Why Can't We All Just Get Along?!

[ardour]

I personally appreciate the presence of such diverse tones and personalities here, even the ones I don't like and bitch about.

Agree, it's part of what makes the forums interesting.

Why should disagreement be censored out just for the sake of the oversensensitive individuals here?

 

[bulmabriefs144]

In my experience of other forums (mostly Finnish) the atmosphere here is smoothly pretty good.

I would have to concur. I've been on some pretty vicious forums in comparison to this one. You people are just ripe for a hostile takeover.

Hidden-Street is way worse than this one. And it's a forum based on a half-dead MMO. You'd think people would relax.

 

[Doubt The Rabbit]

I personally appreciate the presence of such diverse tones and personalities here, even the ones I don't like and bitch about.

Agree, it's part of what makes the forums interesting.

Why should disagreements be censored out just for the sake of the oversensensitive individuals here?

I wouldn't word it that way, exactly.
Bearing in mind that I still feel that people shouldn't be allowed to name-call, bash, or flame all over the place, I also feel that it is merely another practice of acceptance to allow other members to express themselves however they need to. Like Deb said, balance is key. Those of us who have more abrasive characters can't go hog wild, either, but it doesn't mean we should be squashed.

 

[EveWasFramed]

but it doesn't mean we should be squashed.

No squashed bunnies allowed.

 

[bulmabriefs144]

I personally appreciate the presence of such diverse tones and personalities here, even the ones I don't like and bitch about.

Agree, it's part of what makes the forums interesting.

Why should disagreements be censored out just for the sake of the oversensensitive individuals here?

I wouldn't word it that way, exactly.
Bearing in mind that I still feel that people shouldn't be allowed to name-call, bash, or flame all over the place, I also feel that it is merely another practice of acceptance to allow other members to express themselves however they need to. Like Deb said, balance is key. Those of us who have more abrasive characters can't go hog wild, either, but it doesn't mean we should be squashed.

Like this?

 

[Doubt The Rabbit]

but it doesn't mean we should be squashed.

No squashed bunnies allowed.

I'd be okay with it as long as you'll make me into rabbit soup (goo)

I personally appreciate the presence of such diverse tones and personalities here, even the ones I don't like and bitch about.

Agree, it's part of what makes the forums interesting.

Why should disagreements be censored out just for the sake of the oversensensitive individuals here?

I wouldn't word it that way, exactly.
Bearing in mind that I still feel that people shouldn't be allowed to name-call, bash, or flame all over the place, I also feel that it is merely another practice of acceptance to allow other members to express themselves however they need to. Like Deb said, balance is key. Those of us who have more abrasive characters can't go hog wild, either, but it doesn't mean we should be squashed.

Like this?

Yes, no human under any circumstance should look like that.

 

[EveWasFramed]

Yes, no human under any circumstance should look like that.

I dunno...his shoes are kinda cute.

 

[Doubt The Rabbit]

Yes, no human under any circumstance should look like that.

I dunno...his shoes are kinda cute.

All four of them.

 

[WishingWell]

Oh boy! I always was upset that no ones posted on any of my threads, now I wonder if I was better off when they didn't.

 

[ardour]

I wouldn't word it that way, exactly.
Bearing in mind that I still feel that people shouldn't be allowed to name-call, bash, or flame all over the place,

Read the posts from members who take it upon themselves to make over-the-top accusations of name calling and offensiveness, people are giving their point of view too much credit.

The mods seem to consistently suspend members and close threads once genuinely insulting attacks have begun. There's no need for anyone to question their judgement, and no need for anyone to push their overly sensitive worldview onto the rest of us either.

The forums aren't just here as some online support group either. People should be able to be themselves and argue for their opinions where appropriate (as you have said)

Oh boy! I always was upset that no ones posted on any of my threads, now I wonder if I was better off when they didn't.

example A

 

[Walley]

the post you are referring to here was obviously a joke and need not be taken as anything else. How ridiculous

one persons joke is another persons insult.
it may seem ridiculous to you but maybe not so much to someone else who may be suicidal.
i made a joke a couple of weeks ago here that was not much different. and i returned to find and angry pm in my box and a wall of text rant about it later that day.
so what did i do?
even though i felt it odvious it was a joke. i apologized and desided i wouldnt do that again. its a place full of sensitive people and i will respect that and save the jokes for more apropriate places.

one of the issues thats upset a few members lately is the thread claiming the mass shooting of children was an inti gun conspiracy. people shouldnt have opened theres mouths in public about it i know.. but it did seem to be saying that topics like that are fine as long as no one swears at him.
the existence of that thread was enough to change my mood that day. and may others. i hope the op was given a warning at least..

