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eternalone

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Hello everyone, what do you think about my opinion on the "love" and "relationships" ? Do you agree or disagree with me? The intentions of this are not to offend anyone or pick up on people, if so - i am sorry. Just sharing and asking if there are other people who think like me.

Love does not exist, love is a dellusional lie which deludes minds to the point where they lose their true thoughts and minds. The one's who believe in that fake so called "feeling" sooner or later will understand the destructive weight of it and experience the pain of the broken illusions which it has been feeding them and then some of them may not even recover and its all because of the lies that their brains feed them to feel better. I feel really sorry about the people who are "in love", they live a lie.. a pathetic lie which makes them bow and kneel to it with the only purpose to drain the life out of them and make them feel worthless. That is the "LOVE". It drives me crazy how everyone is bragging so much about the "love" and how "great" and "magnificent" it is, that's disgusting and it rumbles my stomach from inside almost as i want to puke when i hear some of them.
"Love is the greatest feeling in life and it happens to everyone, sooner or later.. if its meant it'll happen, probably your love waits somewhere right now" - complete and utter ******** made to console people and make them feel better. But no truth consists in any of these words, that cant be just true ... love and truth cannot co-op, they do only in the people's imaginations and the fairy tales (produced and composed by their imaginations) but the truth is really a different story, from all the fairy tales. Love does not exist like they all talk and say in the fairy tales and movies, its simple as that - it does not. So to all the so called "love seekers" - you can stop doing that because its useless and at the end it'll render meaningless into the face of this futility, with a wasted time and energy for the vain outcomes. Now to the so called "love supporters" i wont say anything simply because they're already too overwhelmed wtih living a lie(s?) and feeding themselves with illusions, i sincere pity them, i feel really really deep and genuine compassion about them.. they must not know what they're doing and how painful would it get to one point and then they'd regret ever crossing the paths of this dangerous so called "LOVE". For me the lovers are like a schizophrenic patients, they live illusions and the worst part is that they genuine believe in these illusions and lies, its all tied so strong that even after these illusions are crushed on pieces, they still do believe in them and pick them piece of piece, trying to console themselves that they did something wrong or the other one did? - no, its not who is wrong and who is right, it is simple - it was never real - an illusion, that is. It was never real to get to a point where someone was wrong or right, stop the illusions and live a truth or live in a lie and get destroyed - that's the choices every human being faces and the results are - broken hearts? or a stable mental condition - you have to choose it. I do know and im completely aware of what a lot of people might think about what i say/think .. that i am bitter and hater? not at all, because all that im trying to do is to help others before its too late, not everyone has the privilage to receive an actual help before something has (is about) to happen.
I can only hope that some would appreciate it (appreciate me?).
 
Well, you're right about one thing.....people are going to think you're bitter.

How do you know that your opinion right here isn't a delusional lie and love is real? Tell us your story, have you experienced love to make you feel this way or has it evaded you? Are you talking just romantic love or any type of love?
 
TheRealCallie said:
Well, you're right about one thing.....people are going to think you're bitter.

How do you know that your opinion right here isn't a delusional lie and love is real?  Tell us your story, have you experienced love to make you feel this way or has it evaded you?  Are you talking just romantic love or any type of love?

I'm relating to the romantic love.. and yeah i've experienced it sadly, i did and it happened too many times so if it was once it wouldnt form my opinion like that, just from once but when every time it occurs, i really do genuine believe it and i think it's all the same.
 
Personally, I believe in unconditional love. Regardless of what happens between two people, if you truly loved them, nothing changes that. I have been in love twice in my life and I got my heart broken both times, the first was an unwanted breakup on both sides, life just got in the way, the second was...well, a little more complicated. That doesn't change the love I had for them. I still love them to this day and I always will.
If you can dismiss love that easily after a breakup, I have to question whether it was love in the first place. But, that is, of course, just my opinion. I know others have different opinions. I know others will agree with you.

Although, maybe you just haven't found the right person yet.
 
