Not man enough?

[CenotaphGirl]

A grizzled lone cowboy enters the chat. His boots a clankin' and his mustache flared along with his sun burnt nostrils. He sits down, pours himself a spot of tea; and takes a dainty, but masculine, mostly masculine, but a bit dainty, bite of a crumpet, as his other hand's pinky curled, as if in a genuflect respect to the tea he's holdin' in it. He clears his throat, preparing to lay down the proverbial law in the battle of wits and intellect that had ensued. All eyes are on him, as his lips part. He smacks them a bit, licking up a few crumbs of crumpet, and letting the rest fall to their doom in that grizzled forest of beard beneath that battle worn face.

"That my dear, is politeness," he grumbles in a plain, hushed, and hoarse tone.

The lady of the Inn over hears the conversation, rolling her eyes, as she folds the days bedding; "No my dear, politeness would have been wiping those boots of yours before helping yourself to those tea and crumpets."

The old grizzled cow warrior winces, as if mortally wounded, and gives the lady of the Inn an ireful glance. He paused a moment, took another bite of crumpet, and daintily (mostly extremely manly, just a slight bit dainty, it's tea after all) washed it down with a spot of tea, readying himself for his triumphant retort; "Is it now? Or is it a tactful way of saying the floors could be swept and mopped?"

The lady of the Inn huffed loader than a horse! She quickly composed herself. She waited till he finished his crumpets. She waited till he finished his tea. And then she brought out a mop and bucket of water, and stood over the grizzled cowboy with a look of triumph; and proceeded to replace his hat with an overturned mop bucket, water included, upon his head. "Well what do you call that?" she beamed at him, with a smile as glorious as a bloomin' sunflower.

He sat there for a moment, with no particular expression about him, as if there was a painting of the Mona Lisa herself, just on the wall in front of him, just calling to his careful consideration. He coughed a bit, cleared his throat, and spoke, "Well now that's just rude."

This story is fabulous, can we make the Lady of the Inn busty in the next one? helps with my visuals

 

[TropicalStarfish]

This story is fabulous, can we make the Lady of the Inn busty in the next one? helps with my visuals

She's mine, get your own

 

[NotThrivingStillSmiling]

"The Catcher in the Rye," for example, was a banned book in America, at one time. That's censorship.

i love Catcher in the Rye, my middle name is Holden. blows my mind how there are books banned in America...

 

[NoxApex(N/A)]

When you're an artist that can clean animals during hunting season but also you can clean up, go to a wedding and waltz and the topic of censorship comes up....I mean I guess that good news is you can't cancel what's already been cancelled so I mean, win/win? I'm indifferent. I do however, find written censorship comical. Granted, that's because I'm used to seeing it in comic strips, so I mean comical in the literal sense of the word. But yes, it is also humorous at times. That we replaced sh!t with honeysuckle is quite amusing to me. Where's Jeremy Irons when I need him to get with Audrey Hepburn and sing "Why Can't The English?" for a good laugh.

 

[Walnut]

My definition of a man is different. It is not my intention to insult, belittle or censor anyone. It is my opinion and perspective on what a real man should be.

A real man should be vulnerable to his partner. His partner should be the first person he seeks council for what is bothering him. He should be willing to share ALL his hopes and dreams, as well as his insecurities and fears. His partner should be willing (inside a couch fort) to hear, empathize and console him. Making every effort to be apart of the solution, building him up to be strong again.

His partner should not only be accepting of this, but require this level of emotional availability to maintain a successful long lasting relationship.

The man should be willing to support his partner in the exact same way. A deep emotional and spiritual connection is a must. Till death do you part; we is greater than me. Trusting best friends. NO ONE knows you better than your partner. NO SECRETS.

I have thought this way since I was a young child. At this point in my life I am willing to wait until I find someone who agrees with me. I’m honestly not sure if this is healthy. To be dependent on anyone like this. I’ve had my butt handed to me in the past because I trusted someone who I shouldn’t have. But my heart just can’t get past this. I want this level of emotional bond and deep down inside I can’t imagine anything less.

If someone else wants something different then thats great for you. This is what I need in a relationship. I’ll wait until I find it.

