Self Pity Vs. Self Discipline

[ForGrantedWife]

Since this is a very personal subject, there will be different takes on it. Everyone is so very sensitive about their depression and feels attacked by any suggestion on how to deal with it if it goes contrary to how they feel. I think that's the problem here more than anything. I personally don't feel Lady Gaga Snerd was trying to hurt anyone, and was indeed trying to help if at all possible for those this approach might work for. Her heart was in the right place. One poster seems to have a problem with anything Snerd says all the time which puts her on the defense, and then she gets into it deeper by trying to explain herself. But you know I get her point at least where I'm concerned. I get part of what she's saying and I feel guilty of wallowing in my despair sometimes in a fit of self-pity. Guilty as charged. I can admit it, it doesn't bother me a bit. And yes it is a self-indulgence for myself anyway to wallow instead of act. I know it is, I know it at the time. Last time it happened I had a good cry and then got mad at myself for being weak (I mean just me people, I don't mean you so please don't take it that way). I jumped up and went to work around here instead of staying in bed crying. And I didn't feel any better inside but at least I wasn't being a slouch during it. That was better than nothing for me personally. I'm not suggesting any of this toward anyone else so don't get up in arms and go on the defense please. This is just what works for me like it does for Snerd. I'm voicing support for the thread as it works for me when I'm in the dumps big time. I know what I need to do, whether I actually do it every time it happens is another story

 

[EveWasFramed]

Please leave me alone. I am just trying to talk to people that wish to talk to me.

Im a moderator - anytime ANYONE is doing something that isn't good for the members here, you can expect the forum staff to take notice of it.
When you make a thread, you have no control over who comes and goes from that thread. If someone wishes to disagree with you, they have that right, as long as no forum rules are being violated. And just because someone replies or "wishes to talk to you" doesn't mean they will agree with you (as seen in this thread).
Leave you alone? I read HUNDREDS of posts here every week. If you think I'm singling you out, don't. I apply the rules to everyone the same.
The staff here have all been around for a good while - we've seen the kind of issues that can come up when members are made to feel like that are crap because they can't seem to pick themselves up and move forward the way others can. And regardless of what you think, everyone is not like you and can't just wake up one day and say, "Oh - I think today is the day that I will change."

This forum has an abundance of people who have tried everything under the sun...meds, therapy, etc. and nothing has worked for them. How do you think it makes them feel when you run across one of those members and tell them to be like Nike and "just do it?"
It probably makes a lot of them feel worthless. That is the type of thing that needs to be avoided.

Again, I will remind everyone that when you make a thread/post on a public forum, you can EXPECT people to disagree and your content to be scrutinized.

 

[Alienated]

And ForGrantedWife, that's what happened with us as well, just a simple misunderstanding of views and approaches. I apologize if I offend or hurt your feelings. I tend to rant and give advice or opinion at the same time, and that can be very easily mistaken.

Especially with something I am going through myself.

 

[EveWasFramed]

I personally don't feel Lady Gaga Snerd was trying to hurt anyone...Her heart was in the right place.

I do agree with that statement and I told her that as well, in a PM.
I just think that one must be careful with such a subject. As you said, people are very sensitive about their depression or other issues. Sometimes it doesn't take a lot to seriously distress someone.

Good post by the way.

 

[Lady Gaga Snerd]

Seriously if you want me to delete my account then I will. I offered good advice from My Point of View on the **** Addiction thread and you attacked me there. I can offer no other point of view but my own. I said Nothing foul , insulting or offensive. My point of view is simply one of many. As for who the mod is here I really haven't been here long enough to know who is who. So just delete my account if you don't want me here . Geez.

 

[Sci-Fi]

Moderators are anyone who's name is green like Eve's, Minus or mine.

 

[Lady Gaga Snerd]

I don't know. I post on other boards. I thought this would be a board I wanted to join. Never mind

 

[EveWasFramed]

I offered good advice from My Point of View on the **** Addiction thread and you attacked me there.

I KNOW you aren't saying that I attacked you on that thread because I told the person who DID make a snide comment to cut it out.
So who exactly are you accusing of attacking you on that other thread? The person who DID say something hasn't posted on THIS thread in the past several pages, so one might think you were talking about me?

 

[Lady Gaga Snerd]

I am not interested in fighting. We can agree to disagree. Good night.

 

[EveWasFramed]

I am not interested in fighting. We can agree to disagree. Good night.

I will NOT agree to disagree if you're suggesting I attacked you on the other thread. I CLEARLY did not, as shown below.
Maybe you should have gone back and read the post before making such a wild accusation. You are CLEARLY wrong about me attacking you on that thread.

That really explains allot, and why I have you on my ignore list Lady...( That term used loosely )

That's a direct personal insult. Cut it out..

 

[ForGrantedWife]

Oh my gosh can't we all just agree to disagree and hug it out? Not everyone is going to agree on everything. People have different views on the same problem Do we really have to get out the boxing gloves on every thread? I can't be the only one this is stressing out. This warfare is hard to read all the time for everyone. This is not a one-sided thing here Please someone gracefully call a truce! I'm not even in this and I feel like walking out waving a white flag. I'm thinking about leaving for a kinder forum at this point if there is such a thing. So much is simply taken the wrong way and very very personally all the time.

 

[EveWasFramed]

Oh my gosh can't we all just agree to disagree and hug it out?

She shouldn't have accused me of attacking her when I was defending her on the other thread. And then instead of admitting she misspoke, she said we'd have to agree to disagree. What she said was completely untrue - it's not about a disagreement on a viewpoint.

But sorry you're feeling stressed about the situation.

Edit: Maybe it's just best to close this thread. No one has really care for it since the OP said that depressed people were narcissists.