TheRealCallie said:
Personally, I believe in unconditional love.  Regardless of what happens between two people, if you truly loved them, nothing changes that. I have been in love twice in my life and I got my heart broken both times, the first was an unwanted breakup on both sides, life just got in the way, the second was...well, a little more complicated.   That doesn't change the love I had for them.  I still love them to this day and I always will.
If you can dismiss love that easily after a breakup, I have to question whether it was love in the first place.  But, that is, of course, just my opinion.  I know others have different opinions.  I know others will agree with you.  

Although, maybe you just haven't found the right person yet.

Look i aint trying to argue or something, but i wonder how can you love them after all and if you're over? I dont believe in the unconditional love nor in the cliche's such as "you havent found the right person yet" and stuff like that, i guess we are different and that's the charm of this world. And i didnt dismiss the love, i simply deny it after opening my eyes and mind but i only regret that it was too late. This surely would prevent me from being hurt and ensure my safety.
 
Well, look at it this way. There is likely someone you love non romantically, right? Your mother, a sibling, a cousin, a friend. Do they always do everything you want them to do? Do you never argue or get into fights with them? Does that make you change how you feel about them?

No one is perfect, everyone has faults. The breakups weren't entirely on them, part of it was on me. **** happens, but that doesn't change the fact that we shared something together, that we loved each other, that they were a huge part of my life and nothing can change that. I was with them for a reason and while it didn't last, while there were problems and I got hurt, that shouldn't and doesn't negate what we had or how we felt about each other. Do I want to be with either person....no, not anymore, but I do still love them. We just didn't work out.

Not to argue with you, but honestly, what you are saying sounds more like a coping mechanism/a wall you built to protect yourself than a belief. But, that's okay too. Again, just my opinion.
 
TheRealCallie said:
Well, look at it this way.  There is likely someone you love non romantically, right?  Your mother, a sibling, a cousin, a friend.  Do they always do everything you want them to do?  Do you never argue or get into fights with them?  Does that make you change how you feel about them?  

No one is perfect, everyone has faults.  The breakups weren't entirely on them, part of it was on me.  **** happens, but that doesn't change the fact that we shared something together, that we loved each other, that they were a huge part of my life and nothing can change that.  I was with them for a reason and while it didn't last, while there were problems and I got hurt, that shouldn't and doesn't negate what we had or how we felt about each other.  Do I want to be with either person....no, not anymore, but I do still love them.  We just didn't work out.  

Not to argue with you, but honestly, what you are saying sounds more like a coping mechanism/a wall you built to protect yourself than a belief.  But, that's okay too.  Again, just my opinion.

It could be a wall which can protect me and my welfare. And well me and you, we are different as hell as we can witness.. but that doesnt mean i do not respect and your opinion(s?). 
The thing you said about the perfection is true, but it is not only about the break ups but everything (more like). For me, personally it is not about someone doing something or not doing something.. i just really do realized that being "in love" resembles being in oblivion, too. You dont really look at it realistically nor at the person you're with. Not rational at all, but more like emotionally which results into bad outcome(s?) and eventually people getting hurt. Do we really need it in our life(s), if at the end you and the other person would get hurt? As you said no one and nothing is perfect in this imperfect world, therefore it will never be ok and it will always lead to someone getting hurt.
I hope, you didnt get me wrong but i really do not argue.
 
TheRealCallie said:
Personally, I believe in unconditional love.  Regardless of what happens between two people, if you truly loved them, nothing changes that. I have been in love twice in my life and I got my heart broken both times, the first was an unwanted breakup on both sides, life just got in the way, the second was...well, a little more complicated.   That doesn't change the love I had for them.  I still love them to this day and I always will.
If you can dismiss love that easily after a breakup, I have to question whether it was love in the first place.  But, that is, of course, just my opinion.  I know others have different opinions.  I know others will agree with you.  

Although, maybe you just haven't found the right person yet.

