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blackdot said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
There is blatant racism and discrimination in online dating here in the US! If I was a white male or a black male, I would definitely be getting more messages and response from women! Life is so unfair!

As a white male who gets no messages or responses, does that mean you get less than 0 responses? That's extremely strange.

Are you sure that you got zero / nada responses from any women in online dating websites??? 
From what I hear, white/Caucasian males have better chances of hooking up online dating.
 
GrayAndLonesome said:
blackdot said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
There is blatant racism and discrimination in online dating here in the US! If I was a white male or a black male, I would definitely be getting more messages and response from women! Life is so unfair!

As a white male who gets no messages or responses, does that mean you get less than 0 responses? That's extremely strange.

Are you sure that you got zero / nada responses from any women in online dating websites??? 
From what I hear, white/Caucasian males have better chances of hooking up online dating.

Maybe someone THOUGHT about sending him a message.  Does that count as 1/2?
 
GrayAndLonesome said:
blackdot said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
There is blatant racism and discrimination in online dating here in the US! If I was a white male or a black male, I would definitely be getting more messages and response from women! Life is so unfair!

As a white male who gets no messages or responses, does that mean you get less than 0 responses? That's extremely strange.

Are you sure that you got zero / nada responses from any women in online dating websites??? 
From what I hear, white/Caucasian males have better chances of hooking up online dating.

Dating websites, at least for men, are hit or miss. Here are some stats I've heard about, and they seem to ring true to me.

- Men FAR outnumber women, probably 10-1 or even 25-1. As a result, women have to be extremely selective. This also means that many genuinely attractive men's profiles might get buried in heaps of messages in the women's inboxes, and never get seen

- I don't have to be a software engineer to know that a TON of profiles out there are fake and probably created programmatically (bots/robots). The longer a site has been in service, the more time spammers/sadists have had to create their fake profiles. There are many men out there pretending to be hot women. I mean what does it take to download some random girl's pic from the web and upload it and pawn it off as your own ?

- Then, factor in ... out of 100 profiles you see, how many are actually active when you see them ? What if they already found someone and just left their profile up there ? Think about how many inactive profiles there are !

You see ? There are numerous variables and factors at play in the online dating game ... most far beyond your control.

I will admit, I have also seen many white women on such sites who prefer only white/black men, but I have also seen many that are open to all races. It seems like a cruel discriminatory game, and you have to do whatever you can (short of lying, hopefully) to increase your odds.

And, BTW, my success rate was far worse than yours, on the dating sites ... for about 500 messages I sent, I got about 5 back.
 
I reply to everyone who isn't telling me how bored they are, or asking for a good time. Yeah, I don't reply to many.
 
TheRealCallie said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
blackdot said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
There is blatant racism and discrimination in online dating here in the US! If I was a white male or a black male, I would definitely be getting more messages and response from women! Life is so unfair!

As a white male who gets no messages or responses, does that mean you get less than 0 responses? That's extremely strange.

Are you sure that you got zero / nada responses from any women in online dating websites??? 
From what I hear, white/Caucasian males have better chances of hooking up online dating.

Maybe someone THOUGHT about sending him a message.  Does that count as 1/2?

Absolutely!!!
 
To the OP:
I'm curious. When you sent out the 60 or 70 messages, did you send them to women of different ethnicities? Or do you have a preference? Just curious...
 
GrayAndLonesome said:
Paraiyar said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
There is blatant racism and discrimination in online dating here in the US! If I was a white male or a black male, I would definitely be getting more messages and response from women! Life is so unfair!

Sorry but I don't agree that having an ethnic preference when it comes to dating constitutes racism...

Bro, having a racial preference for a guy due to his race IS racism. Sheesh.

Ethnic preference is due to brainwashing from the mainstream media, commercials, etc.....that brainwash girls into thinking that certain guys of a certain racee is cool, while another male from another racial background are geeks, etc.
If that's the case then I should be really attracted to Asian girls because of all the stereotypes of white men liking them but in actual fact I'm really only interested in my own race. And no, it isn't racist not to be physically attracted to the characteristics of a certain group. No one owes you physical attraction.
 
Paraiyar said:
No one owes you physical attraction.

Amen ! No one owes you ******, I might add.

GrayAndLonesome - I don't understand your objective here. Why is the definition of racism important here ? What are you to gain from establishing that definition ? You can't force someone to agree with you, in just the same way that you can't force someone to find you physically attractive, pal. It just doesn't work like that.

I'm sure there are women out there who DO find you attractive ... you just haven't found them yet. Forget the women that don't ... they're a waste of your time and energy. Move on to women who haven't had a chance to see you yet.

