Its gone too far Robin

[Hijacc]

Seriously we want the site back the way it was this site is supposed to be about freedom and the ability to express ourselves.

First: I was demoted which was total ******** Ive have done nothing but good for this site and every knows it people like me as mod and it was wrong. I WAS DONE WRONG!


Second: you split up the chat rooms Which was pointless.

Third:Its feel like noone can speak their mind anymore this site is so freaking strict its not even funny what the hell I shouldn't have to give you my full name to log into the chat room.

Fourth:You let these people rule you to much some people need to just learn to go about their way and ignore things these aren't kids they are adults and this is getting to be sad people are complaining this is getting out of hand and a warning level? WHAT THE HELL!.

Ever since that thing that happened you've been pissey and quick to punish
and your letting your emotions get in the way and all these new rules .


And if you lock this Im getting a hold of Bjarne because this is getting to be ********

 

[Porman]

I support ya hijacc all the way.

 

[ClosetGeek]

I sometimes come to chat. But there are people here who need to chat and interact. They want to discuss their problems and issues. Totally eliminating chat and putting on such demands,
is like hurting those who are in need of interaction. I feel like people's loneliness is being used as a weapon against them.
It's not happening.

 

[Irishdoll]

I understand you want to protect people. I don't know what happened in the chat room. I do know that by the time you get done looking at my record, I won't be able to chat, since my laptop will be gone. How will this affect people like me.? I mean, homeless. People who can't always get to a computer or who have to find ways to get to one. Especially with the month thing. I may be out for a month . It's not going to be a pleasant experience. Not to mention, as much as I like to trust in my head, giving you my full name really isn't my idea of a good time. I don't care who is moderating, watching, doing good deeds, it just feels like an invasion of my privacy. Thank you.

 

[Robin]

Seriously we want the site back the way it was this site is supposed to be about freedom and the ability to express ourselves.

First of all, who are "we" ?

You're completely free to express Yourself. Tell me one thing that You aren't allowed to do on this website which wouldn't be vulgar or disrespective to other people. You're just being silly Hijacc.

First: I was demoted which was total ******** Ive have done nothing but good for this site and every knows it people like me as mod and it was wrong. I WAS DONE WRONG!

We've already been through why You were demoted Hijacc and the fact that You can't even see why it was the best thing makes You even less fit for moderator work.

Second: you split up the chat rooms Which was pointless.

Are You just being emo right now or are You seriously that senseless? If You don't even understand why the chat-room was split i doubt You to even be a mentally well human being. Either You don't care about other people, probably because Your own life haven't been what You've wanted it to be lately, or You're very stupid. I think it's the first one.

Third:Its feel like noone can speak their mind anymore this site is so freaking strict its not even funny what the hell I shouldn't have to give you my full name to log into the chat room.

You can start a thread and post all You want, about any subject. You're so snowed in that You generalise the entire community simply for what has happened to the chat-room.

Dear lord.. i feel sorry for even replying to this post Hijacc. Either You're paranoid that i'll do something with Your name, or You're immature, and i think it's the second. Perhaps not less mature than others of Your age, but surely not more mature either, and that's the problem here. You're not mean or stupid. You're just not grown up enough yet Hijacc. You'll be one day though.

Fourth:You let these people rule you to much some people need to just learn to go about their way and ignore things these aren't kids they are adults and this is getting to be sad people are complaining this is getting out of hand and a warning level? WHAT THE HELL!.

Sigh... is that what it has seemed like? Nothing but order and peace rules me Hijacc. I wouldn't even let Cleo do something which contradicts to peace and order.

Let's get this straight:

There are, has always been, and always will be about as many minors and sensitive people as senseless freaks in this community. Loneliness and depression does that to people, it's that big of a problem. It's not always their fault that people are where they are, but just because their lives sucks it doesn't make it allright for them to bring down others simply to feel slightly better themselves. If this would have the "Nice People Community", there would probably only have to be someone to keep spammers out once in a while. But that's far from the case. Without proper staff members who care about peace and order, and who dare to dig in when it's needed, this community would have been one of the worst places on the entire internet.

The fact that You don't even find the idea of warning people who are directly evil towards others makes me just sick. When was the last time You saw the sun Hijacc? Did You eat enough today? Seriously, i'm worried about You.