 

[Felix]

i hope the op was given a warning at least..

Why exactly? for speaking his mind? Maybe it was too soon to make that topic, I'll give you that, but no one should be that upset over someones opinion.

Many of us complain about being left apart for being different. We shouldn't do what we criticize.

 

[theraab]

The mods seem to consistently suspend members and close threads once genuinely insulting attacks have begun.

If by consistently you mean often, you're right. If you mean that it is done with consistency (as in, they do it equally to all offenders), I might disagree.

 

[ardour]

the post you are referring to here was obviously a joke and need not be taken as anything else. How ridiculous

one persons joke is another persons insult.
it may seem ridiculous to you but maybe not so much to someone else who may be suicidal.
i made a joke a couple of weeks ago here that was not much different. and i returned to find and angry pm in my box and a wall of text rant about it later that day.
so what did i do?
even though i felt it odvious it was a joke. i apologized and desided i wouldnt do that again. its a place full of sensitive people and i will respect that and save the jokes for more apropriate places.

one of the issues thats upset a few members lately is the thread claiming the mass shooting of children was an inti gun conspiracy. people shouldnt have opened theres mouths in public about it i know.. but it did seem to be saying that topics like that are fine as long as no one swears at him.
the existence of that thread was enough to change my mood that day. and may others. i hope the op was given a warning at least..

We should all have to walk on eggshells in case someone suicidal gets pushed over the edge?? Seems like a great way to stifle debate and remove any life from the forums. Perhaps we should go through our entire lives interacting with people on that basis just in case.

One person’s sensitivities are going to different to another’s – so what are these standards you propose we all stick to - no joking or criticism at all? Imagine all the illuminating (want of better word) conversations that would never have occurred for that.

Ultimately adults are responsible for how they react even while depressed. Thoughtfulness when the OP is upset is preferable, on the other hand they have chosen to create a topic on a relatively open forum that will be commented on by strangers, and should have to accept that every comment may not be as respectful as they might like.

Sincerely held opinions no matter how stupid or annoying aren't objectively offensive simply by their likelihood to cause offense. Actually nothing is objectively offensive but as in society there are limits when individuals or groups are attacked. There’s no reason why these forums needs to be more strictly controlled. That topic was slammed by members anyway so there's an element of policing going on.

 

[Lone Apothecary]

Hmm, while it'd be nice if we could all get along, things would stagnate pretty quickly if that was the case.

I've been here for a little while now and this has become my second favorite forum (my favorite forum is currently out of commission, so I'm spending more time on here). I must say, it's among the friendliest forums I've had the pleasure of frequenting. There's drama everywhere and people will inevitably boil over sometimes, but overall I really don't see any big problems.

 

[Walley]

well.. i guess if its popular opinion that threads like that which are designed to instigate and spread sick lies. and people feel thats the type of stuff they want to see here..
guess i'm out too.
i didnt come here to debate ignorant propaganda like that. that thread deserved the hatred it attracted and i can bet there will be more posted soon.

i thought this place was for a more sensitive crowd that tries to sympathize and help each other. cares about other peoples issues... odviously some here dont. insensative jokes are more important.
but there are some people here that do.
i respect the staff here. i know its hard to navigate through this type of thing.
but theres a bit to much careless behavior by a few members here lately that dont represent the spirit of the forum imho.

i honestly thought that of all places.. people here would understand the difference.
ask yourself. why are you here?
that's what i doing right now...

