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Doubt The Rabbit said:
Oh I love seeing nude people. It's called porn. :cool:

What I am SAYING is that proclaiming that "naturist" people are smarter, more mature, and have a better "understanding" of whatever it is you think one is supposed to be understanding, is OPINION. It is not FACT. I don't care what website you got it from.
Any site leaning towards ANY belief system will post a combination of fact and opinion in their own favor.

I don't see why I need to make a project of anything, because, point blank, I wouldn't be a naturist, so I don't care for anything other than argument's sake. I don't believe prancing around in my birthday suit makes me any smarter or dumber; if anything, it simply makes me more susceptible to illness and infection. THAT is a fact.

It is not an opinion, it is said on many sites, not just Naturist sites. Naturist children are more out going, When I'm nude, I like to be outside more, but I can't, because it's not legal here. Naturist children are smarter at telling someone if a predator is praying on them, because there parents teach them that stuff. Oh course, they're nude, so they teach them. They are generally smarter. Without close does makes a difference, in how you feel, your self esteem, you look at things differently, but you don't know that because you, are not a naturist! Why don't you get some Naturist facts from more then one website, and past them here and your source. I want to see what you've learned. Also the benefits of Naturism. Also, please put down what I claimed as FACT and prove me wrong. List your sources.

"it simply makes me more susceptible to illness and infection. THAT is a fact." That's your own opinion. Technically, it CAN give you an illness, not will, like stepping on a rusty nail with your bare feet. You think they would be sicker, because their skin is exposed. As if they don't know how to keep clean or look after themselves. I've been a naturist for years, I've gone outside nude, in the woods, I've been in fields, hiking, GeoCaching etc, I'm not sick. I spent most of my time nude, and I notice that I get sick lesser, not colds or anything. It is rare when I get one, and when I do, it doesn’t last long. A coincidence, maybe, but I doubted.

It seems like the way you think, because you are without the experience. It's like guessing how a person feels giving a certain situation or something, when you haven't been there yourself.

You don't want to make a project, because if you are wrong, you don't want to be wrong. Maybe you already know, who knows. That was a lame excuse.

From a personal experience, I feel a lot better nude then in clothes. Not just physically, mentally as well, as with other Naturists. You think I make this up, only because I like to be nude and make a long post out of nothing, and hope the people hear are dumb to fall for it.

An interesting thing, I want to know your answers on these, without looking them up:
Is a microwave safe? Does eating food from a microwave have any effect to your body? Careful with how you answer that one.
Which is safer, the magnetic strip on a credit card or a RFID chip?
PC or Mac? Is that correct? If not, what is the correct why if sarying it? It has nothing to do with the "sentence", just that.

Don't give no lame excuse like these questions don't have to do with anything or it's stupid.
 
Lost Soul said:
Don't give no lame excuse like these questions don't have to do with anything or it's stupid.

I fail to see what is "lame" about questioning what RFID chips and microwaved food has to do with the a disagreement over if being naked makes you smarter. You obviously didn't provide any tie in.
 
Wow. Seems like you operate on opinion there buddy.

"You don't want to make a project, because if you are wrong, you don't want to be wrong. Maybe you already know, who knows. That was a lame excuse."

Wrong. I will not take out extra time in my life to run a ridiculous project about some belief system I will not pursue just for the sake of proving to a man on the internet that there is a difference between fact and opinion. There is no such thing as being WRONG in the question of a belief system. I think naturism, formerly known as nudism, is not necessary and I'm not wrong for believing so, because it's entirely my right to do so.

"Technically, it CAN give you an illness, not will, like stepping on a rusty nail with your bare feet."

Funny, because I said it will make me SUSCEPTIBLE to illness, meaning it INCREASES my possibility of developing illnesses, not that being in the nude day and night will, in and of itself, make me sick. Stepping on a rusty nail barefoot? I'm much more likely to do that NAKED than if I were clothed and wearing shoes.

" Naturist children are smarter at telling someone if a predator is praying on them, because there parents teach them that stuff. Oh course, they're nude, so they teach them."

So are you saying non-nude parents don't teach their kids? That's just ridiculous, and once again, an opinion.

