Is porn an art? If it is, why has it destroyed some marriages?

[Lonesome Crow]

I grew up in CA...I still live in CA. That's why California girls are still dime a dozen to me.
I pretty much fucken california girls all my life with the exeptions of my ex wf...
I guess...you gatta fall in love with a country gal at least once before you died.
And a couple of canadian chicks while i was living in Vancuver for a while...gotta try a couple
of canadian chicks too...I guess.

Im living in Ventura. Theres beaches and board walks here.
While it's not as bussied as San Degio's beaches. There's still plenty local beach blondes here.
There's actaully lots of pretty chicks here. Its a one big ass city all connected with millions
of people. Hundred of thousands of beautiful babes

I was never a fat little kid..Ive never been fat my entire life. So beats the hell out of me
what the **** your talking about.

anyway...as my firends and i were at the board walk eariler this evening during sunset....
There were 3 chicks....all drop dead gorgeous. All models type.
They were having photo shoots of themselve. They had thier own photo equipments
and wasnt exactly manatures or rookies ( NO MEN WERE INVOLVED)

I see hawt babes taking photos of themselves all the times at the beach.
Some just for fun and giggles...others probably have bussiness intentions.

SEX SELLS...as it alway had wheather you like it or not.
My piont is....jusr like violent, sex and call ******** people see on TV.
Poeple used to complain about that **** too....back in the daYs before the net,...
Back when .,..when the words "*******, hoes, ass, etc..etc" wasnt so fucken common on TV.
Today...its the fucken norm or acceptible.
The same old matha fucken Answer...if you dont like that **** turn off your matha fucken TV or PC.
If you dont like it up the butt...get the **** out.

Im also a head banging lead guitar player. I'm your fucken bad boy. Ex miliatry...been arrested serveral times etc..etc
I dont have one tatoo or body piercing on me.....
Tattoos , percing are fucken fads now...everybody have them...gramma, babies, nerds..etc
It a rarity to not have tatoos now aday...nothing against tatoos...Art i guess
I CAN THINK ON MY OWN and These are my CHIOCES. it dosnt matter either way to anyone else...but I know for me
it about me being able to make my own decisions and being ok with me.

 

[miloman]

I grew up in CA...I still live in CA. That's why California girls are still dime a dozen to me.
I pretty much fucken california girls all my life with the exeptions of my ex wf...
I guess...you gatta fall in love with a country gal at least once before you died.
And a couple of canadian chicks while i was living in Vancuver for a while...gotta try a couple
of canadian chicks too...I guess.

Im living in Ventura. Theres beaches and board walks here.
While it's not as bussied as San Degio's beaches. There's still plenty local beach blondes here.
There's actaully lots of pretty chicks here. Its a one big ass city all connected with millions
of people. Hundred of thousands of beautiful babes

I was never a fat little kid..Ive never been fat my entire life. So beats the hell out of me
what the **** your talking about.

anyway...as my firends and i were at the board walk eariler this evening during sunset....
There were 3 chicks....all drop dead gorgeous. All models type.
They were having photo shoots of themselve. They had thier own photo equipments
and wasnt exactly manatures or rookies ( NO MEN WERE INVOLVED)

I see hawt babes taking photos of themselves all the times at the beach.
Some just for fun and giggles...others probably have bussiness intentions.

SEX SELLS...as it alway had wheather you like it or not.
My piont is....jusr like violent, sex and call ******** people see on TV.
Poeple used to complain about that **** too....back in the daYs before the net,...
Back when .,..when the words "*******, hoes, ass, etc..etc" wasnt so fucken common on TV.
Today...its the fucken norm or acceptible.
The same old matha fucken Answer...if you dont like that **** turn off your matha fucken TV or PC.
If you dont like it up the butt...get the **** out.

Im also a head banging lead guitar player. I'm your fucken bad boy. Ex miliatry...been arrested serveral times etc..etc
I dont have one tatoo or body piercing on me.....
Tattoos , percing are fucken fads now...everybody have them...gramma, babies, nerds..etc
It a rarity to not have tatoos now aday...nothing against tatoos...Art i guess
I CAN THINK ON MY OWN and These are my CHIOCES. it dosnt matter either way to anyone else...but I know for me
it about me being able to make my own decisions and being ok with me.