This describes how I feel towards a couple of people from the past as well. :O

Even if the desire for romance or getting back together or whatever else is gone.
 
eternalone said:
I feel really sorry about the people who are "in love", they live a lie.. a pathetic lie which makes them bow and kneel to it with the only purpose to drain the life out of them and make them feel worthless. That is the "LOVE". It drives me crazy how everyone is bragging so much about the "love" and how "great" and "magnificent" it is, that's disgusting and it rumbles my stomach from inside almost as i want to puke when i hear some of them.

I completely agree. I believe there is "love" but it is mostly attraction and a little bit of lying to yourself. It is a matter of how long you choose to lie to yourself. That "feeling" fades.  And it may move to a lesser kind of love. A family type of love where you no longer really desire the person but want to be around them but that technically imho is not love proper. It is a kinship that you may feel for anything, a human, a pet etc. 

This is how it all got started. Back in the day no one believed in marriages due to love. Marriages were contracts. Women could not work so someone had to take care of them. It was either dad or a husband. Dads "sold" their daughters to men. Men got a woman to have *** and children with and women were taken care of forever. Dads routinely provided "bribes" or dowries.  People got married and had children for tons of reasons OTHER than "love" - usually power.  This is literally the way it was up until very recently. 

As women got power society had to come up with *some* BS to justify marriage. So they went with the easiest thing... that people who were in "LOVE" should get married. After all, at that time people didn't live that long and most people can survive for 20 years with someone else. Also men typically could have mistresses so that kept things going longer.

But then, people started living longer. Women refused to put up with mistresses (believing that other massive lie Monogamy) and now you have an untenable situation. There is no choice but to allow divorce.   After allowing that... 50% of marriages got that and now.. we are really wondering what the heck marriage is for and if there really *IS* love like they sell it.

But you see there are far too many social constructs that are dependent on "fake" love and marriage. To start there is the wedding industry that makes people feel they should have a wedding like Princess Diana.  Then one of the only parties that you ever have that nets you a lot of things is your wedding. So most people get money to start a life that way. Then religion stays doing things with Weddings and then don't forget the lawyers and the courts.... and of course, movies and books... just to name a few. 

All these things must continue the "love is the greatest thing ever" story or they will be putting themselves out of business.  Imagine if society en mass started rejecting this falicy? People would be happy, calm, reasonable... open to whatever people could give or whatever that person offers you.
 
Yes. Exactly, i do agree with all of what you said. Even though it is disgusting and sad, i dont like it.. but the truth is above all. You're right about everything.
 
There are different kinds of love. So to say it flatout doesn't exist, I don't know about that.
 
VanillaCreme said:
There are different kinds of love. So to say it flatout doesn't exist, I don't know about that.

To be honest i thought people would know i talk about the romantic love as i post it in the "Relationships" section.
 
Love is real, strong, and lasting.

However, all too often, people confuse "attraction" and "excitement" with love.
 
It is safe to say that some instances described as "love" are nothing but a delusion that facilitates reproductive instincts to manifest. Better be aware of what you are experiencing.
 
eternalone said:
VanillaCreme said:
There are different kinds of love. So to say it flatout doesn't exist, I don't know about that.

To be honest i thought people would know i talk about the romantic love as i post it in the "Relationships" section.

I think there are different degrees of that as well.
 
bleed_the_freak said:
Love is real, strong, and lasting.

However, all too often, people confuse "attraction" and "excitement" with love.

This exactly.


VanillaCreme said:
eternalone said:
VanillaCreme said:
There are different kinds of love. So to say it flatout doesn't exist, I don't know about that.

To be honest i thought people would know i talk about the romantic love as i post it in the "Relationships" section.

I think there are different degrees of that as well.

Indeed there are.  A friendship is a relationship, as is the relationships you have with you family. 


I also want to add that just because you aren't with someone anymore doesn't mean that you aren't still attracted to them.  Sometimes, **** just doesn't work out.
 
What passes for love earlier on is likely just infatuation, but maybe that's a needed for something like familial love to develop later on. The "delusion" is possibly a necessary one.
 

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