"From a personal experience, I feel a lot better nude then in clothes. Not just physically, mentally as well, as with other Naturists. You think I make this up, only because I like to be nude and make a long post out of nothing, and hope the people hear are dumb to fall for it."

That's your personal experience. However you feel more comfortable is your business, and not our problem. I don't care if you like to be nude or not; the only thing I think is that you pushing this nudism stuff and accusing clothed people of being less informed and less civilized is just another example of a cult trying to increase their numbers and "enlighten" the rest of us. How arrogant.

"Don't give no lame excuse like these questions don't have to do with anything or it's stupid."
I won't give a lame excuse :) I won't answer because I neither have nor want to answer questions that have no obvious relation to nudism. Refusing to engage a misguided young man does not make him any less misguided.

How you feel about nudism is your business, my dear, and how it affects you is only relative to you.
 
Actually, I never claimed any of these were facts, but I said, a lot of what I posted were facts and stuff.

“Society is so focused on sex. When you goto the checkout line, the magezines are three topics: Sex, how to look sexy naked and gossip. Websites often say no nudity but say nothing about sex. Some website like IMDB, mix nudity and sex together, as if they're the same thing.”

Fact: You can probably see these at just about any store where you live I bet. Go onto IMDB's website and goto the perental guidance. The top one is Sex/Nudity
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“The police are more stick on nudity. If someone reported that someone was walking around with a gun, and that they were nude.”

Possible fact, but not proven. This dosen't matter
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“Sex has become very acceptable, but wholesome nudity is not. TV shows and movies. It's hard to watch them without having sexual dialong or graphic sex scenes. What is sad is, nudity is only fine if it's sexual”

Actually, what I failed to mention was the nudisty usually is only fine if it's sexual, it's still a form a art, and is acceptable, but the rest if fact

Fact
“TV, I ntoice that they onyl show nudity when their is sex scenes. Like Dexter. One episode had a very graphic sex scene, There is a thin line betwen what is R rated and X rated. I don't know what that is. Nudity is censored if it's not sexual. Not just on TV, but on the Internet too.:

Fact: Fact. Not that hard to find out, if you don't believe it.
“We have women go out party and they wear revealing clothing, looking sexy. These women would never goto a Naturist resort or beach, becuase it's not sexual. People refer to almost everything to sex. Especially the male genitals. Even something slightly resembly one or by a longshot.”

Fact with Opinion: Is is very unlike that a girl who dresses up sexy and displays herself would goto a Naturist resort, but it possible.
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“Nudity is the way we naturally are. It's how we look, but we are taught to be ashamed of our selves and cover up. The reason, first began due to a misunderstanding of the Bible, which I will review. Weather you're religous or not, you should read this. Whehter you are religious or not, this is how we got to wearing clothes all the time.”

Fact with opinion: What I said about the bible is true, can be found out by searching the bible on nudity on multiple sites, however why we wear clothes, I suspect that is where it went wrong. It was a misunderstanding clearly.
“Those who are Naturists, are generally more smarter and mature. They don't go drinking every night do drugs etc, becuase they know better.

Children brought up as Naturist get better grades and are smarter. Semi fact. I failed to mention that they were gnerally smarter, not all smarter.”
“Naturism is not sexual, as a matter of fact, they prohibit it. It's on the rules on any Naturist website resort or beach.”

Fact: It can be seen by going to the website of any Naturist resort or beach, as I mentioned on the post.
“Unfortunately, the porn industry has adapted the terms nudist, and Naturist (more commingly nudist). I prefer the word Naturist, becuase it gives a better meaning. It's not about just being nude, it is a natural way of living. It's hard for people to search Naturist or nudist without getting sex photos. I used the term clothesfree, which you can browse images via Google Images without adult themed images.”

Fact: Search nudist or naturist and you get a lot of pornographic images mixed with naturist pictures.
“Also, when people search up clothesfree out of curiousty, the first websites in Google are clothesfree.com, a Naturist website and community, probably the largest one on the web.”

Fact: type into clothesfree in Google.
“Naturists are fighting to get rid of the felth that's on the internet and stuff, and bring back a good community, a community that is safe for everyone at all ages. The are is so much filth on the Internet now, but Nautrist is doing their best to get rid of it.”

check out this page, it has more info:
http://www.clothesfree.com/aboutus.html

Fact: Even a website stating it. Also, said on a many other sites too.
“Did you know, that when settlers came to America, They were so ashamed of their nudity, that they wouldn't bath?”

