Do You Have Disdain For Addicts?

[LoneKiller]

Looks like I wasn't around for this one when it started. Lots of well thought out responses.

Luckily I was able to avoid the hold of any major addiction (except for "adrenalin junkie" from time to time). It's difficult to respond to this question in a truly altruistic way. I've known some addicts that I really don't think much of, I've known some that I've had respect for- kind of like the people in day to day life who don't have addiction issues.

There is one type of person that I do despise (in regards to addictions) that I didn't see mentioned. That person is the low life s.o.b. who capitalizes on addictions, the one who is always willing to supply whatever is needed to keep the person hooked to their addiction for profit. I'm not just talking about the dealer on the corner, how about the local pub owner who keeps pushing "another round" on the town drunk or the "well intentioned" friend who always seems to have a stash of prescription meds to "help" a needy person out. Those are the ones I despise.

I concur.

 

[Arsenic Queen]

What so many misunderstand, is that nobody wakes up one morning and decides they're going to take up drug and alcohol abuse as a lifestyle.
It's hard to have sympathy for an addict when you have never experienced it personally. Nobody likes being an addict, but it just consumes you and you can't beat on your own. That's the whole essence of being an addict. If they could help themselves, they wouldn't be one.

I guess what I'm trying to get across to everyone is to please try and have more compassion for these truly ill people. You are not dealing with a bad person, you are dealing with a chemical.

Could say the same about any addiction or "stuck" problem actually, emotional dependance, depression, overeating, etc. People who never had a depression or a problem with food all think it should be so simple.

Yes, overeating is similar to being addicted to drugs because in your body your own natural chemicals ARE ****** up from the wrong things to eat or from the wrong quantities and proportions.

Plus hunger is the FIRST human motive. Your body will have all kinds of ways to remind this to you if you try to fight it! When your body is used to overeat, have over quantities of sugar in your blood, over of this, over of that, at some point your body mistakes this for its normal condition. And will fight you if you try to alter it!

It will send you on depression, attack you with huge, unbearable cravings, make you feel in lack if you cut on the quantities or type of things it's used to process. It's no accident if people have a hard time losing weight or dieting: your body sends its whole army of the most aggressive reactions against what you're trying to do!

There is one type of person that I do despise (in regards to addictions) that I didn't see mentioned. That person is the low life s.o.b. who capitalizes on addictions, the one who is always willing to supply whatever is needed to keep the person hooked to their addiction for profit. I'm not just talking about the dealer on the corner, how about the local pub owner who keeps pushing "another round" on the town drunk or the "well intentioned" friend who always seems to have a stash of prescription meds to "help" a needy person out. Those are the ones I despise.

I agree with that. Same goes for the whole capitalism around junk food AND dieting. I don't currently have that problem but I did at some point. And I know many friends who do.

 

[LoneKiller]

What so many misunderstand, is that nobody wakes up one morning and decides they're going to take up drug and alcohol abuse as a lifestyle.
It's hard to have sympathy for an addict when you have never experienced it personally. Nobody likes being an addict, but it just consumes you and you can't beat on your own. That's the whole essence of being an addict. If they could help themselves, they wouldn't be one.

I guess what I'm trying to get across to everyone is to please try and have more compassion for these truly ill people. You are not dealing with a bad person, you are dealing with a chemical.

Could say the same about any addiction or "stuck" problem actually, emotional dependance, depression, overeating, etc. People who never had a depression or a problem with food all think it should be so simple.

Yes, overeating is similar to being addicted to drugs because in your body your own natural chemicals ARE ****** up from the wrong things to eat or from the wrong quantities and proportions.

Plus hunger is the FIRST human motive. Your body will have all kinds of ways to remind this to you if you try to fight it! When your body is used to overeat, have over quantities of sugar in your blood, over of this, over of that, at some point your body mistakes this for its normal condition. And will fight you if you try to alter it!

It will send you on depression, attack you with huge, unbearable cravings, make you feel in lack if you cut on the quantities or type of things it's used to process. It's no accident if people have a hard time losing weight or dieting: your body sends its whole army of the most aggressive reactions against what you're trying to do!

There is one type of person that I do despise (in regards to addictions) that I didn't see mentioned. That person is the low life s.o.b. who capitalizes on addictions, the one who is always willing to supply whatever is needed to keep the person hooked to their addiction for profit. I'm not just talking about the dealer on the corner, how about the local pub owner who keeps pushing "another round" on the town drunk or the "well intentioned" friend who always seems to have a stash of prescription meds to "help" a needy person out. Those are the ones I despise.