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WOW, I don't know what to say to all that, I am not sure of what you are saying or if you even want a reply,,and to what part. Sounds like you are fine with where your life is taking you and your not "LONESOME" at all ! As for me, I am lonesome,,and the last time someone tried to crack my ass, "1980" I cracked his drivers side window with his head recieving my #10 double "D" bootheel in his jaw,,Made a mess on that hwy with that pretty yellow Contenental slamming into that culvert pipe. I politely reached into the vack seat where I had put my backpack and sleeping bagg when he picked me up outside of "MorganCity, Louisiana", Opened my door, asked YOU alright now? he nodded and mumbled yes, I stepped out, thanked him for the ride and put my thumb back out and continued my trip by walking. I had been on the road about a week coming from L.A. in search for a decent job, The last day in L.A. I watched um film a shot of the old TV series HILLSTREET BLUES and while watching got a tip from a guy, "they are hiring offshore workers down in Louisiana for $14.00Hr and all you can eat! L.A. was fine, the sunshined most the time, and the feeling was laid back" As for me Now,, I don't want that kinda **** in my life anymore,,takes to much work to get my boots on!, let alone kick some DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS ASS, and at my age,,5years, meals and cot and I'm out! Just shoot the ******'s and bury um.
I grew up in CA...I still live in CA. That's why California girls are still dime a dozen to me.
I pretty much fucken california girls all my life with the exeptions of my ex wf...
I guess...you gatta fall in love with a country gal at least once before you died.
And a couple of canadian chicks while i was living in Vancuver for a while...gotta try a couple
of canadian chicks too...I guess.

Im living in Ventura. Theres beaches and board walks here.
While it's not as bussied as San Degio's beaches. There's still plenty local beach blondes here.
There's actaully lots of pretty chicks here. Its a one big ass city all connected with millions
of people. Hundred of thousands of beautiful babes

I was never a fat little kid..Ive never been fat my entire life. So beats the hell out of me
what the **** your talking about.

anyway...as my firends and i were at the board walk eariler this evening during sunset....
There were 3 chicks....all drop dead gorgeous. All models type.
They were having photo shoots of themselve. They had thier own photo equipments
and wasnt exactly manatures or rookies ( NO MEN WERE INVOLVED)

I see hawt babes taking photos of themselves all the times at the beach.
Some just for fun and giggles...others probably have bussiness intentions.

SEX SELLS...as it alway had wheather you like it or not.
My piont is....jusr like violent, sex and call ******** people see on TV.
Poeple used to complain about that **** too....back in the daYs before the net,...
Back when .,..when the words "*******, hoes, ass, etc..etc" wasnt so fucken common on TV.
Today...its the fucken norm or acceptible.
The same old matha fucken Answer...if you dont like that **** turn off your matha fucken TV or PC.
If you dont like it up the butt...get the **** out.

Im also a head banging lead guitar player. I'm your fucken bad boy. Ex miliatry...been arrested serveral times etc..etc
I dont have one tatoo or body piercing on me.....
Tattoos , percing are fucken fads now...everybody have them...gramma, babies, nerds..etc
It a rarity to not have tatoos now aday...nothing against tatoos...Art i guess
I CAN THINK ON MY OWN and These are my CHIOCES. it dosnt matter either way to anyone else...but I know for me
it about me being able to make my own decisions and being ok with me.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Lomesome Crow was the original record label and the first album of a German metal 80s band call the Scorpions.....

The art work on most of their album covers consist of hot sexy women in various sexual arousing poses.
The lyrics to most of their songs are relationships related the love, the lust and the heartaches of it all.

My faviorite abum is LoveDrive.
Theres alternate covers for that.
The one I have is of a man in the back seat of a limo with a sexy woman. Grabing her ****S with bubble gum
stuck to his hands N her titays.hahahaaaa
Holiday , Alway Somewhere are 2 very ballads love songs..

Never been to La. Lived in Albeline thou.
Lusianna Rain is cool heartache song by Tom petty I used to listen to while getting totally drunk..drowning myself in my heartaches and sorrows becuase of the love of a woman....

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Geeze the fucken whizzzz...
wtf dude...its like u wanna compete
of who can be the most miseriable
son of a bitch on this planet so people can understand you or fit into your fucken miserable world.
Thats some really sick ****.....

Self pity got me nowhere..

" Ive been down to the bottom of every bottle bottle...yeah..yeah..Oh no."

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Anway...I was talking to a chick yesterday. She approched me.
She was very friendly...talkative...etc..etc
She got me to open up a little of whats
going on with me...
At the end of it all...She was trying to
convert me...Jesus this..Jesus that..

So after that I was thinking....
Show me your fucken ****.
One good conversion deserves another. LMAO..