Semi fact: The part about settlers being to ashamed of thier bodies to not even bath, however the first settlers that came to America was guess. I think it was the settlers who came to America, but not certain. I failed to mention that in my post.
Now on with the Naturist facts! Yay!

“Naturists gain better self esteam for themselves. Their care more about themselves, others and the enviroment.”

Fact: It was stated on many Naturist sites, even in a qunuine quote, about how they are more about Nature more. Should be in my signature
“The UK, is more open about nudity, less fussy on Nudity then in North America. Americans are so uptight about nudity, I'm surprised they still shower nude.”

Fact: If you watch the documnatery “My Daughter Is A Nudist” It states this. If you look at the movie pictures that contain nudity, the American vs the European, you'll see the American one has an altered cover, with no nudity. Also here may be good:
http://clothesfree.com/movies.html
Naturism is better for the invnroment, and healthier for the skin. The more skin exposed to the sun, the healthier your body is (Semi Fact: Too much exposure is not good, which is why we wear sunscreen) Less laundry too (obvious fact) less water going into the septic. Too much water is not good for it” (Fact)
“People who are Naturists a generally more out going and active.” Fact, there was a celebrity said to have lost weight since visiting Naturist resorts becuase of outside activities. They are more active when nude. What I failed to explain, was that if they are visiting a Naturist resort, they are nude and want to be more active (who dosen't want to go outside in the suin clothesfree, I'm tempted to a lot). I also said that they are generally more outgoing/active. Not everyone.
“Naturists except everyone the same, regardless of your gneder, age, race, orgintation or relgion. Everyone is equal. No clothes, no labels.”

Fact: Have you ever heard of a Naturist homophobe? Also, as a genuine quote, see on my signature. Written by Naturists!
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“Naturists come in all shapes and sizes (Fact: Can be seen by going to any Naturist site just about) Many people who want to try Naturism fear that they aren't good looking enough. It dosen't matter whether you are fat or skinny.”

Fact: Many people who are not good looking do have this problem, speak to any Naturist resort owner, they'll tell you. It's even listed in the FAQs on Naturism on many Naturist sites.
“Naturism is of all ages. You'll find people from infants to people in their third generation.”

Fact: Go a site like Bare Oaks, or any Naturist site that has pictures, you see people of any ages.
“People who are not Naturists (those who prefer to wear clothes, are generally called Textiles.”

Fact: Look up the word Testiles and Naturism
“Spain, is one of the few Naturist friendly countries. You can go almost anywhere nude. “

Fact: Look up Naturist friendly countries and you'll see that Spain is Naturist friendly. Even mentioned on a Naturist wikia site, that is one of the only ones that you can be nude almost anywhere.


Doubt The Rabbit said:
Wow. Seems like you operate on opinion there buddy.

"You don't want to make a project, because if you are wrong, you don't want to be wrong. Maybe you already know, who knows. That was a lame excuse."


Wrong. I will not take out extra time in my life to run a ridiculous project about some belief system I will not pursue just for the sake of proving to a man on the internet that there is a difference between fact and opinion. There is no such thing as being WRONG in the question of a belief system. I think naturism, formerly known as nudism, is not necessary and I'm not wrong for believing so, because it's entirely my right to do so."

"Technically, it CAN give you an illness, not will, like stepping on a rusty nail with your bare feet."

Funny, because I said it will make me SUSCEPTIBLE to illness, meaning it INCREASES my possibility of developing illnesses, not that being in the nude day and night will, in and of itself, make me sick. Stepping on a rusty nail barefoot? I'm much more likely to do that NAKED than if I were clothed and wearing shoes.

" Naturist children are smarter at telling someone if a predator is praying on them, because there parents teach them that stuff. Oh course, they're nude, so they teach them."

So are you saying non-nude parents don't teach their kids? That's just ridiculous, and once again, an opinion.
Where did I say that textiles don't teach their kids anything? I say that Naturists teach their kinds better and generally.