Instead of trying to convince others here that you are being subjected to racism (a futile and unnecessary battle, apparently ... not that it matters which side is "right"), why don't you expend that same energy into taking steps to increase your odds of finding someone. Whatever you're currently trying is not bringing about the desired results, so try something new.
 
Somnambulist said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
blackdot said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
There is blatant racism and discrimination in online dating here in the US! If I was a white male or a black male, I would definitely be getting more messages and response from women! Life is so unfair!

As a white male who gets no messages or responses, does that mean you get less than 0 responses? That's extremely strange.

Are you sure that you got zero / nada responses from any women in online dating websites??? 
From what I hear, white/Caucasian males have better chances of hooking up online dating.

Dating websites, at least for men, are hit or miss. Here are some stats I've heard about, and they seem to ring true to me.

- Men FAR outnumber women, probably 10-1 or even 25-1. As a result, women have to be extremely selective. This also means that many genuinely attractive men's profiles might get buried in heaps of messages in the women's inboxes, and never get seen

- I don't have to be a software engineer to know that a TON of profiles out there are fake and probably created programmatically (bots/robots). The longer a site has been in service, the more time spammers/sadists have had to create their fake profiles. There are many men out there pretending to be hot women. I mean what does it take to download some random girl's pic from the web and upload it and pawn it off as your own ?

- Then, factor in ... out of 100 profiles you see, how many are actually active when you see them ? What if they already found someone and just left their profile up there ? Think about how many inactive profiles there are !

You see ? There are numerous variables and factors at play in the online dating game ... most far beyond your control.

I will admit, I have also seen many white women on such sites who prefer only white/black men, but I have also seen many that are open to all races. It seems like a cruel discriminatory game, and you have to do whatever you can (short of lying, hopefully) to increase your odds.

And, BTW, my success rate was far worse than yours, on the dating sites ... for about 500 messages I sent, I got about 5 back.

The men to women ratio on dating website is that high? 25 men to one woman? Hmmm.....that's kind of a high number....but okay.

My overall point is, dating websites probably won't ever work for me, due to rampant discriminatory practices when it comes to selecting a male.

No, i"m not a computer nerd, I work out at the fitness center on my day offs. I'm not a fat slob, but I'm not a ripped 6-pack ab person either. My profile on my dating account is decent, where it states my hobbies, my future goals, and I'm not even being too picky with the kind of woman I want. Well, except smokers, women with kids / divorced, I quickly ex-out from my list.
 
Paraiyar said:
If that's the case then I should be really attracted to Asian girls because of all the stereotypes of white men liking them but in actual fact I'm really only interested in my own race. And no, it isn't racist not to be physically attracted to the characteristics of a certain group. No one owes you physical attraction.

Well good for you, Paraiya.

I still disagree with you. Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

You can have women who states that she has no preference on her profile, because she either doesn't want to look bigoted, or thinking of non-white predominant racial groups in the US (i.e. black/afr-amer men).
 
GrayAndLonesome said:
Paraiyar said:
If that's the case then I should be really attracted to Asian girls because of all the stereotypes of white men liking them but in actual fact I'm really only interested in my own race. And no, it isn't racist not to be physically attracted to the characteristics of a certain group. No one owes you physical attraction.

Well good for you, Paraiya.

I still disagree with you. Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

You can have women who states that she has no preference on her profile, because she either doesn't want to look bigoted, or thinking of non-white predominant racial groups in the US (i.e. black/afr-amer men).
When you've messaged ladies in the past, whay ethnicities do you prefer?
 
GrayAndLonesome said:
Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

But you have not even demonstrated that the attraction or your personal rejection is solely based on race/ethnic background, so your racism claim remains baseless either way. I doubt you had multiple people telling that your race is inferior which would be actual racism (which you don't get to redefine) and I doubt your claim that race is the biggest factor across the board even more.
 
GrayAndLonesome said:
I still disagree with you. Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

Having a prefference or a "type" is not racism, even if that preffrence/type excludes others based on their ethnicity, by your standard me as a heterosexual male excluding males would be racism too, becuse i'm excluding them based on their *** and not personalities...

Also when someone is solely attracted to a specific race/ethicity thats actually a fetish and is completely normal, different people like different things.
 
MisterLonely said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
I still disagree with you. Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

Having a prefference or a "type" is not racism, even if that preffrence/type excludes others based on their ethnicity, by your standard me as a heterosexual male excluding males would be racism too, becuse i'm excluding them based on their *** and not personalities...

Also when someone is solely attracted to a specific race/ethicity thats actually a fetish and is completely normal, different people like different 
Word fetish has a negative connotation to me. When used to describe a predilection to a specific race or ethnicity.  That is just my opinion speaking from experience
 
Restless soul said:
MisterLonely said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
I still disagree with you. Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

Having a prefference or a "type" is not racism, even if that preffrence/type excludes others based on their ethnicity, by your standard me as a heterosexual male excluding males would be racism too, becuse i'm excluding them based on their *** and not personalities...

