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LifePath1 said:
And then there's guys like me that get slightly turned on by being humiliated by females....again...forget I said anything lmao!

Ah. See I heard about you guys but always thought it was some weird Hollywood "selling tickets for weird scenes" movies thing lol.
I respect that. Different strokes for different folks.
 
Richard_39 said:
LifePath1 said:
And then there's guys like me that get slightly turned on by being humiliated by females....again...forget I said anything lmao!

Ah. See I heard about you guys but always thought it was some weird Hollywood "selling tickets for weird scenes" movies thing lol.
I respect that. Different strokes for different folks.

Atleast when a girl tells me to **** off or ignores me when I try and hit on them I kinda like that too lol! Win-win situation!
 
Men and women have very different issues to deal with, they don't own the exclusive domain to any of those issues of course, but they are by no means equal.

"Women like *** just as much as men do", true I would say, yet women ovulate once every 4 weeks, and men create millions of sperm a day... they might like it as much, but we are driven to have it more, it's hormones.

"Most women don't care about ***** size", again I'd say this is true when it comes to long term relationships, society however does care about ***** size, and it's not just **** either, how many Calvin Klein underwear posters have you seen that didn't have a bulge the size of an orange.

"Women suffer just as much from being a virgin", again very true, emotionally they will feel quite the same way a man will, they will never have to worry about not being able to get an erection because of anxiety, or premature ejaculation from excitement.

@Unix, 90% of penisses is between 4.25 and 7.5 inches in length, those above it are big, those below are small, the rest is considered normal. You are a little shy of the average, but not small. Use your fingers, use your tongue and focus on being a giver not a taker, and no woman that truly likes you will complain.
 
Sci-Fi said:
He's not wrong.  Being a male and being a virgin is looked down up among some guys.  If you haven't lost it by the time you are eighteen you get asked why, just do it, find a hooker, offers to hook you up with some easy girl.  There are some things women will not understand just the same as there are some things men can not understand that women go through.  There are differences and what he said IS NOT WRONG.

I agree completely

TheSkaFish said:
I'm in a similar boat, I've never been with anyone either.  I haven't been good enough.  And I understand how male virginity is an issue, because the world does indeed make male virginity mean "loser".  I think it's a power thing.  For women, if they are virgins they are seen as being too good for any man that comes their way, the women are more powerful.  For men, they are seen as too weak to get what they want, being *** in this case.  Then there is the fear aspect.  The problem I've always had with "it will happen when you're not looking/trying" is that it hasn't happened when I've tried, and it hasn't happened when I haven't tried either.  How do I know I won't just get nothing for the rest of my life?  The fear is real.  It makes you wonder what is wrong with you that you are never good enough to get something that many others who are no more special than you (and some who are very loathsome) have been getting with little to no thought or effort for years and years, all the way back to junior high.  You just want to break this damn curse.  But at the same time I still say that seeing an escort is a bad idea for a number of reasons.

First off is the risk of diseases, including life-threatening or life-changing ones.  This alone makes it not worth it.  Condoms can break, people can lie about their status because they just want to get paid, people can honestly believe they are healthy but be wrong about it.  These women are leading a pretty risky, unhealthy lifestyle, I wouldn't want to risk it.  

Not only that, but like others have said, it could be a very unpleasant experience.  You know it's all fake at the end of the day, it's an act set up to separate you from your money.  Personally it would make me feel like it's even more confirmation that I'm a loser, because that's how the world sees it, and it would confirm that I'm still not good enough for a woman - it would be an insult to myself.  It would make me feel like other men muscled me out of the dating pool and into having to pay for it.  I'd hate that feeling like hell.  I don't want to give them or life/the universe the satisfaction.

Also, if you were to get a girlfriend and you told them about it, they might think it's gross and break up with you for it, even if you don't get sick.  The idea grosses me out at least.  Or they could look down on you for it.

Finally, you don't know how close you are to getting a relationship.  That's another reason I never do anything drastic, even though I might feel angry or hopeless.  Because you could be only a year, a month, a week, or even a day away from finding the answer to your problems.  If you do something you might regret regardless of what it is, you'll have thrown everything away when you might have been so close.  I say if it's come down to this, then you might as well try to figure out what you're doing wrong, anything at all that it might be, or just give yourself more time to clear your head.

