Its gone too far Robin

[Naleena]

You're all free to create Your own chat-rooms and link to them here, but they won't be an official part of this community, ever.

I hope I don't regret this but, here goes. I think this is a good idea.
As long as people can get a link to the created chat room and are fully aware it isn't connected to LL, what's the problem? It really hasn't been an inconvienance to click on a link. It will also not be associated to this forum and those seeking help in the LL forum will not go in expecting help. See the thing here is that some of us have become friends and really enjoy interacting with each other. Our purpose for being in chat is to have fun.

I think it would be good, and in a way I think it's vital, to have a forum with the sole intention of helping others who are experiencing problems in LL. To have it with the understanding that the only reason for being there is to help or seek help. LL does need a forum for people who are in need of someone to listen.

I also think it would be a good idea (sometimes) to schedule such chat in order to give people an opportunity to come and be together for the same cause. Chats could have themes like our posts. For example, A chat on how to overcome depression. Scheduled at certain times during the week. Or a chat on relationships where people come and share. Almost like AA or NA meetings. We could call it LL meetings : ) Support group chats are great and everyone usually comes with the same goal in mind because they know only one theme will be talked about. Not to mention it's nice to know when someone will be available.

I think everyone can compromise a bit and get what they want.
This doesn't have to be a negative situation. We can look for the positives in this. Would anyone be willing to help with creating or help improve the off site chat (if needed)? Maybe Hijacc you could help mod one of them? I think there are several already? Is there anyone who is willing to donate time and preparation in helping with a chat for people who need help? I dunnoh what the goals are here but, let's look for solutions. If you can help, please say so in order to see what "people" resources have here. We can pull together. I REALLY believe that! I believe in us!

PS I have no authority here so please don't think I am trying to tell you all what to do. Thanks for reading my post.

 

[An archist]

I think I know how to describe the events transpiring here....and I'm going to do it with pretty pictures too. We're all acting like this guy:

But I think Ekstra put it best when he viewed it more like this guy:

However, both these methods, while touching on some aspects of the stupidity of this drama, are ignoring the burning philosophical question of our age "What would Jesus do?" And since Jesus liked to talk in parables he probably would have went with this:

I hope now I've managed to introduce some cheekyness into all this turmoil, whereby we all remember that it's just an internet forum and nobody's sister has been seduced by some sexy latin love machine and ran away from home. Like kylie has been trying to point out, we all need to chill for a bit.....sorta like this guy:

And I think robin's only fault here is that he's starting to think like this guy:

 

[Robin]

Sounds good to me Naleena but i've got too much to do here personally so this will have to managed by someone else. Let me know when You need something technical done here in the forum.

 

[Naleena]

This is what I can do if needed:
I can be available for two nights a week for 1-2 hours and am willing to research and have a chat dedicated to a subject such as suicide or an open chat to listen.

Things I have learned about:
Suicide
Drug abuse
Depression
Relationships
Child Abuse

 

[Blue2008]

Naleena ~ I think you have a good idea here.

Having serious group chats on specific subjects is a great idea.

We also need to have non-serious chats that we can have fun and joke around, laughter is some of the best medicine I have ever taken, and need lots more of.

And certainly a chat area for the people that need to express themselves, hopefully without hurting others.

I wasn't in the community soon enough to know what really happened to bring about the need for changes, but I think we all need a place to talk.

 

[Leef `c]

Dude, you're just a whiney little kid.

 

[Robin]

This is what I can do if needed:
I can be available for two nights a week for 1-2 hours and am willing to research and have a chat dedicated to a subject such as suicide or an open chat to listen.

Things I have learned about:
Suicide
Drug abuse
Depression
Relationships
Child Abuse

It's great to have people like You around Naleena.

If You want to create the actual chat-rooms too You can go here. The chat-rooms we used were 800px wide and 500px high. A height of 600px would probably be better with this particular chat-room software since the fonts are quite large.

When You've clicked on "Update & Get code", scroll down a bit until You see "Extra Chat Box Features". There You should cross the box for "Don't include this chat box any any lists or charts" so that this particular chat-room can't be "intruded" by other people visiting the Xat website.

When You've done that You scroll down even further to find different options in how to link to the chat-room. There is one ready for You which is specifically to use for forums.

Remember that the computer that You create the chat-room on will be the one which stores a cookie in the browser which identifies You as the owner of it. You are the only one who can edit the chat-room, by clicking the button above the "Connect"-button when viewing the chat-room. There's also where You change the background.

 

[evanescencefan91]

ya i think hijacc was being a tad too harsh, i don't really use the chat rooms so i don't really mind.

But i do miss being able to see rep points underneath the avitar, i really liked that.

i don't like us not getting along

 

[Leef `c]

Why do you guys want to see rep points? Didn't you guys already bitch at Robin for people having special attributes?

 

[Hijacc]

Wait wait wait this wasnt a bash robin topic

 

[Hijacc]

Hijacc,

You need to drop this now and let Robin do his job here; which is take care of this community. To continue this thread is a waste of time, and energy that could be far, far better spent.. We could continue this thread for pages and pages and is that what anyone really wants? I hope not.. Let's move on and try and stay positive about things.. Nothing is set in stone and presumptions of others are very dangerous notions...

