saying this. You know me. I'm not going to sit on the side lines, I refuse to take sides, but I will stand for the people who don't deserve what either or said, or did. okay? If you are not willing to accept this, how do you expect anything good to happen? If you are so determined on belieivng "dude from youtube" why even bother with ME? Because hey I am female, I do have a voice, I do have thoughts, and though my IQ is probably average I am NOT a brick wall. Don't say "I'm different from the others" because everyone is different from each other. That's what makes us unique, that's what makes us US.

 

[TheSolitaryMan]

Women aren't listening to the message. They listen to how it's delivered, which is wrong. Like I said, I'm not going to debate this with people who want to flat out deny and dismiss everything. Watch all the videos on inconvenientruth1 first and then when you are ready to be mature I'll listen to your side.

(this is directed towards the people who despise and disagree with me, not only on this forum, but everywhere)

The thing I find frustrating is I'm both a male AND I've listened to the videos on that site before, and I still disagree fundamentally with your points.

I don't despise you, I just don't think what you're saying is true, I'm sorry. I can't lie and say I agree. I honestly think there is no merit in what you're describing.

Those guys mentioning these "renaissances" and complaining how girls no longer flirt are talking ****. Girls flirt quite a lot. In fact, my problem is getting through such large amounts of flirting to get something with substance - still a problem, but definitely not of the nature you describe.

By claiming people who aren't listening are stupid and/or have low IQ (as you did earlier), you're just insulting the people you're trying to communicate with. Do you think I'm stupid too? Perhaps it's best you don't answer that, actually.

 

[Senamian]

Women aren't listening to the message. They listen to how it's delivered, which is wrong. Like I said, I'm not going to debate this with people who want to flat out deny and dismiss everything. Watch all the videos on inconvenientruth1 first and then when you are ready to be mature I'll listen to your side.

(this is directed towards the people who despise and disagree with me, not only on this forum, but everywhere)

The thing I find frustrating is I'm both a male AND I've listened to the videos on that site before, and I still disagree fundamentally with your points.

I don't despise you, I just don't think what you're saying is true, I'm sorry. I can't lie and say I agree. I honestly think there is no merit in what you're describing.

Those guys mentioning these "renaissances" and complaining how girls no longer flirt are talking ****. Girls flirt quite a lot. In fact, my problem is getting through such large amounts of flirting to get something with substance - still a problem, but definitely not of the nature you describe.

By claiming people who aren't listening are stupid and/or have low IQ (as you did earlier), you're just insulting the people you're trying to communicate with. Do you think I'm stupid too? Perhaps it's best you don't answer that, actually.

I agree with you. Thing is, I KNOW Firebird. Or at least I thought I did... Unless the last... 4 and some years was a lie. Have to stop using references like that...and for once just stop, take a breathe, and think. Do you REALLY hate ME, Firebird? Do you really think you "never" had a relationship? because in that case I am a figment of your imagination, and really, that equals "lonliness a guy feels that's never had a girlfriend" because it's the feeling of NOT existing to someone.

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Firebird, I'm not trying to go after you saying you are stupid or worthless or anything like that. I'm just feeling that you are just...using someone else's words as your own. And you shouldn't be. I don't see why you'd be ashamed of the relationship we had, I don't see why you have to come across as so rude to other people. Yeah I can have bad days and be a ***** sometimes, or may not word things properly, but I try to explain, I try to cool off, I try not arguing. Takes TWO to argue. If one stops, then you leave the other ranting.
I don't hate you, like you think. Obiously I don't otherwise would I actually be talking to you again? Probably not. Very few people I actually know do I permanently never want to see or speak to again and those people are the ones I'd really like to bash in the face -.- As for you, yes you really are being obnoxious on here and you think everyone here is against you... we aren't. we are against the words you are typing. I don't agree with "that guy" on youtube. I never will. Because it makes no sense to me, it sounds ridiculous and it basically (and obviously) just suckers people in to believe ONLY that and never accept the opinions of billions of people. Just that one small handful.

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FINE firebird. You wont talk here, only on ******* msn. I tried coming on here, seeing people's views, contrast to yours. ALL you want is for me NOT to bring up the past, NOT to get personal, NOT to know you. then fine. I dont know you. never will. WHy bother right? you complain about being lonely well hey if you stopped pushing ME away you would actually have had a chance. but hey. why bother right? Mind as well not take chances on someone who is always going to argue with me.

End of this discussion, I'm not coming back on for your ******* thrill ride.

 

[AFrozenSoul]

Very interesting views... And plus you explain why. If I had asked that question here(been there done that never doing THAT again) to guys my age here I'd get such... Stupid answers that were not based on opinion but rather being "funny" (whatever that is) and offensive.

Lol and for me... I'm shy. So me approaching a shy guy......... Well.... Um..... .... Yeah no don't think I can lol. This is actually the firs video I've had of me... Since I don't like to do videos but hey I think this time it's worth my time so when I post is sorry for being quiet... Or figity.... That's me... Lol

This is why there are a lot of guys on here who have never had a girlfriend. We are victims of the dark side of our advantage, we have to approach. This is where girls get an advantage. If you are attractive, all you really have to do is be around men to get a man. Hence why being shy is not a deal breaker for girls.