I don't know your age but you have to do something, because if you wont this issue will grow and you will end to be a frustrated 23 years old virgin. Also, if you don't have any ***** anxiety why you are still a virgin? Waiting the right one that cares and love you is a bad idea, i have made the same mistake for years. 


TheRealCallie said:
Never said there weren't differences, but women get those same questions.  Women are looked at as losers if they are virgins too.  To say this is a MAN problem and that women don't understand because of whatever reason is what is ********.  Yes, I'm sure it is different, but that doesn't mean it's worse.

Maybe from other womns, a man would never shame a girl for being virgin, usually a virgin girl is seen as more attractive
 
Xpendable said:
It seems like you are not allowed to satisfy that urge unless it is with someone who is attracted to you, if not it is worthless (?)

It is better to remain virgin forever because of some moral ground about the validity of the emotions during the act of ***? But at the same time losing it is no big deal even with the correct emotions? That's a clear dissonance there.

Yep, totally agree. Living by morals and ethics is no longer an option for me. Almost every woman had casual ***, almost every man had casual ***. Is pretty clear that there is nothing wrong about casual ***, males tend to call women ******* because they are insecure about themselves. For a women is way easier to find a guy for casual ***, this is why men tend to have this attitude, they feel inferior because the girl who had a lot of encounters is seen as more difficult to satisfy.

TheRealCallie said:
I don't understand why everyone knows you're a virgin.  If you don't want people to know and thus, by your words, think you are a loser, why do people know?  They can only know if you tell them.  Don't tell them.

The fairyworld looks like an awesome place, but here on earth in almost every situation people talk a lot about other people. Example, today i have made a mistake at work, in 5 minutes everyone was joking about it (in a friendly way, i'm not saying that it was terrible to handle). Now, a friend of mine have also a small *****, once the girl he was dating discovered this almost everyone was talking about how small this guy was. 

I know that i shouldn't pay attention to this kind of *********, but it will take time to develop such resistance. And i don't want to be a virgin anymore...

Richard_39 said:
Wow, this thread went places in my absence lol.

Listen, man, Unix, you're a grown man. You do what you want. You want to call a whore to f*ck? Fine by me. It's your life, your choice, your decision. Hell, I've considered it too, I've been single for 10 years and at some point on year 8 I probably wondered what it was like again. But, you know, I got my pride; I won't pay for ***. I think that's a whole lot more shameful than being a virgin. MY view, no one has to share it.
Regardless, if my friends, or people I know, or anyone else for that matter I frequented, mocked me EITHER for being a virgin or paying for ***? Wouldn't be my friends no more. F*ck what other people have to say, over 50% of this country and others is divorced and there's online website specifically designed for married people to cheat on each other. Goes to show you what insight most people have on interpersonal relationship, no offense to anyone.

Only thing I can tell you is you're the one who'll have to go on with the decision, wether it be a good thing or a bad thing. The optic I have, the optic you might want to consider EVEN if as I can read right now you don't really believe it, is "what am I going to tell my kids someday". That's what I tell myself every time I have a decision to make. When I was younger, I didn't, because like you, never thought it'd happen; as such, there's a boatload of crap I can't really tell my kids about, 'cos I was a grade-A *******. I regret that. Although, on the list, personally, I don't have "I lost my virginity to a prostitute". To me, it matters.

Maybe to you it doesn't matter either way, it depends on what you think. If this is something you really want, do it. F*ck what other people think. But keep it mind it might not be what you expect and that hole you feel might not be filled (no pun intended). You'll still have to live with it, though.

Oh and by the by, just in passing? 5 inches isn't that small. There's a LOT smaller out there, trust me lol. If that's your fear, you should try and abstract from it. The mother of my kids once had an abortion long time ago, with the boyfriend she was with for 2 years. She said it was so small when they did it on the couch, she though he was screwing the couch. Symbol she made with her fingers, erect, was like a peanut. I'm not MAJORLY hung, but in the averages and still, with another girl I dated, it hurt her when we had relations...she couldn't date men who WERE hung and dumped some specifically for that reason, because it'd be too painful, even to bleeding sometimes.

As for the original question, "is it worth it?", no one can answer that besides you. After the fact. If you don't like the answer though, it's too late, remember that. I don't think the 100 quib is worth it, though. I'd go with a high class escort, couple thousand. Because if I go, I'd rather go ALL IN, rather than the local dump truck, if you know what I mean.

Good luck man. Have a good one.


Thank you, i will think about that. At the end, everyone here is saying that virginity isn't a big deal, so why losing it have to be an epocal moment?