 

[user 139760]

My definition of a man is different. It is not my intention to insult, belittle or censor anyone. It is my opinion and perspective on what a real man should be.

A real man should be vulnerable to his partner. His partner should be the first person he seeks council for what is bothering him. He should be willing to share ALL his hopes and dreams, as well as his insecurities and fears. His partner should be willing (inside a couch fort) to hear, empathize and console him. Making every effort to be apart of the solution, building him up to be strong again.

His partner should not only be accepting of this, but require this level of emotional availability to maintain a successful long lasting relationship.

The man should be willing to support his partner in the exact same way. A deep emotional and spiritual connection is a must. Till death do you part; we is greater than me. Trusting best friends. NO ONE knows you better than your partner. NO SECRETS.

I have thought this way since I was a young child. At this point in my life I am willing to wait until I find someone who agrees with me. I’m honestly not sure if this is healthy. To be dependent on anyone like this. I’ve had my butt handed to me in the past because I trusted someone who I shouldn’t have. But my heart just can’t get past this. I want this level of emotional bond and deep down inside I can’t imagine anything less.

If someone else wants something different then thats great for you. This is what I need in a relationship. I’ll wait until I find it.

This. Some minor differences, but absolutely this.

 

[NotThrivingStillSmiling]

My definition of a man is different. It is not my intention to insult, belittle or censor anyone. It is my opinion and perspective on what a real man should be.

A real man should be vulnerable to his partner. His partner should be the first person he seeks council for what is bothering him. He should be willing to share ALL his hopes and dreams, as well as his insecurities and fears. His partner should be willing (inside a couch fort) to hear, empathize and console him. Making every effort to be apart of the solution, building him up to be strong again.

His partner should not only be accepting of this, but require this level of emotional availability to maintain a successful long lasting relationship.

The man should be willing to support his partner in the exact same way. A deep emotional and spiritual connection is a must. Till death do you part; we is greater than me. Trusting best friends. NO ONE knows you better than your partner. NO SECRETS.

I have thought this way since I was a young child. At this point in my life I am willing to wait until I find someone who agrees with me. I’m honestly not sure if this is healthy. To be dependent on anyone like this. I’ve had my butt handed to me in the past because I trusted someone who I shouldn’t have. But my heart just can’t get past this. I want this level of emotional bond and deep down inside I can’t imagine anything less.

If someone else wants something different then thats great for you. This is what I need in a relationship. I’ll wait until I find it.

thankyou for your wisdom x

 

[Unsigned]

OK here's my take on it.
There's a man's man and a ladies man.

A man's man is loyal.
He is honest.
He keeps his word.
He sticks to his guns.
He has a strong work ethic.
And even though he is far from perfect and makes plenty of bad decisions and mistakes, he tries to do what is right in the end, even if it means he'll take a beating or be humiliated for it -- he'll do it anyway because it is right. Even if that means going down with the ship.

A ladies man is a guy who knows how to act in front of women to make them feel attraction (those tingles I have spoken about in past posts).
He is romantic.
A charmer.
Dresses to the nines and always has an impressive car.
He may not be a bad person, but he will pull the wool over a girls eyes to get what he wants from her.

Some guys may be both. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But they call the second one a ladies man for a reason. He's the one who will get the girls.
No matter how much better of a person the first one may be.
Number 2 will win out with the females.
And other things as well, such as better job/career.
Honestly, loyalty and hard work only get you so far.
The charmers are the ones who reach the top.

But the thing is, you can't be something you are not.
So why drive yourself crazy?
Play the hand you are dealt.

I saw a beautiful young escort earlier tonight, then went out for Peking duck and drinks with a bunch of great guys.
Have a fantastic weekend everyone!

 

[CenotaphGirl]

My definition of a man is different. It is not my intention to insult, belittle or censor anyone. It is my opinion and perspective on what a real man should be.

A real man should be vulnerable to his partner. His partner should be the first person he seeks council for what is bothering him. He should be willing to share ALL his hopes and dreams, as well as his insecurities and fears. His partner should be willing (inside a couch fort) to hear, empathize and console him. Making every effort to be apart of the solution, building him up to be strong again.