 

[miloman]

There is no competing when you were born and lived 1/3 of your up and down the BEAUTIFUL west coast and spent the other 2/3rd's in a west Texas dry ****** dusty ass place like this, just doing your time raising the ones you brought into the world, waiting for the day you could take um with you to see those people and place. There all grown up now,,they have no intrest in all those places I told them about and where I was at my best. I bought a few acres in the Freemont NF a few years ago while My eldest son was doing his 5yr stretch in the state ,"Gang bangin". He's out now soon to be released from his parole. He don't want to move or take that trip, My Daughter, lives in Wichitha Falls, she has no intrest either, and my youngest son is looking at 99 to life and is only 26, never been married, never had a real Job home or a legally obtained car earned with sweat= $. The story is 30yrs long and way to long to tell, basically
I AM THE MOST MESIRABLE SON OF GOOD "deceased" WOMEN on this ****** UP PLANET,,, it's mine and own it like the **** hole I live in. I built it and I built this rat hole too. there is no competetion,,except with myself to turn it into something good, But the ROOT's are deep and dug in,,,it took 30yrs to grow this mess and killin or changing it aint gonna be easy.
I use to listen to the scorpions too, still have a CD somewhere around this place. Never cared for petty though, something about that nazzzzzzzzzel tone of his. Now Joe Walsh I could listen to him again. I lost My Lic, Now I don't drive,,lalalala,,,what ever, gotta go, I am in the middle of getting ready to take my Horse,,"in a trailer" back up to Oregon to the land and get drunk with the Natives!

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Oh, one more thing, I am not trying to take anyone down to this miserable place with me, Hell, I've gott enough load,, I don't wanna share someone else with me or mine with there's. What I want and haven't been able to find, is help getting moved away from this bitch, short of pileing it all up and throwing a match to it "IF I COULD do so with out MORE regrett" I am stuck,, I live 19 miles from town,,can't have a succesful garage sale. I can't market the damm place with all the stuff inside. Some of it I could part with, But most of it was heired to me, from heirs to my Mom and Dad to me. Ya just can't burn it and those offspring of my loins they would just give it to the ex-with horns to profit from selling, BULL CRAP! HaHa, the friends I have left that ARE not dead,, are thieves and liars or somewhere in between, so can't fathem giving it to them,,, ya see my position is that I hass no posititon with into which to deal with! I say's there's son,,, what we has here is a failure to communicate

 

[Lonesome Crow]

My eldest daughter Jordan still Lives in Albilene TX. The last time I held Jordan in my arms was when she was only a toddler. A woman I can get over but losing Jordan took the lights out of me...
No amount of money, women and wine
took that pains away from me.
Id cried myself to sleep everymight for years..I couldnt bare that pain..so I drinking myself into a BLACKOUT or party everynight or stay up to numb myself out...The only time I could sleep was to pass out after days or weeks of binge partying. I made over 1600 p week take home pay...

Most of my life to be able to reconcile or have some sort of relationship with my duaghter.

Jordan told me theres a reason for everything the last time I spoke to her this past year....
I returned to CA after a terrible deviorce 21 yrs ago. I got arrested fighting for Jordan...while Renae was Prenant with Kimberly.
Kimberly was given up for adoptions because Renae got very scared and didnt know how she could raise our duaghter.
.

 

[Ghost Boy]

Wasn't this thread about Porn being art or it ruining marriages and everything?...

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Renae was my fiancee..we were to wed before I even when to TX...

Anyway..like Jordan said...theres a reason for everthing...why I return to CA.
Kimmie came into this world as who she is....
I love Kimmie very much...losing her before she was even borned drove another dagger into me...more than I can ever bare. Another part of me had been ripped away and aprt.
The events and chioces that were made
effects Kimmie to the core of her soul to this day.
Kimmie reaches out for answers.
shes torned apart more than she can bare...

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I moved to Ventura to be closer to Kimmie...after she had repeatedly
asked me to move somewhere near LA.

I came here to save my dauighters life..
Not to chase women...I left a gf behind

How far N wide am I willing to go or give up ..to set things right for Kimmie.???
Everything....so god help me.

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Everywhere she turns...theres wolves and thieves @ her back.....
Theres alway a reason for her to feel not good enough..So she keeps on serching for what she lacks.

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So whatever the **** its is..issues...
fears, self pity, miseries,..judgments, pains..etc..etc I may think I might have...
All that **** dosnt mean a fucken thing eithe and not get so god damn self absorb in it. It has to be cast aside....

Its not all about me.
Unconditional love is a thing of beaty.
I love kimmie no matter what...
No matter what all you sons of biotch say believe or thinks....