I agree with that. Same goes for the whole capitalism around junk food AND dieting. I don't currently have that problem but I did at some point. And I know many friends who do.

Yeah, I'm with ya on the food thing. Would internet addiction fall into this category as well? The reason I ask is because some don't believe that the internet is addictive.

 

[Mouse]

I've nothing against drug addicts except the needles and paraphernalia they leave around parks.

 

[SophiaGrace]

Internet addiction is an addiction. Yus. Because you get little rewards. For you lonekiller isn't it rewarding to get responses on threads or a private message notification? The reward center in your brain surely gets activated by this.

I had to explain this theory of mine to a psychologist and she thought (or at least said) it was interesting.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

I stop drinking and getting high when i was a kid. Addiction and alcoholism
Effects my life and continue to effect
my life, Even when i don't drink or use.
My father is an alcoholic.

Its has always been a ballte for me.
My fiancee is an alki/ addict.
She goy arrested tonight for being
Too intoxicated. She wasnt doing
Any wrong..today..other than just
Falling down. The cops didnt have
To take her..but they did
She was screaming for me the entire
time. She fell down because she went
looking for me.

---

Anyway,...im awear of the many consqurnces of alcoholism.

My fiancee can be very nice
But she can turn on a dime
Becuase shes **** up all the time.
She's addicted to prescription meds.
When mixed with alcohol its not go.

Shes manic deprrssive, suicidal.
She's also slasher. She cuts herself bad.
She was release from a mental ward
And ER not too long ago.
Its went bad to worst..she went on
A binge.

---

But i love very very much.
Its not always black and white.
She was also my high school sweetheart.
Shes also the mother of my duaghter.
Shes also the love of my life..

For one year to this day it has been
A battle of saving her life.
I CANT MAKE HER STOP.
I only wish for hrr to get well.
But our lives is a fucken mess...
I dont judge her her. I dont hate her.
But there's a lot of ****** up ****.
It test my patients, my tolerents
It test my love for her.

---

Sometimes i cant even bare it.
Ive gone to the ER 5 or 6 times
Since this year. The cops ran my
Name through the system like a broken
revord because im with her.
All the dramma and truamma.

---

You dont know whsts its like
To fine someone you love
In a pool of bloode after cutting herself.

---

Its not that she dosnt love me.
Shes not well..
I struggle...becuase i love very much.
Everything wears on me.
Livjng with her can be a total nightnair.
I PROMISE I WILL NEVER LEAVE HER
AGAIN. I left her 22 yrs ago while
She was pregnant with Kimi.
Shes forgiven me for hurting her.
I need to set things right for her
And Kimi.

---

Im fighting a loosing battle.
Renae knows i love her.
Kimi knows i love her...
But my heart breaks just the same.
Im powerless over alcoholism.
I love Renae and Kimi very much.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

I cherrish all the good times and moment i have with Renae.

When i hold her in bed, i hold her
Tight because I cherish the love we have. I make love to her with all
My love for her. I watch the sunraise
With her and thank for givinh us
the moment of love and peace...
Its not because its a romance kind of
Thing.

---

I hope and pray god watches
Over us and love us all through all of this.
I love Renae very much.
Im s stronge man. But i need gods love,
Strengths and grace to carry me
Thought sll of this.more than i ever needed.
All of this is also about me getting closer
To god.

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Ive crird more tears for Renae than for
Anyone and anything.
Tears of love...

I dont know whats going to happen tomorrow.
Hopefully shell be released from jail.

Will this be her bottom?
Will this help her make better chioces?
Will this get her to stop drinking and using?
Will this help her to seek treatment and
work through the many issues she has.
IDK....ITS UP TO HER.

 

[Felix]

No nothing against them, I don't really know any addicts tough, in real life.

 

[Arsenic Queen]

Internet addiction is an addiction. Yus. Because you get little rewards. For you lonekiller isn't it rewarding to get responses on threads or a private message notification? The reward center in your brain surely gets activated by this.

I had to explain this theory of mine to a psychologist and she thought (or at least said) it was interesting.

I tend to agree and disagree with this. It's very possible to be addicted to the internet, and this rewards system you're mentioning is a very interesting theory. To me this sounds more like a conditioning than an addiction though.

