This IS THE MOST feministic 'anti male' article Ive ever read!

[Retrospective81]

How to Talk to a Woman Without Being a Creep
(article is hetero-focused)

Harassing women = bad

http://jezebel.com/5981581/how-to-talk-t...ng-a-creep

The writer of the article states that 'woman arent stupid' but this article takes the bloody biscuit. Us men arent stupid either!. I think most men here like me, KNOW that this isnt the way we'd go about doing things. There are few men like this BUT VERY FEW. Due to mental illness or other reasons.

All ths 'feminist' does is paint the majority of men in a very bad light and suest we need someone like her to tell us what to do.

It's no wonder why most decent men are single if this is the crap we have to put up with from people like her.

What was she on when she wrote such a piece of bullying 'anti male' crap like this?

She is an offense to the good men AND women that are out there and on this board.

Rant over! Over to you!

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And please, noone try tt tell me to not take offense to this as I bloody well do and have a right to!

 

[Dissident]

The thing that bothered me when I read it was that it didn't live up to its name at all. It should be titled "How Not to Talk to a Woman Because You're a Creep." Except for a single, solitary sentence, there's nothing in there that says "yes, do it this way." If not for the fact that it addresses things almost nobody does anyway it would almost seem to basically say "just don't talk to women."

 

[Retrospective81]

The thing that bothered me when I read it was that it didn't live up to its name at all. It should be titled "How Not to Talk to a Woman Because You're a Creep." Except for a single, solitary sentence, there's nothing in there that says "yes, do it this way." If not for the fact that it addresses things almost nobody does anyway it would almost seem to basically say "just don't talk to women."

'just dont talk to women' thats exactly what Im thinking. Typical of a feminist who think they are 'the best thign since sliced bread' Exactly the sort of thing thats a turn off to most decent men. This is an example of the 'feminist' movement goin too far. Its not enough they get everything in a divorce, now they dont want you to talk to them.

 

[perfanoff]

Don't even pay attention to stuff like that guys. In the end people are entitled to be judgmental of other people, deserved or not. Just let it slide like a drop of oil, make the conclusion about the specific person and move on.

 

[mintymint]

There are few men like this BUT VERY FEW. Due to mental illness or other reasons.

Street harassment and other similar behaviors are a major issue for women. It's not a made up thing. There are many women who take steps to avoid being noticed when ever in public out of fear and/or discomfort cause by such behavior, BASED ON EXPERIENCE. They pretend to talk on their cell phone, they pretend to listen to music, they become hypervigilant, they avoid going out in public altogether when possible, etc. I know this personally from having female friends, but also from data like this:

Street harassment often begins around puberty. In a 2008 study of 811 women conducted by Stop Street Harassment, almost 1 in 4 women had experienced street harassment by age 12 (7th grade) and nearly 90% by age 19. While street harassment is most frequent for teenagers and women in their 20s, the chance of it happening never goes away and women in their 80s have shared stories.

There's much more data out there that will support this, as well as personal anecdotes, I'm sure. I think that the speed at which you attempt to dismiss all of this shows how out of touch you are with reality and with women in general.

It's no wonder why most decent men are single if this is the crap we have to put up with from people like her.

Okay, WHAT?! How would this article keep any man single according to your own stated perceptions. A woman is going to come along and read it and think: "gee, all the men I ever encounter in real life are so decent and respectful of me in every way, but this sardonic article on a gossip site has convinced me to shun them all"? Warped reality alert. I'm really not sorry that there's this supposedly massive group of single, decent men out there who deride women for standing up for themselves because you're all just such nice guys.

All ths 'feminist' does is paint the majority of men in a very bad light and suest we need someone like her to tell us what to do....What was she on when she wrote such a piece of bullying 'anti male' crap like this?

She doesn't say the majority of men are terrible people, but if you were a man and knew of the prevalence of this behavior, would you get defensive over someone pointing out the truth because it pertained negatively to a group you're a part of, or would you feel the need to somehow rectify this widespread abuse that is clearly affecting and victimizing very large numbers of women. Oh, right, you'd do the decent thing.

And please, noone try tt tell me to not take offense to this as I bloody well do and have a right to!