Ever since that thing that happened you've been pissey and quick to punish
and your letting your emotions get in the way and all these new rules Sad.

What i've felt alot of lately is disappointment, not anger. Some days i've even been in shock because i've never seen worse behaviour in my life, and especially not directed at a person who cares so much about others. Completely stuns me how many sociopaths that walk among us.

And if you lock this Im getting a hold of Bjarne because this is getting to be ********
If you support me I will add you to the list (even if youve told me in chat)

What can i say more than what i already have? I blame Your age and mood for Your feelings and current use of braincells, but what it is exactly that makes You think that You have all the answers and know me like the inside of Your pocket leaves me puzzled. Are You being manipulated to write this? I've met some great manipulators here lately so that wouldn't surprise me.

Do You even trust Yourself in what You're saying here or are Your feelings making You extra brave? Since i've lately noticed how very little experience You actually have in how to run a community for the lonely and depressed i just can't put my finger on what on earth is going on with You right now.

The chat-room has been a great example of what this forum would turn into if there would be nobody around to keep the order in check. A disaster zone where everyone can do exactly whatever they feel like, live, towards other people. And what have i just told You about feelings? They can make people do quite messy things sometimes, don't You agree?

This website isn't mine, but those chat-rooms were. You're all free to create Your own chat-rooms and link to them here, but they won't be an official part of this community, ever.

Besides, to be honest, Bjarne might be a more successful and experienced webmaster than me in general, being nine years older than me, but i highly doubt that is more experienced than me in how to run a community just like this one. He started it, but he apparently didn't feel like he could run it for long since he haven't been here for almost a year now, which is why he hired me to do so.

Be happy with what You got instead. I'm trying my best to give You everything that this bulletin-board software allows, and You've got alot more than Bjarne ever would have time to give You.

The chat-room will from now on only be a privilege for the members who can behave in a life environment. If You don't like it, start Your own chat-room, or community for that matter, because this one isn't going to change as long as i'm here. I'm a man of democracy, so i'll do whatever the majority tells me to, as long as it doesn't go against peace and order.

 

[Kylie]

Please note I made this post, before I seen Robins

I completely agree, the changes that have been made, are strict, but on the other hand, some, (not all mind you) are necessary, for a welcoming community, But I think that there would be a couple better ways to resolve the situations....

For instance, since the chat room was divided into three there have been numerous problems, I say why not put all the rooms back into one, and then leave it open to A Lonely Life members?

Then people that need mediate help wont have to wait, hours or days, to talk with some one, if they are already lonely, and then we make them wait and wait, and wait, it will not be helping them, and then once they do get approved they better hope there name is available, or they will have to wait some more, while they come up with a new name, and send it to Robin....

In some ways I am annoyed about the new changes, but on the same hand, we are lucky to have a chat at all, had it not been for Robin, we would not have a chat and this would be just another boring forum.

 

[Incognita]

people, you are all adults. You start **** in those chatrooms then go around blaming every body else including Robin.

You wont see this kind of **** on other forums cause they will shut u up quickly or ban u.
Robin is doing the best he can trying to please everybody.




Some want complete freedom others complain about everything.
you use ur freedom to insult others.

Im getting a hold of Bjarne? And what?



Did anyone ever say thank you for frredom of expression here?

stop acting like idiots and everything will be fine.

 

[Chris 2]

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[Incognita]

OMG, I can't believe this.

Chris, don't do this . Do you have any idea what its like to try to keep this all mess together? U obviously have no clue.

If you don't change your way Robin, I do think you need to be demoted.

lol. Tell me please who would fill HIS position?


I'm sure even if he left you would be complaining about that too.


And for talking like this to an administrator on other forums where I hang out sometimes you would be banned for ever.

 

[Robin]

Then people that need mediate help wont have to wait, hours or days, to talk with some one, if they are already lonely, and then we make them wait and wait, and wait, it will not be helping them, and then once they do get approved they better hope there name is available, or they will have to wait some more, while they come up with a new name, and send it to Robin....