Brennabean said:
I agree with Richard, it's no one else's business.

One thing that bugs me that I have seen so much on this forum is about men saying they have it so much harder than women. And obviously this pisses women off because what would you know? It's dumb to compare when you cant be sure. Yeah you can go on statistics or based on people you know or have heard of, you still sound like a *******. No one can know who has it harder unless it becomes possible to swap consciousness. Lol mini rant over.

If you are talking about *** than i have to disagree. *** is way more "easy" to handle for a woman. A woman can just "defend" herself from a guy just by saying that he is small and that he is terrible in bed.
 
Okay, sorry.  I forgot how much more men know about women than women do.   :rolleyes:


The problem with a lot of people is that you are going to see what you want to see. It doesn't matter if it's true or merely an opinion or completely false, if you want to believe it, you are going to believe it. You won't go out of your way to walk a mile in another's shoes or try to understand a situation from another's perspective. You just carry on about your life like only what you believe is true and real in the world.
I'll go back to my "fairyland" now where I don't tell people **** I don't want them knowing.
 
"A woman can defend herself from a guy by saying he has a small *****..." 
Does that make sense to you?

I can only guess as to what that means. Do you mean that women can handle rejection of *** easier than men because they can defend their pride by mocking the man's genitals? I can see that, but it's only a front, rejection hurts anyone who let's it, male or female. Plus guys do the same when they're rejected by girls too. But i don't know if that's what you meant so this paragraph could be pointless lol.
 
TheRealCallie said:
Okay, sorry.  I forgot how much more men know about women than women do.   :rolleyes:


The problem with a lot of people is that you are going to see what you want to see.  It doesn't matter if it's true or merely an opinion or completely false, if you want to believe it, you are going to believe it.  You won't go out of your way to walk a mile in another's shoes or try to understand a situation from another's perspective.  You just carry on about your life like only what you believe is true and real in the world.  
I'll go back to my "fairyland" now where I don't tell people **** I don't want them knowing.



This comment perfectly explains your behavior too, and we do know a lot about women, but guided by what they do, not by what they say.
 
Brennabean said:
"A woman can defend herself from a guy by saying he has a small *****..." 
Does that make sense to you?

I can only guess as to what that means. Do you mean that women can handle rejection of *** easier than men because they can defend their pride by mocking the man's genitals? I can see that, but it's only a front, rejection hurts anyone who let's it, male or female. Plus guys do the same when they're rejected by girls too. But i don't know if that's what you meant so this paragraph could be pointless lol.

I think what he meant was that the burden of "good ***" lies with the man, it's his job to make it enjoyable for both, now personally I disagree with that to some extent, but it holds a kernel of truth to it, I think with the "defend" he means that the woman doesn't have to see it as a failure of her own, he was just a "bad lay".
 
Ah ok I getcha.
Anyway has anyone watched the nice guys/ nice girls reddit videos on YouTube? They're hilarious and maybe informative to some guys on here based on some of the comments I've seen since I joined.
 
Women should know their place. On all fours, in the kitchen, scrubbing the floors.
Or making me a baloney sandwich.
Or getting me a beer.

Or after this post...kicking my ***.

:)

You know, not to disrespect anyone, but ever since I saw the title of this thread, every time I click on it I can hear Madonna singing "Like a Virgin".
Kind of annoying ;-)
 
Richard_39 said:
Women should know their place. On all fours, in the kitchen, scrubbing the floors.
Or making me a baloney sandwich.
Or getting me a beer.

Or after this post...kicking my ***.

:)

You know, not to disrespect anyone, but ever since I saw the title of this thread, every time I click on it I can hear Madonna singing "Like a Virgin".
Kind of annoying ;-)

my problem is once they start talking about a small *****.  It sounds to fetish for me, and then there's the measurements.  I've never measured myself, probably should because 5 inches doesn't seem like it's all that small. I googled "average size *****" and this is what came up on google. <[font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]; the average erect ***** is 13.12 cm (5.16 inches) [/font][font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif]long[/font][font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif].> [/font]
 
Finally I know how much 5 inches is! Really isn't as small as I thought, very average. Plus, who wants to have a ginormous **** and not even be able to put everything in?

Now I think this is all in OPs head, seriously, that's a great and very comfortable size. Maybe you're not a shower, but definitely would be way better doing the business than something big that's just hurting 70% of the time.