Also when someone is solely attracted to a specific race/ethicity thats actually a fetish and is completely normal, different people like different 
Word fetish has a negative connotation to me. When used to describe a predilection to a specific race or ethnicity.  That is just my opinion speaking from experience

I can understand that, the word fetish however is never negative, and it sometimes suprises me that such a beautifull word is treated with such ignorance and disrespect of it's actuall meaning (not saying you do this btw).

A fetish is a love, adoration or even fixation on something not usually associated with having such qualities, so in other words when you have a fetish for something, you see beauty where (most) others see the opposite or nothing at all, I find this a very beautifull thing :)
 
MisterLonely said:
Restless soul said:
MisterLonely said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
I still disagree with you. Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

Having a prefference or a "type" is not racism, even if that preffrence/type excludes others based on their ethnicity, by your standard me as a heterosexual male excluding males would be racism too, becuse i'm excluding them based on their *** and not personalities...

Also when someone is solely attracted to a specific race/ethicity thats actually a fetish and is completely normal, different people like different 
Word fetish has a negative connotation to me. When used to describe a predilection to a specific race or ethnicity.  That is just my opinion speaking from experience

I can understand that, the word fetish however is never negative, and it sometimes suprises me that such a beautifull word is treated with such ignorance and disrespect of it's actuall meaning (not saying you do this btw).

A fetish is a love, adoration or even fixation on something not usually associated with having such qualities, so in other words when you have a fetish for something, you see beauty where (most) others see the opposite or nothing at all, I find this a very beautifull thing :)

A word of beauty or not. It's used in the negative when it comes to dating and it's been marred as a "beautiful" word thanks to ****..
 
Restless soul said:
MisterLonely said:
Restless soul said:
MisterLonely said:
GrayAndLonesome said:
I still disagree with you. Yes it is racist to be solely attracted to a person because of his or her race or ethnic background. That's the biggest factor, and I kid you not, when it comes to online dating and selection of a potential significant other.

Having a prefference or a "type" is not racism, even if that preffrence/type excludes others based on their ethnicity, by your standard me as a heterosexual male excluding males would be racism too, becuse i'm excluding them based on their *** and not personalities...

Also when someone is solely attracted to a specific race/ethicity thats actually a fetish and is completely normal, different people like different 
Word fetish has a negative connotation to me. When used to describe a predilection to a specific race or ethnicity.  That is just my opinion speaking from experience

I can understand that, the word fetish however is never negative, and it sometimes suprises me that such a beautifull word is treated with such ignorance and disrespect of it's actuall meaning (not saying you do this btw).

A fetish is a love, adoration or even fixation on something not usually associated with having such qualities, so in other words when you have a fetish for something, you see beauty where (most) others see the opposite or nothing at all, I find this a very beautifull thing :)

A word of beauty or not. It's used in the negative when it comes to dating and it's been marred as a "beautiful" word thanks to ****..

Not to all my friend :), join me in the rebellion :p
 
MisterLonely said:
Restless soul said:
MisterLonely said:
Restless soul said:
MisterLonely said:
Having a prefference or a "type" is not racism, even if that preffrence/type excludes others based on their ethnicity, by your standard me as a heterosexual male excluding males would be racism too, becuse i'm excluding them based on their *** and not personalities...

Also when someone is solely attracted to a specific race/ethicity thats actually a fetish and is completely normal, different people like different 
Word fetish has a negative connotation to me. When used to describe a predilection to a specific race or ethnicity.  That is just my opinion speaking from experience

I can understand that, the word fetish however is never negative, and it sometimes suprises me that such a beautifull word is treated with such ignorance and disrespect of it's actuall meaning (not saying you do this btw).

A fetish is a love, adoration or even fixation on something not usually associated with having such qualities, so in other words when you have a fetish for something, you see beauty where (most) others see the opposite or nothing at all, I find this a very beautifull thing :)

A word of beauty or not. It's used in the negative when it comes to dating and it's been marred as a "beautiful" word thanks to ****..

Not to all my friend :), join me in the rebellion :p

Drop it already!
 
Being attracted to the physical characteristics associated with a race isn't racism, it's a preference. Interest based on stereotypes is obviously racist, but that is a separate thought process. Nobody criticizes minorities for wanting to date within their own cultures (or having any other preferences for that matter). Accusations of fetishization (of Asian women), or racism for wanting children that look like you seem to be thrown exclusively at white males. I NEVER hear East Asian, Polynesian, Indian or Arab people accused of this.
 

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