This is another problem that i haven't had time to get to yet. I also find immediate, live help important, but i don't think an open chat-room is the answer to the problem because depending on the people who are in the chat-room when a person in need enters, they might not get much good help at all since some members simply don't know how to help. And wouldn't that be even worse? I mean, if someone suicidal came here, to a community dedicated to lonely and depressed people, logged in to an open chat-room which they didn't even have to register for to enter, in a hope to get some much-needed help, and then didn't, it could make them feel even worse!

The optimal solution as i see it, when it comes to the visitors in need, is for there to always be someone truly experienced in the subject to be present, and only experienced people. To do what You're suggesting Kylie would perhaps be more fun since more people would be in the same place, but we can't let fun go before everything else, can we?

This community isn't even supposed to be fun! Before someone else came here and took care of things after Bjarne disappeared on You this place was indeed one extreme example of boredom.

Why are so many of You expecting the staff members of this community to spend so much time on making it a more fun place to stay anyway, rather than helping people? Personally i reply to dozens of PMs every day, sent from people who need someone experienced to talk to and that takes up most of my time here. We're not slot machines that You just pull a lever on and out falls the fun, You know!

It's supposed to be helpful, and that's actually it. This isn't a place where You're supposed to log in and have a good time at every single day. It's designed for people in need, and not in fun, but in will to live on to find happiness some time. Lately there have been alot of unnecessary features added simply for the reason to make things more fun, but what most people seem to keep forgetting is that this website never has nor never will be a community where You're supposed to get Your daily doze of fun at. There are countless of other alternatives, both on and off the internet.

This is a forum for lonely people primarily, not a chat-room for fun times.

 

[Chris 2]

OMG, I can't believe this.

Chris, don't do this . Do you have idea whats it like to try to keep this all together?

If you don't change your way Robin, I do think you need to be demoted.

lol. Tell me please who would fill HIS position?

Yes and that is why I take that back. I use up all my energy to talk about Robin bad side due to the chat room policy that I fail to realize it pretty tough being a mod, and instead of bashing Robin, I should appreciated all his hard work as a admin/mod for this site. I am an open-minded person, and I was being closed minded when i wrote that. Robin, I just wish you would be less stricter, and if you didn't fix the chat room, Qui and myself would be able to log in. Everyone has their fault and it was wrong of me to except you to be perfect. I know there isn't many love for admin/mod, as people treat you as an authority figure, and your not really anyone friend. I don't take everything back except that you should not be demoted. It was a spur of the moment and I apologize for that. I fail to realize you do things behind close door that I have no clue, and all your hard work is not fully appreciated.

 

[Kylie]

Robin, I never said that this place had to be fun, but if a person is lonely do you think they will go to a place, that they find ultimately boring, because even if we are capable of helping them, they still have to wait, sometimes days, for any form of helpful reply...

I think that the site, and the community would not be a place, where people will be able to find the help they need, if they dont have a way, to talk with someone, even if that person is not an expert in that area, just to know some one Cares, can mean the world to people.

And I understand you want the chat rooms to be welcoming, and helpful... But I am beginning to think that this site needs a new idea, a way for new members to be able to talk instantly with some one, Maybe a room, that is like some sites, a public room, and a private room, in the public room, any one can talk, but is moderated, and then a private room, that is set up, in a way that only the person chatting and the mods can see the messages, and then the person chatting, can talk with just the mods.... I dont know just an idea....

I honestly think that Every one, including me, needs to take a step back, and find what the true problem is, and together come up with something that works for this community.

 

[Robin]

I'm sorry I been way too nice all my life and there will be a time that I stomp my foot down and stand my ground even if it mean hurting someone else feeling, and that time is now. All my life I been taken advantage off, and always try to be nice, only to lie to myself and other and hide my true feeling. I guess I wanted people to like me, especially since I don't have any real life friend, so I would hardly cuss and make people feel bad about themselves, and this is always the same as in real life, but now it gonna stop.

I'm sorry for that Chris. But now You're letting Your past out on Your present, including people who only want the best for You.

I'm gonna start this off with you Robin. It seem you have no problem hurting other people feeling, as well as a few new people on here who I won't say their name. You can not disrespect Hijacc like that, and using his own age against him, I pity you. Age is not the matter at hand here, it is the maturely of a person, and right now you are over yourselves Robin. you are just the typical stereotype mod that people fear, and I had my run with people who find themselves superior to other people. I had several manager who act like complete A HOLE, and I had to quit because I can't stand them, and I fear the same will happen to this site, if you don't change your way. Make no mistake, I am clueless as why you demote Hijacc but I have observe and seen how this site has change for the worst.