Well, good luck with all that.

 

[perfanoff]

That's okay mintymint, the article is theoretically useful but here's two things for you:

- People who are rude like that on the street could give a flying f about this article, every single one of them,
- Very few, if any, people on this actual forum DO this kind of thing.

So practically this article just gives negative feedback to lonely guys, stressing and discouraging them further from taking chances with women.

 

[mintymint]

- People who are rude like that on the street could give a flying f about this article, every single one of them,

That site is aimed more at women to begin with, and judging from the tone of that piece, as with most pieces on there, much of it was meant to convey humor/entertainment. I highly doubt it was actually posted there to effectively school large numbers of men in proper behavior. So whether or not those people read it in large numbers probably isn't that relevant. I was really just responding the OP's reaction, not the article.

- Very few, if any, people on this actual forum DO this kind of thing.

I have a hard time understanding why that would affect any veracity the article had. Or why it would affect one's reaction, for this discussion targets society as a whole.

So practically this article just gives negative feedback to lonely guys, stressing and discouraging them further from taking chances with women.

Maybe, but it's written for a wide audience, not just lonely guys. It's kind of odd to judge it based on it's impact to such a specific group of people. I don't think you need to alter reality in order to coddle lonely guys, especially when there's ongoing abuse out there that's worse than tangentially hurt feelings.

 

[SophiaGrace]

I can't walk around at night alone in the city. I get strange guys coming up to me and trying to get my attention.

They don't do this during the day time. It's threatening. Why do they try to talk to me during the night when I'm trying to go to a convenience store close to college? I just get a really bad feeling about it. And don't try to tell me it's my fault for walking around at night alone. This is the kind of thing the article is trying to address.

Then there was this time when I was being circled by a guy in a car as I walked back to college because I couldn't find a taxi at the train station. He kept asking me if I wanted a ride and I kept trying to act like he wasn't there because why the heck would i get in a car with a stranger? I also had a backpack on, so he should have known that I was a student, and the college was 2 blocks away. Please stop circling me in your card dude.....you know where I'm going....

You think this is some random isolated phenomenon? No. It's not. I don't go outside of campus anymore during the night because of these things that make me feel threatened/unsafe.

Look, you weren't born a female, so I have no idea why you think that you know what females go through and how they feel. Please stop acting like you do.

 

[VanillaCreme]

It's no wonder why most decent men are single if this is the crap we have to put up with from people like her.

Okay, WHAT?! How would this article keep any man single according to your own stated perceptions. A woman is going to come along and read it and think: "gee, all the men I ever encounter in real life are so decent and respectful of me in every way, but this sardonic article on a gossip site has convinced me to shun them all"? Warped reality alert. I'm really not sorry that there's this supposedly massive group of single, decent men out there who deride women for standing up for themselves because you're all just such nice guys.

I would have to agree with this.

All ths 'feminist' does is paint the majority of men in a very bad light and suest we need someone like her to tell us what to do....What was she on when she wrote such a piece of bullying 'anti male' crap like this?

She doesn't say the majority of men are terrible people, but if you were a man and knew of the prevalence of this behavior, would you get defensive over someone pointing out the truth because it pertained negatively to a group you're a part of, or would you feel the need to somehow rectify this widespread abuse that is clearly affecting and victimizing very large numbers of women. Oh, right, you'd do the decent thing.

And this.

Be offended all you want over some silly article you read online. That's no one's business what you read into and put effort into thinking about, even if it is silly. But these feminist articles don't keep men single. Why anyone would think so is beyond me. She's one lady, with one opinion. Not all of us women - or even men for that matter - would even blink an eye at anything she writes.

If you're single, don't blame this lady or the views she has. She's got nothing to do with your love life. That would be like saying the reason why Ford went bankrupt is because I like Chevy cars. Has no relation to anything what-so-ever.

Just as you believe you have the right to become offended, she has that same right to write about and voice her own opinion. She's doing nothing different than what you did in your original post. Simply stated her thoughts and opinions. None of it is fact, and no one has to believe in it.

Oh, and not to mention, the blog name caught me off-guard as well... Jezebel... Come on now...