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I never said I didn't care.

Seems like I misinterpreted your post perhaps.
👀 thats because you do care my little kiwi 🥝 😇✨ it was super unclear as I was trying not to change the convo in true ceno fashion 😅
 
if he didnt care he wouldnt be paying he would be out spiking
See, I would never do this.
And if by some chance I did I am CERTAIN the female would press charges against me.

I have known girls this has happened too (obviously I meet a lot of girls that have serious issues) and what strikes me as strange is how they never seem to go to the cops. And I mean this happened with guys they met in nightclubs, not during escort sessions.

I am not trying start an argument or anything here simply making an observation: I think girls maybe don't go to the cops because they are giving a guy they find physically attractive a break, even though he did this to them? Is that possible?

But I am 100% certain if I did this type of thing, a "creepy old guy" like me, they would go to the cops. Or maybe that's just...I dunno...my conscience kicking in...
 
See, I would never do this.
And if by some chance I did I am CERTAIN the female would press charges against me.

I have known girls this has happened too (obviously I meet a lot of girls that have serious issues) and what strikes me as strange is how they never seem to go to the cops. And I mean this happened with guys they met in nightclubs, not during escort sessions.

I am not trying start an argument or anything here simply making an observation: I think girls maybe don't go to the cops because they are giving a guy they find physically attractive a break, even though he did this to them? Is that possible?

But I am 100% certain if I did this type of thing, a "creepy old guy" like me, they would go to the cops. Or maybe that's just...I dunno...my conscience kicking in...
No. That I do know about. It's, by far, more commonly a mixture of fear, shame and/or discouragment that anything is going to actually be done about it by the law. After having gone through the process and actually having someone jailed for it, ALL the pressure is on the victim. The amount of things, both true and not true, said of them discourages more than a few, even in very clear cut cases. Then, there's fear of reprisal, shame at even remembering that it happened.
It's unsurprising so few denounce. Which makes me admire the courage of those who do even more.
That's something that's difficult to grasp, unless you have a great deal of empathy and go through the process with a victim. Saying it's hard is an understatement.

So no, no one is given "a break".
 
I am not trying start an argument or anything here simply making an observation: I think girls maybe don't go to the cops because they are giving a guy they find physically attractive a break, even though he did this to them? Is that possible?
I didn't go to the cops. I didn't want anyone else to know. They would have said it was my fault or that I deserved it or that I asked for it or whatever other ******** reason they could come up with. And then there's whether or not they would even believe you at all. "Who's going to believe ME?" Doesn't matter if they are "physically attractive" or not, it's wrong, it's disgusting and it shouldn't happen. I don't care if you are drunk or if they are drunk. There is NO excuse for it. Whether they are the worst looking human in the world or the best, it's still wrong.
 
They would have said it was my fault or that I deserved it or that I asked for it or whatever other ******** reason they could come up with. And then there's whether or not they would even believe you at all. "Who's going to believe ME?"
And these were MY thoughts. Doesn't matter what the TRUTH was, that's how I saw it. That's the view of a lot of people it happens to.
 
I have given up as I have been taught too many times by women that I am unworthy and that they only have interest in men with better genetics than I possess.

I'm afraid of this as well, but in a slightly different way.

I'm afraid I'm not genetically gifted enough, to get good enough at anything, to have enough career success to make enough money to play the protector/provider male gender role, and to be impressive and interesting/exciting/fun enough.

I worry about genetic talent in the same way that others here worry about things like face and height.
I can only hope that it's just fear holding me back and that I'm capable of more than this.
Sometimes I think I have to be, this can't be it. I can only hope so.
 
to have enough career success to make enough money to play the protector/provider male gender role
I am a classic provider/protector, and I can tell you this from experience...it is not enough. Not even close. Unless you are willing to be with a "plain jane". From what I have gleaned in my 57.5 years, pretty girls...just wanna have fun. And I ain't fun.
 
I'm afraid of this as well, but in a slightly different way.

I'm afraid I'm not genetically gifted enough, to get good enough at anything, to have enough career success to make enough money to play the protector/provider male gender role, and to be impressive and interesting/exciting/fun enough.

I worry about genetic talent in the same way that others here worry about things like face and height.
I can only hope that it's just fear holding me back and that I'm capable of more than this.
Sometimes I think I have to be, this can't be it. I can only hope so.
I understand but I think that the difference between success with women & having a successful career are not really comparable. As long as you can make enough to live on, making a lot of money is not a must and is often dependent more upon how hard you are willing to work rather than genetic talent. If a women is truly attracted to you your lack of money will not be an issue. On the other hand, attraction is binary, very much dependent on a mans height & face and cannot be negotiated.
 

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