LeaningIntoTheMuse said:
As a stereotype, men tend to be more logical, and women tend to be more emotional. Of course, this isn't a stereotype that is grounded in reality. Some men are more emotional, and some women are more logical.
I don't find it misogynistic to say that some women are illogical, because they are. So are some men. I do, however, find it sexist to state all women are illogical and throw them all into one box, because they aren't.
Awl-righty. I find this "stereotype" needs to be updated. My reason being that I have found
many men to be just as emotional and sometimes downright insne as they claim women to be.
You're right. I don't find it misogynistic to say SOME women are illogical, however, I do find it misogynistic to pass that women TEND to be illogical. Furthermore, this is a stereotype that is thrown at women constantly in both general life and even within the confines of this forum.
Furthermore, I don't think it's even logic we're talking about here. It's rationality. Emotions do render a person irrational which may cloud logic, but it makes the person no less capable of making a logical decision once they've calmed down. How many men have historically battled, murdered, and destroyed for purely emotional reasons? A LOT. Even so much that I honestly can't understand why men don't have the title of being most emotional. Possibly because these emotions are covered up by the mindset that men are SUPPOSED to communicate through brute force. That's supposed to be the "natural way." No. In nature, force is used for the hunt, protection, and for territory; not for emotions. What human males display is violent, EMOTIONAL, irrational behavior. Now, boys, raise your hand if you've ever punched a wall, broken an object, or knocked a person out because they said or did something you didn't like. Hmmm.
And, yes, women can be irrational too - women can create beautifully elaborate, diabolical schemes to totally obliterate their enemies because of something as ridiculous as a break-up! Do women TYPICALLY go through all that trouble? No. That's the mess you see on TV (by the way, it's illogical to think all that bullshit is real. Hmmmmmm.)
No, women just cry and scream and eat themselves into oblivion until they feel better. Otherwise, they keep it all in and put on a poker face until they explode (same as men). Does it make them illogical at all? No, just irrational.
Neither of these are an invalid expression of emotion but to be honest the latter is less destructive. Still, NEITHER proves that one sex is less capable of logical thinking than the other.
However, men continue to fault women's logic on the grounds that women are emotional. Perhaps we're so emotional because we're sick of men oppressing our judgment in that way.
Besides, men are the ones notorious for frontlining mindless entertainment (Jackass, anyone?), ridiculous inventions, and the "Just because we can" attitude. On the other hand, women are notorious for their wit, analyzation skills, and the need to always ask "but why?"
Anyway, that's just on a general front. This whole 'women's "logic"' nonsense has very little basis, and any evidence you can use to prove a fault in women's logic can just as easily be used on men.
And, on a side note, I am absolutely offended by the discredit of female logic by the use of quotation marks in the thread title and I haven't even read the first post (not that I really need to, considering I'm replying to LeaningIntoTheMuse, but I might read it anyway to validate my offense). It is true that this forum seems to be a male majority and all this hate towards women, many of which are one hundred times worse than what's been displayed in this thread, makes it difficult for us to feel welcome. Sure, women do the same thing - *cough* you know who - I don't know anything about a toilet paper thread but don't you think it's better to express your feelings about a PARTICULAR situation than slamming a whole gender just to "vent"? That goes for everyone, not just the male population here. It's no longer just a frustration towards the opposite gender. I have seen threads in the past that were truly misogynistic and simply by bringing down the tone and being passive aggressive with the same underlying hateful feelings they are allowed to continue on the rise. These, to me, are the things that should be addressed.
Anyway, I literally just woke up at 11:17. Feel free to disregard any nonsense spotted here.
Edit:
Okay, after reading the OP, I have found more than a handful of reasons to feel thoroughly offended as a woman, but this takes the cake...
"Trust me all the men in this forum when I say women don't know what they want and their advice sucks ass."
And that's only AFTER implying that women all don't know how to reason without emotion and that we all need a good fresia and somehow THAT will solve our problems. And considering I might be the sole member so open about wanting to be messed, there's obviously something offensive about that line that sets it apart from what I've already said about my own self.
Vent or not, OP is just offensive, and dare I say it, may be experiencing all his frustration because of underlying mommy issues. But I'm not about to psychoanalyze him so that theory can be disregarded as a quip.