I always say what i'm thinking, and when someone stabs me, and even worse; EVERYONE here in the back for being a nice person, You better believe i'm not going to just sit there and take it. Isn't this EXACTLY what You just said that You were going to begin doing?

Oh, but Hijacc can disrespect me all he wants, can't he? I'm well aware of the fact that even young people can be mature, and Hijacc is not one of them, which i think i already explained to You.

What do You mean "using his own age against him" ? He's doing this to himself! I'm just telling him what realistically seems to be his problem right now. And i know him better than You for that matter!

You can say whatever You want about my attitude and self-esteem, but what i do for people here every single day is more than You have in Your entire life, am i not right? I'm not lying, am i? I'm not stupid Chris. I know that i'm a good person, and i'm not afraid to show it.

Losing members due because of an accident may very well be the case, but it is inexcusable. And Robin don't tell me EVER again that these thing just happens, because they don't just happen, and if that were true, then many forums would lose the majority of their members, which isn't the case here.

You seem to be referring to the accident with the account-pruning mod, when it was installed and had a too low setting which wasn't configurable until after the mod was activated, unfortunately. I don't give one slightest darn about what kind of people You've met before in Your life Chris. It doesn't make it allright for You to generalise me into another one of Your ******* encounters and talk about me like i actually enjoy deleting people's accounts!

Now what really piss me off is why the **** would you make someone write in their real name? Don't you know it invasion of privacy? And writing all this rule and policy and saying you could be ban right away if saying something wrong is demoralizing

Invasion of privacy? You're just being stupid now Chris. You don't have to enter the chat-room, but the ones who want to will have to do so to make people understand how serious i am with the peace and order in a live environment. Besides, i can see the exact IP address and find out tons of things about any one of You if i would need to, like to contact the local police in Your area (that's what the IP-logging function actually is meant for in forums), so in a way, i already know Your full name and even Your exact address. I find it surprising that You get angry with measures to make the experience better for everyone in the chat-room. Are You an anarchist or something?

Robin, don't take this has a backstab for being nice to me when I left a few months ago, telling me being a mod would make me feel better and I would be helping someone as well. I won't ever forget that, so what I have to say next may be hard to bare.

I don't blame You. I've read about what's been going on in Your life lately, and before, and i blame that as the reason for why You're letting Your crap out on me.

If you don't change your way Robin, I do think you need to be demoted. I don't know what happen a few months ago, but I do believe you were a lot nicer. Maybe power got you, or maybe your showing your true self now like me. Whatever the reason is, it not working, and it hurting this site because of it.

.......... i don't know what to say man. I think that's the worst thing anyone has ever told me. Good god how i regret ever giving You people a chat-room... it has made such a mess of things here. People turning against each other. It's like a damn war-zone here.

Remember Robin, this is a place for lonely people where people feel safe sharing their secret, having someone that listen, etc, and anger may hurt other people, but you may not agree that people should be angry and hurt, but it life. You treat this place like a prison, and people are not able to freely voice their opinion. Hijacc may not be an adult, but I am, and i see this site had done wrong, and I hope it stop soon.

You're right, that's exactly what this community is for, and not evil people who don't care about others. I treat this place like a prison? You obviously are another snowed in person. Everyone are free to do whatever they want in here as long as they don't hurt others. What on earth is it that is so got damn hard to understand with that? Am i the only sane person here? Jesus! IF YOU DON'T ACT LIKE ONE OF THOSE AHOLES YOU MENTIONED YOU ARE FREE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, EVEN IN THE CHAT-ROOM, SO WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU REFERRING TO THIS PLACE AS A PRISON? Bad guys are SUPPOSED to sit in prison, aren't they!?

Also for all the guest on here, I just want to say that it shouldn't take 24 hour to be a register member. People should be able to register right away, and if you read the guest forums, many people are anxious to be member.