 

[miloman]

ok then,,so misery does hold company,,,. I am sorry for your pain. We,, I guess "all" here came here to this forum, not so much for anserw's, but maybe to know the GREAT CREATOR isn't just picking on one or two of us.
Now you have told me a bit of your's as I have of mine.
Pain never effects two people the same,,as well, changes a person each differently. I do not have the anserws,,I do have many questions though.
I was not always so angry, hateful and bitter. And it didn't come on over night. In fact, to be honest, if it was suppose too, it would have happened in the summer of 1964 in sunnyvale Calif, I had an older Brother, 2yrs older drown right in front of me. I tried to save him, but I was only 4 or 5 and couldn't stay under water very long,, I kept trying to reach him, but would have to return for air, over and over i would try, then I would get out of the pool and look and see, "his right there, not far, real close" optical illusion, from the surface water. I'd muster all my strenght and point my hands together as I was taught, over my head, arms stretched to the max and push myself again as hard as I could, diving into where he was,, only he was to deep I never touched him. That was my first taste of pain and anguish, and self hatered for living while he died. I have never had much like of myself since. I am 55yrs old, and I see the sun sparkel off the water in that pool like I was still there today. I have loved so deeply with out control, only to end up loseing and licking my own wounds waiting to heal for another day, another possible promise that I won't be left behind,, and yet here I am, still licking my wounds, alone, everyone gone. SO I PACK UP and GO! "Lee Marvin, Paint your Wagon".
I too am not here because I was Looking for a mate,, I just want some contentment, a good nights dream,,and CLEAN water to drink,,I miss good water. "I never saw a place that didn't look better looking back" Paint your Wagon also. It's a crazy life, and we as a people are not making it easier on one another. Things WILL happen, even when you have done nothing to deserve them that tear your heart out, no matter your sex/ color of skin status or standing,,not even your age,,,from 1 min, 3wks or 55yrs old,things no one had a part in creating, so why make it worse doing each other the way we do, there already enough pain and sufferage delved out amongst one another. I am trying to live out my life, with a practice my late father use to reciet pretty regular,,"do no harm". Pretty soft words coming from a man who had to kill or be killed during the Korean War and had two purple hearts to show from them and Guam and NEVER ever talked about it,,he had a bronze and a silver too,, I had to find out by accident from the VA on his death. I miss him everyday too.
You take care of yourself,,try not be eatin up by what the world dish's out.

 

[Limlim]

Amazing... Miloman and LC together... They just talk about nothing back and forth forever.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Amazing... Miloman and LC together... They just talk about nothing back and forth forever.

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[Jonah]

Show me carttridges, i show a gun? Do I have one? Na Na, Push me a cam i'll throw you a sum. Don't give a box of tricks before you trix your own fix, you knew the fix before you show off your bullets. I saw this in a website. here's a recitation from four truths. 1. I have knees with ligerments, 2. I have a breast it's called ribs 3. cage, i have cage but enclose me i loose control 4. i won't bite you but i'll eat those legs and let you walk alone. is there another. 5. Banned, if I got so wild which is what I have been, in the faith of my own know how would i come back to shoot again? No i was asked to change the script before so i remained to be alone for a while and not come back from the cage that tried to keep me a away from my trained tigeress. 6. I will not enter the cage of a young tigeress that was taimed so much I could not bear to be with her. 7. If i enter a tamed tiger's cage i would not be the man i am today to protect the species that lived to survive on this planet in the jungle that protected me. 8 what is this thread about. I travel you listen the world is banned I hunt for a better food that cleans my system. MILK ME I WILL

 

[miloman]

Someone release that Whale,,Jonah's out and on the lose !

 

[Pheenix]

Milo and Lonesome Crew, we have invented an infinite energy resource

 

[LoneKiller]

Motion Lotion, Anal Beads, Silk Robes,hot tubs, Playboy magazines, and Internet porn isn't art. It's whacking material. Maybe if they somehow got
Robert De Niro to star in one it might be considered art.

 

[EveWasFramed]

*chokes laughing*

 

[Lonesome Crow]

I ma paint a painting using my CUM.
Use my fucken **** as a brush.
It'll be call the LC brush stroke.

 

[Badjedidude]

(puke)

 

[LoneKiller]

I ma paint a painting using my CUM.
Use my fucken **** as a brush.
It'll be call the LC brush stroke.

Damn! That's a pretty erotic post.

 

[tangerinedream]

Damn! That's a pretty erotic post.

For the love of God, DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM!

Also, there's a world of difference between "erotic" and "smutty."

 

[Equinox]

Please don't quote Lonesome Crow. It renders the ignore function completely useless. I was not prepared for that. :-o