His partner should not only be accepting of this, but require this level of emotional availability to maintain a successful long lasting relationship.

The man should be willing to support his partner in the exact same way. A deep emotional and spiritual connection is a must. Till death do you part; we is greater than me. Trusting best friends. NO ONE knows you better than your partner. NO SECRETS.

I have thought this way since I was a young child. At this point in my life I am willing to wait until I find someone who agrees with me. I’m honestly not sure if this is healthy. To be dependent on anyone like this. I’ve had my butt handed to me in the past because I trusted someone who I shouldn’t have. But my heart just can’t get past this. I want this level of emotional bond and deep down inside I can’t imagine anything less.

If someone else wants something different then thats great for you. This is what I need in a relationship. I’ll wait until I find it.

I think my only issue with this is a man needing a woman for anything to do with his strength. If a man is not strong due to his own sense of self respect and pride he is not alpha and therefore not for me romantically.


However, I do know relationships like how you described.

My friend is in a longterm relationship where they tell each other everything. Someone accused her of cheating on him and he didnt even shudder… no doubts just said no way. I thought wow, how amazing for someone to trust you like that and her him. I have been friends with her since 11 and could call her right now and say I slept with your fella and she would say “he’d never hurt me”. Their relationship has only 1 issue, he gets her to deal with all conflict, even when she was pregnant and vulnerable, it nearly broke them up, she never wanted a alpha but needed one when she was most vulnerable. Till this day she looks at him differently, scared of expanding their family due to fear he’d not protect her again.

I think its good you know what you need, and I hope you find it and more

 

[CenotaphGirl]

OK here's my take on it.
There's a man's man and a ladies man.

A man's man is loyal.
He is honest.
He keeps his word.
He sticks to his guns.
He has a strong work ethic.
And even though he is far from perfect and makes plenty of bad decisions and mistakes, he tries to do what is right in the end, even if it means he'll take a beating or be humiliated for it -- he'll do it anyway because it is right. Even if that means going down with the ship.

A ladies man is a guy who knows how to act in front of women to make them feel attraction (those tingles I have spoken about in past posts).
He is romantic.
A charmer.
Dresses to the nines and always has an impressive car.
He may not be a bad person, but he will pull the wool over a girls eyes to get what he wants from her.

Some guys may be both. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But they call the second one a ladies man for a reason. He's the one who will get the girls.
No matter how much better of a person the first one may be.
Number 2 will win out with the females.
And other things as well, such as better job/career.
Honestly, loyalty and hard work only get you so far.
The charmers are the ones who reach the top.

But the thing is, you can't be something you are not.
So why drive yourself crazy?
Play the hand you are dealt.

I saw a beautiful young escort earlier tonight, then went out for Peking duck and drinks with a bunch of great guys.
Have a fantastic weekend everyone!

hmmm not sure about this all I and maybe 70% of my friends seek is a man who is

Stoic
Tall
Rich/ giving
Assertive
Dominant
Over protective
A tiny bit controlling
Likes women…
Likes to talk !!! (Why do men I know hate talking so much?)

And for looks just white with blue eyes anything I find flawed can be ignored if he hits that brief.

My Rob is that, I respect him so much as a man almost as much as I respected my father… but all of a sudden his assertiveness dipped when he needed to speak up and let another man do it for him….I just cant shake that as quickly as I would like to.

 

[ardour]

A grizzled lone cowboy enters the chat. His boots a clankin' and his mustache flared along with his sun burnt nostrils. He sits down, pours himself a spot of tea; and takes a dainty, but masculine, mostly masculine, but a bit dainty, bite of a crumpet, as his other hand's pinky curled, as if in a genuflect respect to the tea he's holdin' in it. He clears his throat, preparing to lay down the proverbial law in the battle of wits and intellect that had ensued. All eyes are on him, as his lips part. He smacks them a bit, licking up a few crumbs of crumpet, and letting the rest fall to their doom in that grizzled forest of beard beneath that battle worn face.

"That my dear, is politeness," he grumbles in a plain, hushed, and hoarse tone.

The lady of the Inn over hears the conversation, rolling her eyes, as she folds the days bedding; "No my dear, politeness would have been wiping those boots of yours before helping yourself to those tea and crumpets."