You're another person who disappoints me Chris. I thought You were mature, sensible and caring. How can You be so blind that You don't see that if we let people get active here right after registering, this would have been an EVEN WORSE hell than if there was nobody here to take care of it! There would have been dozens of trolls and spammers who totally devastated this place in a short time! As late as yesterday we had a person registering here who made over a hundred posts in one day, most of them which were truly horrible, and that's the first person we've banned the same day as he joined in a very long time.

The more people i see who forget about peace, order and security, the more i see that You guys are soooo lucky that i demanded Bjarne to let me take care of his community.

P.S and Kylie if you were here earlier, you would know that this was the most active forum on the internet for lonely people. The chat room kill this forums tremendously, though Robin was only doing what other member requested. Though the end result was what I had fear, I'm pretty sure the chat was really active when it first started, but now it not very active most of the time. So now both the forums and the chat room is taking a huge hit, and it a lose lose situation.

I'm afraid that's nothing but dung Chris. You haven't been here long enough to see that the people who join this community leave after a few months. Have You noticed that there are over 1600 accounts in this forum? Did You know that there never have been more active at the same time as now? We've never had as many new threads and posts as we have now. About a hundred registered members sign in here every day, and that's it. In a few months, about half of them will have been replaced with 50 new ones. That's how often this place changes, including the amount of posts. What happens this month might be completely different the next. The chat-room had nothing to do with the lowered inactivity here because there have only been around 15 people in the chat-room at the same time. Where are the rest?

You can't blame the development of this community as the reason to why the activity comes in waves.

I blamed Hijaccs age for his behaviour, and i blame Your behaviour on Your mood and ignorance. You know so little, but write like You know it all.

 

[Robin]

Why are You letting out Your anger at me just because i'm currently changing a few things? If You want a peaceful place, leave Your anger somewhere else, like in the anger management board, because i've got a community to take care of! Thank You!

 

[Incognita]

a way for new members to be able to talk instantly with some one, Maybe a room, that is like some sites, a public room, and a private room, in the public room, any one can talk, but is moderated, and then a private room, that is set up, in a way that only the person chatting and the mods can see the messages, and then the person chatting, can talk with just the mods.... I dont know just an idea....

room inside of a room inside of a room and talking with some one instantly??
Do you want to pay him for all this full-time job? For the time, energy and effort invested?

just appreaciate what u have right now.

 

[Kylie]

I honestly think that Every one, including me, needs to take a step back, and find what the true problem is, and together come up with something that works for this community.

This insulting, name calling, and rudeness, is NOT it.

I think that this has got out of hand, and I think the more intelligent thing to do, would be to start working on some form of a compromise, so that people can be happy, and respectful.

I come to this site, not because I am lonely in any way, or bored... I come here to help people where I can, and if we continue to have hostility then any members that see that hostility, could leave, and if they still need help then we would not be doing what this community was established to do.

a way for new members to be able to talk instantly with some one, Maybe a room, that is like some sites, a public room, and a private room, in the public room, any one can talk, but is moderated, and then a private room, that is set up, in a way that only the person chatting and the mods can see the messages, and then the person chatting, can talk with just the mods.... I dont know just an idea....

room inside of a room inside of a room and talking with some one instantly??
Do you want to pay him for all this full-time job? For the time, energy and effort invested?

just appreaciate what u have right now.

That is not what I am asking for at all, I am merely asking for a way to compromise as to restore order, and end this ..... madness.

 

[ClosetGeek]

stop acting like idiots and everything will be fine.

From what I recall you were almost never in these chat rooms when these "events" took place so you can't really judge.
And I am dying to know, WHO are you referring to when you say people should stop acting like idiots?

:club:

 

[Incognita]

stop acting like idiots and everything will be fine.

From what I recall you were almost never in these chat rooms when these "events" took place so you can't really judge.

well, thats exactly why I was in and out of there..

Ur not an idiot, dont worry

 

[Incognita]

what the hell do u mean by this?

Im dying to know

 

[Irishdoll]

Ya know, the one single chat room was fine before. People had problems, but it was easier to handle. And, besides, if people wanna talk smutty with someone, isn't that what the private chat is for? Not everyone will take advantage of things like this, but if the mod deems it a problem, isn't that why they are in the chat room? We will all have complaints, even I have had a couple in the past. You can't please everyone all of the time, or even some of the people some of the time, but saving as many as you can is the best you can hope for and those you save will be eternally greatful.