"From a personal experience, I feel a lot better nude then in clothes. Not just physically, mentally as well, as with other Naturists. You think I make this up, only because I like to be nude and make a long post out of nothing, and hope the people hear are dumb to fall for it."

That's your personal experience. However you feel more comfortable is your business, and not our problem. I don't care if you like to be nude or not; the only thing I think is that you pushing this nudism stuff and accusing clothed people of being less informed and less civilized is just another example of a cult trying to increase their numbers and "enlighten" the rest of us. How arrogant.[/quote]

Yes, that is my opinion, but I believe there was more to the post, I posted my opinion too.

I not forcing you or anyone to be nude. I don't care if you don't like to be nude and preferred to be clothed.

Textiles being less civilized is a fact. Have you read the papers. There is crime everywhere, war, discrimination etc. Now tell me, how often have you heard a naturist doing that, or anything bad happening at a naturist resort, or bad people there. Hardly.

"Don't give no lame excuse like these questions don't have to do with anything or it's stupid."
I won't give a lame excuse :) I won't answer because I neither have nor want to answer questions that have no obvious relation to nudism. Refusing to engage a misguided young man does not make him any less misguided.

You don't have to answer them, but I'm not saying you had to, even though I implied you did. I was just curious of how you answers these and claim facts. I've said that had nothing to with my post on Naturism, I was curious, due to how you answered my facts, and you denied them with your own opinions and nothing to back it up as. I made a break down of my first post, which adds some more info, which should be more helpful, or at least helpful if you wish to look up more info.

[/quote]How you feel about nudism is your business, my dear, and how it affects you is only relative to you.
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Yes it is.
 
Dain...lost

havnt you hear???
You cant believe everything you read. Theres **** loads of sites on the net.
Like WTF dude...how come you're not smart enough to figure that out?

RFID is safer...cuase those ******* havnt planted one in me at the moment? lol
even if they did planted one in me...I ma run a magnet over that bitch.lmao
Maybe fucken duct tape...duct tape works on everything.lol

mirco waves are just sound waves, dude.
I cant help it if people stick plactic in the wave machine with thier food.
The earth wants more plactic ...man :p
Be awear of china from china..man Led paint on your china make it you stupid.

here's the thing dude....
just becuase people dont agree with you...donst mean that they're wrong or youre right. visa versa
Its preference....
Kind like saying what works for you might kill me. What works for me might kill you.
Im pretty sure your smart enough to figure that out?

Dont know if you been educated that the human mind creates fucken problems
so it can solve the problem...right gose over here...wrong gose over there.
good over here...bad gose over there.
All that **** gose in your head or others people's head.
When you buy into the ******** that gose in other's people's head..Then that's not too smart aint it?lol
 
Lonesome Crow said:
Dain...lost

havnt you hear???
You cant believe everything you read. Theres **** loads of sites on the net.
Like WTF dude...how come you're not smart enough to figure that out?

I know, which is why I checked my sources and I know from my experience, by seeing it on multple sites Naturist sites too, but not all Naturists. Naturists are generally honest and don't post stuff that isn't accurate without checking first.

[/quote]RFID is safer...cuase those ******* havnt planted one in me at the moment? lol
even if they did planted one in me...I ma run a magnet over that bitch.lmao

mirco waves are just sound waves, dude.
I cant help it if people stick plactic in the wave machine with thier food...
The earth wants more plactic ...man :p[/quote]

OK... Actually the magnetic strip is safer. The RFID chip can be read by an RFID reader, which can be purchased at a low price. Look it up. However, that made is SAFER o that you had to require a pin number to put in, before, anyone can just walk by you with an RFID reader and collect your info. A few honest people I know, told me about it. I have reads lots about it on legit sites a year ago.

here's the thing dude....
just becuase people dont agree with you...donst mean that they're wrong or youre right. visa versa
Its preference....
Kind like saying what works for you might kill me. What works for me might kill you.
Im pretty sure your smart enough to figure that out?

