Rodent said:The issue is that I believe that OP was just making a fun thread. But she was inspired by someone else to do so. Their motivation was also "fun" but more in "pour some gasoline on this dumpster fire" kinda fun. They knew the consequences because they knew the **** that was talked about the forum lately and wanted to push buttons. OP didn't know.
PS: I'd really like it if the people that were intended to be baited to respond here would be clever enough to let it go now because I think they can be better than that. And I'd also like the people that are running interference for the obvious bait to stop doing that. Don't push someone's buttons (while knowing exactly which ones they have) and then act surprised when they start pushing back.
TheSkaFish said:"Interesting enough" is the hard part, because that takes conscious thought if you don't just so happen to be the right kind of person who arrived at the right worldview/life philosophy/thinking style, who responds to things in the right way, and that's a whole other can of worms outside the scope of this thread. That's what I'm struggling with.
TheSkaFish said:One major issue I have with this forum, and why I almost said "that's it, **** this ****, I'm done" once and for all, is the blatantly obvious button-pushing that, like I said, has been going on sporadically since before I even got here 7 years ago now as of this post.
One person will know what another person's buttons are - often their actual struggles and insecurities, or just things they'd find highly offensive - then push those buttons. Then this other person, who was probably in a low place to begin with, reacts, as anyone would to being picked on, only to be treated like they are the bad guy, they're the problem person - while the button-pusher gets away with it, shamelessly and out in the open, even though it's obvious to anyone who wasn't born yesterday that they're the one who instigated the issue, and there would have been no issue if they hadn't. No one is naive enough not to see this. I've seen this play out multiple times, with myself and others. This is supposed to be a support space, where you can talk about things that maybe you couldn't on Facebook or in real life, but intentionally riling others up is anything but creating a supportive environment. In fact in can make a person feel worse than if they didn't come here to begin with. And if that's the case, then what is this place? And why even come here at all?
For what it's worth I don't even think this thread is that extreme of an example, it's on the tamer side as these things go, and I'm not calling out any one specific person - certainly no one that's been active lately. But it seemed relevant and I'm just saying how I feel.
TheRealCallie said:Yeah, see, there's the issue. I don't think it's that you aren't interesting enough. Nerds get dates all the time, it's more a matter of knowing how to talk to people and realizing that women are no different than anyone else. We all just wanted to be treated well and listened to and have someone who isn't negative all the time or send out that vibe. Just talk to people, be comfortable in the social setting and be comfortable with YOURSELF.
TheRealCallie said:You have that anywhere, whether it's online or real life. It's entirely about how you respond to it. A negative person is going to make it all about them. People bait me here all the time, yet no one seems to give a **** about that. It's all about the men who whine about the same things over and over again. It is what it is. Learn to deal with it, ignore or become an Amish hermit so you don't have to.
TheSkaFish said:I think I see what you are trying to say. And I kindasorta think there is some overlap between what you are saying and what I said. But I didn't want to make it about me. I just added my thoughts on that to the thread to help the guys who were worried about their height, to not worry as much.
TheSkaFish said:Simple example:
Say I walk down the street and flip a complete stranger the finger - someone I have no past history with, no context, nothing. I did it just to antagonize them, because that's what I think is cool, that's the kind of person I've decided to be. And, having just been flipped off, they run up to me and punch me in the face.
I'd say that they aren't the bad guy for punching me. I'm the bad guy for flipping them off. That's what created the situation where there wasn't one, and wasn't going to be one if I hadn't antagonized them for my own amusement or feelings of superiority to the other person. Therefore, I can't cry foul for getting punched.
It's like back in school where one person bullies another, then the victim retaliates, but the bully pivots and acts like they're the real victim. It never made any sense then, and it doesn't today. You can ignore someone trying to screw with you, but that can make you seem weak in the eyes of the person doing it, and invite more antagonism from them and even from others cause people think you're not going to do anything about it. And you could also internalize this image of you as weak, a loser, etc. also.
In my life experience, "ignore it and it will go away", "turn the other cheek", etc. has never worked. It just makes you seem like a soft target. And it makes the person being picked on just bottle up their anger to take it out on someone else later.
TheSkaFish said:On another note I guess it never occurred to me that you do get baited as well. Maybe I figured that it doesn't bother you as much because it doesn't seem like it but it very well could. I guess I never stopped to consider it, that's my fault there.
TheRealCallie said:I think most people in that situation would blame the other guy because you didn't physically harm him like he did you.
TheRealCallie said:TheSkaFish said:On another note I guess it never occurred to me that you do get baited as well. Maybe I figured that it doesn't bother you as much because it doesn't seem like it but it very well could. I guess I never stopped to consider it, that's my fault there.
Does it really matter if it bothers me? Does it make it okay if it doesn't?
If I'd started a post saying I like big breasted women, I'd probably have been ripped to shreds. Double standards again.
You could look in the Netherlands (world's tallest people) although statistically they wash their hands the least of all Europeans (only 50% of the time after bathroom trips) so that's a pest.I saw a statistic that finding a tall man is like finding a unicorn
You could look in the Netherlands (world's tallest people) although statistically they wash their hands the least of all Europeans (only 50% of the time after bathroom trips) so that's a pest.
That's a right pest but oddly.. sounds about right.You could look in the Netherlands (world's tallest people) although statistically they wash their hands the least of all Europeans (only 50% of the time after bathroom trips) so that's a pest.
Tall. Get zero compliments or attention. Height means absolutely nothing.
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