I consider something "not an addiction" as long as it's something you can leave easily and to which you go to because it brings you pleasure. In my book it reaches the "addiction" level when it becomes near impossible to focus on something else, and when the pain (or boredom, or whatever unpleasing experience) you get from it is more important than the pleasure - and you still keep going.

Sometimes though, whatever thing we "overdo", can be a very healthy passion/hobby until people start judging you as "addicted to it" in a negative way. It's so difficult to find something you have genuine fun with, and when it finally happens, there's always an idiot to see something wrong in it. These kinds of stupid quick judgements can make things sooo complicated. Between you and your fun item, as well as between you and the person who emits these kinds of judgements.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

LoL...LOVE is like an addiction to me.
I get rewards up the galor with Renae.
The side effects are just as insane.
Some term it CO dependency.

Im totally emotionally Enmeshed with her. The romantic people term it as
Heavy duty emotional bonding.
We a very passionate couple..
Very much in love and love each other
Very much. If we go see a marriage
counselor...they probably lable us
As sex addicts too.

 

[blackdot]

I am personally not addicted to anything but I don't have anything against addicts as long as their addiction doesn't affect me.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

I think about her all the time.
Shes always on my mind.
I have stuff shes given me.
I have thousands of pictures
Of her. Plenty of vedios.
Some might say Im Obsessed with her.
Other say I totally love her and in love with her.
Im not possesive of her. Evidently
I cant stop her from using.
She comes and gose as she pleases.

---

Ive gone more than beyond
Myself to be with her.
Put myself in positions not
To the best of my well being.
This is call...COMPULSIVE.
Im way into actions.

OCD or OCPD

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Renae is not the first alcoholic addict
Ive lived with. My ExGf was a recovering
Alcoholic. We had a great healthy relationship until she relasped 7
Years into the relationship.
The death of our twins triggered
her relasped. I dont know how
much pains, grieving she carries.
But the last 5 yrs of that relationship
Was like a living hell...
Yet the chaos, dramma and truamma
With Renae is ten fold compare
To my exgf...

Renae and I have a daughter together.
Kimi is my baby duaghter. She's
To only child i have a relationship,
Connection with. Theres a lot of
Factors of way i stay with Renae
Inspite of chaos...
Im not so sure, i ve grieved for
The lost of my children.
When Kimi came back into my k
life. She gave me hope..

These are some of the issues I need
To work through...
Abstance is not enough.
First things fitst.

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The morals the values.
The judgements.....
Its in conflicts within me.

Ive lived my life without Renae.
Ive always felt something was missing
Without her no matter how good it was.

Yet, i feel complete when i am with her,
Inspite of how messy our lives is at the moment...
The wreackage of her disease wears on me. A part of me is fully awear this
wreackage will destroy me...
I need to run( my self presevations kicks
In)..
I feel more guilt rhan ever if i don't
See this through.
Conflicts....

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Shes home. Shes bruised and scrap bad from taking a nasty
Fall. Shes in pain. No drinking today. Just sleeping.
If she drues oht for a couple nore days, sHell be out
Of physical withdraws.
She told me she was sorry.
I didn't say much or judge her. It would onky make her feel
Worst.
Shes melow when shes sober.
I know she has depression.
Just trying to be mellow and
Positve.

 

[Arsenic Queen]

love can indeed be a freaking serious addiction, and when you smack out of it, you wonder what the heck all that mind-mud was about.

addictions are alot about lying to self. the more you doubt something will last, the more you know it's bad for you, the more addicted to it you'll be - as long as there's some kind of something keeping you attracted - their looks, their manners, SOMETHING has to be more attractive than whatever toxicness or downsides they have. as when the charm gets broken, it can often be some serious wake-up. love is overrated.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Its been a journey that made a complete circle.
Wben Renae and I broke up last summer, I
met someone the was prettier than Renae.
Nicer than her. She could had been the perfect
Wife. I could had easily build another life with
Her..but i was still lots of baggage from Renae.
I also felt Jenn needed to loved with all the love
And devotion. I couldn't give that to Jenn...
People thought j was crazy and stupid for
Leaving Jenn...but I ran from woman that
Loves me before. Lori took me home and
Did exactly the samething for me 21 yrs ago after i tried to kill myself. She loved me, became my best friend or the perfect wife.