Dont know if you been educated that the human mind creates fucken problems
so it can solve the problem...right gose over here...wrong gose over there.
good over here...bad gose over there.
All that **** gose in your head or others people's head.
When you buy into the ******** that gose in other's people's head..Then that's not too smart aint it?lol

That's right. I usually check my facts before I have my say in things. I can handle being wrong, and I don't mind if people disagree on someone that I like or prefer, but if they go against fact, common sense, logic etc. It bothers me, and it's hard for me not to correct them whether I have the proof with me or not. I've always had that problem, I speak my mouth, when I shouldn't.

I will try and let this whole thing go.
 
Lost Soul said:
There is crime everywhere, war, discrimination etc. Now tell me, how often have you heard a naturist doing that, or anything bad happening at a naturist resort, or bad people there. Hardly.

*facepalm*

You can't be serious...
 
Felix said:
Lost Soul said:
There is crime everywhere, war, discrimination etc. Now tell me, how often have you heard a naturist doing that, or anything bad happening at a naturist resort, or bad people there. Hardly.

*facepalm*

You can't be serious...

Are you?

I didn't right that like I should have, and yes it looks dumb, no I'm not serious.
 
You know, philosophy is kind of like religion. You can believe in it as much as you want, but your belief doesn't make it fact. Even if hundreds of thousands of people agree with you, it's only a theory until it's proven. People who believe in a god/goddess will tell you that the existence of this deity is a fact. They'll list reasons it must be so, and tell you the benefits of believing in him/ her/ it. Naturism is a philosophy. It may be the right way and the only way for you, but that doesn't make it the right way for others. If Naturism is about peace, acceptance, freedom, beauty, equality, love, and positive energy, and if you're trying to persuade people of this, then you must embody it.
 
well...i think you're getting better at not giving people power over you.
You cant change other people.
You cant make people love you or accept you.

Would you rather be right or would you rather have peace???
Youre choosing peace more and more.

1 you're gonna die.
2 you must live until you die.
3 Everything in between is optional.
 
Try being nude in a tropical country, or a third world country... did you know that some mosquitoes carry a deadly and cunning illness called dengue fever? It's curable but the fact that its symptoms are just like any regular fever til your platelets drop drastically and your veins wont take blood transfusion and it happens so fast that you're not so sick this day and you are dying the next day. That's only one of the possible illness you can get from not protecting yourself from your environment.

Speaking of the word naturist, what I think is natural are how humans were able to discover how to protect themselves and their skin through creating clothes. It is the same as humans making tools to better their everyday lives. I'm not talking about textile production or fashion industry, I am talking about pre-historic humans having the need to protect themselves from the harsh climate.

and to be honest, I don't really care if I am not smart or intelligent...as long as I am comfortable with the things I believe are essential to my well being that I know also work for me. So you just keep on your beliefs and good luck on it. :)
 
LOL if it would raise my IQ I would but I doubt my customers would appreciate it.

jk I still wouldn't, I'd rather remain dumb.
 
Lost Soul said:
mintymint said:
Lost Soul said:

I checked out the site, but I don't have the $49.95 to afford "ClothesFree TV with Nudes in the News webcast with live nudecasters using streaming video or download full screen clear videos to your hard drive." :(

Than don't pay it. I mostly just go for the forums, but lately they have been slow.


If we never were required to wear clothes, the world wouldn't be a crapp place like it is now. We wouldn't have war. violance and discrimination etc. Everyone would be equal becuase we would all live in harmony with nature.



I'd like whatever whatever you are smoking,
 
IF YOU WALK AROUND NAKED THEN YOU MUST BE AN ENLIGHTENED INTELLECTUAL.

Yup.

Totally.
 
Badjedidude said:
IF YOU WALK AROUND NAKED THEN YOU MUST BE AN ENLIGHTENED INTELLECTUAL.

Yup.

Totally.

The wind blowing trough your genitals really enhances your neuron connections.

Long beards and pipes also help!
 
Sci-Fi said:
Wait...being brought up a naturalist makes you smarter?

*facepalm*

No, fool. You do not just become smarter by being in the nude, why don't you just look up the dang facts, so you can understand better.
 
Lost Soul said:
Sci-Fi said:
Wait...being brought up a naturalist makes you smarter?

*facepalm*

No, fool. You do not just become smarter by being in the nude, why don't you just look up the dang facts, so you can understand better.

Fool? Really? Name-calling?
 

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