The old grizzled cow warrior winces, as if mortally wounded, and gives the lady of the Inn an ireful glance. He paused a moment, took another bite of crumpet, and daintily (mostly extremely manly, just a slight bit dainty, it's tea after all) washed it down with a spot of tea, readying himself for his triumphant retort; "Is it now? Or is it a tactful way of saying the floors could be swept and mopped?"

The lady of the Inn huffed loader than a horse! She quickly composed herself. She waited till he finished his crumpets. She waited till he finished his tea. And then she brought out a mop and bucket of water, and stood over the grizzled cowboy with a look of triumph; and proceeded to replace his hat with an overturned mop bucket, water included, upon his head. "Well what do you call that?" she beamed at him, with a smile as glorious as a bloomin' sunflower.

He sat there for a moment, with no particular expression about him, as if there was a painting of the Mona Lisa herself, just on the wall in front of him, just calling to his careful consideration. He coughed a bit, cleared his throat, and spoke, "Well, now that's just rude."

Meanwhile the horse was outside, overhearing the lot of it. A fly landed on his hind quarters, rubbing his little fly hands together, scheming on where the best ******** of the day might be. When suddenly the horse let out a mean fart, and started talking to himself, "Yeah well what do you call that!" The fly, startled, and overwhelmed by an odiferously miasmic cloud of gas, exclaimed, "nonsense, ya dumb horse."

Someone missed their calling.

 

[TropicalStarfish]

Someone missed their calling.

I ain't dead yet...

 

[Unsigned]

Likes women…
Likes to talk !!! (Why do men I know hate talking so much?)

Those are absolutely traits of a ladies man.

And just to be clear on terminology, here in the US a "ladies man" means a man whom women want to be with.
It does not mean a "girly man", which is totally different.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

Those are absolutely traits of a ladies man.

And just to be clear on terminology, here in the US a "ladies man" means a man whom women want to be with.
It does not mean a "girly man", which is totally different.

I bet you hate talking? lol

 

[okidoke]

Those are absolutely traits of a ladies man.

And just to be clear on terminology, here in the US a "ladies man" means a man whom women want to be with.
It does not mean a "girly man", which is totally different.

To be more accurate, it's "ladies' man"

 

[Unsigned]

I bet you hate talking? lol

I am not one for small talk. It annoys me somewhat.

I have never been the type for "cold approaching" women. I have always assumed they would rather not have me bother them and I don't want to be seen as a pest, so I leave them alone. In fact, I NEVER did this at all until I was in my 50s, and even then, it was only when friends/coworkers would cajole me into doing it. I only really did it to placate them. Not something I enjoy doing.

I've never had a "female friend", nor have I had ever had a "deep" discussion with a female coworker.

I talk to regulars I've had, but only when I am physically with them. I never just randomly call them, and very seldomly text them.

"Hate" is a strong word, but yeah, I am not much of a talker with women.
With other men, I'd say my talking level is mid range. Not overly talkative, but not a "silent sam" either.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

I am not one for small talk. It annoys me somewhat.

I have never been the type for "cold approaching" women. I have always assumed they would rather not have me bother them and I don't want to be seen as a pest, so I leave them alone. In fact, I NEVER did this at all until I was in my 50s, and even then, it was only when friends/coworkers would cajole me into doing it. I only really did it to placate them. Not something I enjoy doing.

I've never had a "female friend", nor have I had ever had a "deep" discussion with a female coworker.

I talk to regulars I've had, but only when I am physically with them. I never just randomly call them, and very seldomly text them.

"Hate" is a strong word, but yeah, I am not much of a talker with women.
With other men, I'd say my talking level is mid range. Not overly talkative, but not a "silent sam" either.

omg yes yeps you are not alone in this, this is statistically true of most men despising small talk, but I think men like to gossip more than they let on but cant find stats to back it up… if you was married you’d be a driveway man for sure, like my father

 

[Walnut]

I feel that society confuses Alpha and Capitalist as the same thing. In my mind they are different. Please be aware that I am deliberately speaking with gender neutral language because I feel the term Alpha Male (I’m not calling anyone on this forum sexist. Just describing my own personal belief in the direction I believe society should be moving) is an outdated and sexist term. I believe gender is fluid and anyone can be an alpha.