(this might be a graphic post, sry)

p.s.: Women can have very shallow ******s, btw, then you could even be too big hehe
 
DarkSelene said:
Finally I know how much 5 inches is! Really isn't as small as I thought, very average. Plus, who wants to have a ginormous **** and not even be able to put everything in?

Now I think this is all in OPs head, seriously, that's a great and very comfortable size. Maybe you're not a shower, but definitely would be way better doing the business than something big that's just hurting 70% of the time.

(this might be a graphic post, sry)

p.s.: Women can have very shallow ******s, btw, then you could even be too big hehe

Going by "eye" I'm guessing I might be above average by a centimeter or two. Yet I am able to make my fiancee orgasm. I hit a spot, and my length does it.  She's talked about her "first love" who was so f'n well endowed, and she doesn't have any real connection to him. Hell, we've run into him at walmart, I actually helped him black friday and didn't even know it. She hid...watched us.  

The moral of the story is, bigger isn't necessarily better. She said she hated *** with him. It was infrequent, non-existent.
 
morrowrd said:
Going by "eye" I'm guessing I might be above average by a centimeter or two. Yet I am able to make my fiancee orgasm. I hit a spot, and my length does it.  She's talked about her "first love" who was so f'n well endowed, and she doesn't have any real connection to him. Hell, we've run into him at walmart, I actually helped him black friday and didn't even know it. She hid...watched us.  

The moral of the story is, bigger isn't necessarily better. She said she hated *** with him. It was infrequent, non-existent.

Wait, you can "eyeball" a centimeter?  Damn, you have some good eyesight :p
 
I actually knew a guy who was VERY well endowed. He was lonely as well. Told me when he dropped his pants, women would gasp and literally be fearful. He had maybe 5 girlfriends, all of them stopped in the middle because it hurt to much. He was ultimately rejected for it.

Haven't heard from him in years, but that made me understand that being well endowed by nature isn't necessarily a blessing. It's an ensemble to be a happy couple, not just tied to sexual performances.
 
Brennabean said:
"A woman can defend herself from a guy by saying he has a small *****..." 
Does that make sense to you?

I can only guess as to what that means. Do you mean that women can handle rejection of *** easier than men because they can defend their pride by mocking the man's genitals? I can see that, but it's only a front, rejection hurts anyone who let's it, male or female. Plus guys do the same when they're rejected by girls too. But i don't know if that's what you meant so this paragraph could be pointless lol.

Yes, it makes a lot of sense. I understand that women suffer from rejection too but there is no shaming on them. Actually a woman can mock a man in pubblic way easier than a man. The "you are beatiful even if you weight 220 pounds " movement have forgotten that men are often shamed too for something that cannot be changed like height and size, If i call a woman a fat ***** i'm definetly a monster who doesn't deserve to live, but if a woman call me little willy thats perfectly fine, nobody cares if the guy in question is right, wrong, no he is guilty  because his **** is small so we can make fun of him. 

Dont misunderstand me, I hate men that shame women, here i'm just saying how things work


MisterLonely said:
I think what he meant was that the burden of "good ***" lies with the man, it's his job to make it enjoyable for both, now personally I disagree with that to some extent, but it holds a kernel of truth to it, I think with the "defend" he means that the woman doesn't have to see it as a failure of her own, he was just a "bad lay".

Is not even the burden of good ***. To hurt a male you just have to say something about his ****, he really cannot say anything to talk back. Damn, while writing this i'm finding that i'm giving a bad immage of myself. Ultimately i will accept this, thing just are in this way, i cant change anything 
 
DarkSelene said:
p.s.: Women can have very shallow ******s, btw, then you could even be too big hehe

Is hard to belive with all the **** i have seen. Well, I guess that not all the girls outside here have 10cm wide ******s lol my sexual experience with women is limited to ****, i guess that this had a big impact on my insecurities 
 
Richard_39 said:
I actually knew a guy who was VERY well endowed. He was lonely as well. Told me when he dropped his pants, women would gasp and literally be fearful. He had maybe 5 girlfriends, all of them stopped in the middle because it hurt to much. He was ultimately rejected for it.

Haven't heard from him in years, but that made me understand that being well endowed by nature isn't necessarily a blessing. It's an ensemble to be a happy couple, not just tied to sexual performances.

At least he is confident in himself

M_also_lonely said:
If you don't love someone, don't have *** with them.

Are you serious?
 

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