 

[Lone Apothecary]

well.. i guess if its popular opinion that threads like that which are designed to instigate and spread sick lies. and people feel thats the type of stuff they want to see here.. guess i'm out too. i didnt come here to debate ignorant propaganda like that. that thread deserved the hatred it attracted and i can bet there will be more posted soon.

i thought this place was for a more sensitive crowd that tries to sympathize and help each other. cares about other peoples issues... odviously some here dont. insensative jokes are more important. but there are some people here that do. i respect the staff here. i know its hard to navigate through this type of thing. but theres a bit to much careless behavior by a few members here lately that dont represent the spirit of the forum imho.

i honestly thought that of all places.. people here would understand the difference. ask yourself. why are you here? that's what i doing right now...

Not to be rude, but why not objectively point out how ludicrous something is and move on? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, so why not just dismiss them if they do not stand up the burden of proof?
Insensitive or not, if they can't prove their points beyond a shadow of a doubt, there's no reason anyone should pay any heed to them.

 

[ardour]

well.. i guess if its popular opinion that threads like that which are designed to instigate and spread sick lies. and people feel thats the type of stuff they want to see here..
guess i'm out too.
i didnt come here to debate ignorant propaganda like that. that thread deserved the hatred it attracted and i can bet there will be more posted soon.

i thought this place was for a more sensitive crowd that tries to sympathize and help each other. cares about other peoples issues... odviously some here dont. insensative jokes are more important.
but there are some people here that do.
i respect the staff here. i know its hard to navigate through this type of thing.
but theres a bit to much careless behavior by a few members here lately that dont represent the spirit of the forum imho.

i honestly thought that of all places.. people here would understand the difference.
ask yourself. why are you here?
that's what i doing right now...

Since when does someone get to define the purpose of the site.

Do the forums not cover a variety of areas? The topic in question was in the controversial/"up for debate" section for heaven's sake. If you don't like reading something like that then don't go there.

There's a big place for mutual support, sure, but also a reasonably free and honest exchange of opinion and with it emotion. Who are you to demand the entire site conform to your standards and preferences?

I have yet to come across a topic where the OP appeared to be in real trouble and people replied with nasty dismissive comments.

I don't know why you guys have to make a point of telling everyone you're leaving.

 

[Sci-Fi]

The mods seem to consistently suspend members and close threads once genuinely insulting attacks have begun.

If by consistently you mean often, you're right. If you mean that it is done with consistency (as in, they do it equally to all offenders), I might disagree.

Actually, it doesn't matter who you are. I've closed threads with people I am friends here with and banned them as well. The more reports and complaints we get the more attention gets brought to a thread and the more we watch it. We'd rather people settle down on their own and not have to close a thread, but that doesn't always happen.

 

[Walley]

Since when does someone get to define the purpose of the site.

Do the forums not cover a variety of areas? The topic in question was in the controversial/"up for debate" section for heaven's sake. If you don't like reading something like that then don't go there.

There's a big place for mutual support, sure, but also a reasonably free and honest exchange of opinion and with it emotion. Who are you to demand the entire site conform to your standards and preferences?

I have yet to come across a topic where the OP appeared to be in real trouble and people replied with nasty dismissive comments.

I don't know why you guys have to make a point of telling everyone you're leaving.

I'm glad to see that you edited your original post a couple of times to remove name calling and aggression.
if nothing else, this thread may have made some people think a bit more about there own posts. temporarily..
although you missed the point of mine.
when stating the precieved standards of this forum, i used the commonly known acronym "imho" which means "in my honest opinion" and so I was not dictating nor claiming to be the moral guide for this place. simply stating what my perceptions where. and I have just as much a right to wish for a higher standard of comments as you do to insist on lower standards.
I don't see anywhere in my comments where I am demanding anything. so lets not put words in my mouth just to try and diminish my point of view.

the point ot telling people i'm leaving should be fairly clear. hopefully it makes people think a bit more about off handed remarks and that just because YOU don't see a problem with it, doesnt mean other people feel the same. who is the one really trying to dictate the standards here?
it's not all about that dumb conspiracy thread. its the general carelessness of comments that builds up on people. as I said, I have done it too and was reminded of why we should be watching our tounges here. I guess I could have just brushed him off and told him to have a thicker skin, toughen up, grow some balls, walk it off. does that attitude sound familliar to anyone reading this?
does that kinda talk help people around here?
i think not.

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