An alpha’s character is defined by their integrity, emotional and mental awareness. Lying, cheating, manipulating, selfishness would be traits that would immediately disqualify them from being an alpha.

They do not define winning by how many losers they are surrounded with, but by comparing themselves to yesterday. An alpha believes their greatest and only competitor is themself. They do not take pride in others weakness, or make any effort to even notice it.

They are true leaders, as well as followers. Inspiring by leading through their example. Including how to be a good team player and follower of another leader. An alpha values teamwork over the individual.

I believe an alpha must also know how to be vulnerable. It takes emotional and mental awareness to understand how to be strong, and when its time to ask for help. I don’t see this as weakness, but strength of character to seek help when required. Another alpha would be proud to help another gain the inner peace they enjoy.

True alphas are not afraid of each other. They relish the opportunity to encourage greatness in others.

 

[CenotaphGirl]

I feel that society confuses Alpha and Capitalist as the same thing. In my mind they are different. Please be aware that I am deliberately speaking with gender neutral language because I feel the term Alpha Male (I’m not calling anyone on this forum sexist. Just describing my own personal belief in the direction I believe society should be moving) is an outdated and sexist term. I believe gender is fluid and anyone can be an alpha.

An alpha’s character is defined by their integrity, emotional and mental awareness. Lying, cheating, manipulating, selfishness would be traits that would immediately disqualify them from being an alpha.

They do not define winning by how many losers they are surrounded with, but by comparing themselves to yesterday. An alpha believes their greatest and only competitor is themself. They do not take pride in others weakness, or make any effort to even notice it.

They are true leaders, as well as followers. Inspiring by leading through their example. Including how to be a good team player and follower of another leader. An alpha values teamwork over the individual.

I believe an alpha must also know how to be vulnerable. It takes emotional and mental awareness to understand how to be strong, and when its time to ask for help. I don’t see this as weakness, but strength of character to seek help when required. Another alpha would be proud to help another gain the inner peace they enjoy.

True alphas are not afraid of each other. They relish the opportunity to encourage greatness in others.

I respect your opinion on this however… I only discuss alpha males not alpha characters as they mean little to me in terms of romance.

alpha male
noun [ C usually singular ]

UK

/ˌæl.fə ˈmeɪl/ US

/ˌæl.fə ˈmeɪl/

BIOLOGY specialized
the most successful and powerfulmale in any group

a strong and successful man who likes to be in charge of others

I cant discuss alpha characters as that has no importance to me romantically, but they sound less like alphas and more like self focused and self disciplined people which are also amazing qualities

As much as people want to talk about gender I cant, I havent got the tact for that conversation

 

[Punisher]

I feel that society confuses Alpha and Capitalist as the same thing. In my mind they are different. Please be aware that I am deliberately speaking with gender neutral language because I feel the term Alpha Male (I’m not calling anyone on this forum sexist. Just describing my own personal belief in the direction I believe society should be moving) is an outdated and sexist term. I believe gender is fluid and anyone can be an alpha.

An alpha’s character is defined by their integrity, emotional and mental awareness. Lying, cheating, manipulating, selfishness would be traits that would immediately disqualify them from being an alpha.

They do not define winning by how many losers they are surrounded with, but by comparing themselves to yesterday. An alpha believes their greatest and only competitor is themself. They do not take pride in others weakness, or make any effort to even notice it.

They are true leaders, as well as followers. Inspiring by leading through their example. Including how to be a good team player and follower of another leader. An alpha values teamwork over the individual.

I believe an alpha must also know how to be vulnerable. It takes emotional and mental awareness to understand how to be strong, and when its time to ask for help. I don’t see this as weakness, but strength of character to seek help when required. Another alpha would be proud to help another gain the inner peace they enjoy.

True alphas are not afraid of each other. They relish the opportunity to encourage greatness in others.

Don't ever talk like this to a potential partner. No woman wants to hear a man talk like that, only lesbians and white, liberal women who would never **** you.