You guys screwed me over and I made this because more than 12 members asked me too alot of people agree this inst right im not the bad guy yet you treat me like the bad guy and robin insults me without cause that's the way to be right robin?


BECAUSE IM JUST A KID?!?!?!

Robin I have nothing against you were are all these insults coming from?I simply stated my opinion and BANG!

You start insulting me I mean what the hell happened to you robin.

I tryed to be a good mod you told me that wasn't good enough and that means I did something wrong? It hurt robin it really did I felt like I was apart of something and you guys didn't even blink you just took that away.

And Bjarne made me a mod on the other site which take alot more time and sweat than this site so when you say im not mature or I cant think enough to be a mod thats just insane.

 

[evanescencefan91]

i like the rep points they make me happy

 

[Incognita]

This is what I can do if needed:
I can be available for two nights a week for 1-2 hours and am willing to research and have a chat dedicated to a subject such as suicide or an open chat to listen.

Things I have learned about:
Suicide
Drug abuse
Depression
Relationships
Child Abuse

thats nice

 

[8plums]

totally support you, hijacc.

 

[ClosetGeek]

what the hell do u mean by this?

Im dying to know

That's my baseball bat. If anyone annoys me, I'll smack them with it. Just kidding.

 

[Robin]

You guys screwed me over and I made this because more than 12 members asked me too alot of people agree this inst right im not the bad guy yet you treat me like the bad guy and robin insults me without cause that's the way to be right robin?

Nobody has screwed You over. You've screwed Yourself over and then the rules and morals of a forum came after You.

I'd like those twelve other members to PM me personally and let me know why You're right and the rules are wrong.

You apparently have no idea of how insulted i felt after You started this ridiculous and untrue thread. You deserve some of Your own medicine Hijacc. Hopefully that can make You see that it hurts when You treat people like You do, so You can grow up faster. I'm sure You want that.

BECAUSE IM JUST A KID?!?!?!

Your age has nothing to do with this. Your behaviour is the problem, which i simply blame on Your age.

Robin I have nothing against you were are all these insults coming from?I simply stated my opinion and BANG!

You have nothing against me? Well would You please scroll up to the beginning of this thread, read everything that You've written to me, and say that again?

And You know what i feel like? I'm just here doing the best job i can without getting anything but a few appreciations for it a couple of times per month and BANG! Everyone who don't like rules jump up on me for trying to keep them in check.

You start insulting me I mean what the hell happened to you robin.

I just told You what happened to me.

I tryed to be a good mod you told me that wasn't good enough and that means I did something wrong? It hurt robin it really did I felt like I was apart of something and you guys didn't even blink you just took that away.

Yeah, and You were a great mod for some time, but You turned horrible after a while, that's how simple this is. You were irresponsible and You know what i'm talking about.

Do You think that i'm a machine Hijacc? Do You think i can't feel anything? Don't You think i felt sorry for having to demote You, the youngest moderator we've had? You were great Hijacc, i've told You that plenty of times and everyone knows that, but something happened to You, and then the kid in You came forward.

And Bjarne made me a mod on the other site which take alot more time and sweat than this site so when you say im not mature or I cant think enough to be a mod thats just insane.

The website that Bjarne made You a mod at doesn't require much. Anyone could be a moderator there, it's just standard monitoring work and nothing more.

Of course the other website makes You sweat; You're there all the time, and almost never here.

 

[Naleena]

I don't think I can do this anymore. I'm sorry.

 

[JustLost]

I like pie...

 

[davechaos]

Hiya

I have had a lot on my plate for the last few weeks which explains why I haven't been around but I am shocked by what has been developing.

Naleena you are a star...and I am backing you all the way. I think your idea is superb. Robyn I can give a couple of hours on a couple of days a week...I work in education and can help out with the following themes;

Friendships
Confidence
Self Esteem
Difficulties with workload (my speciality)
Communicating with your family

I hope this helps.

Naleena...don't give up. There are so many people on here that have been helped through situations by yourself. You are a credit to this site and if you never return then the site will lose one of it's most valuable members.

 

[Qui]

And Bjarne made me a mod on the other site which take alot more time and sweat than this site so when you say im not mature or I cant think enough to be a mod thats just insane.

The website that Bjarne made You a mod at doesn't require much. Anyone could be a moderator there, it's just standard monitoring work and nothing more.

I've been around long enough to say with fair certainty that this site was better off when it too required only standard monitoring. I understand that you've only had the site's best interest at heart when making these changes Robin, but it does appear that what you see as the site's best interests and what the rest of us think they are are quite different.

There are, has always been, and always will be about as many minors and sensitive people as senseless freaks in this community. Loneliness and depression does that to people, it's that big of a problem. It's not always their fault that people are where they are, but just because their lives sucks it doesn't make it allright for them to bring down others simply to feel slightly better themselves. If this would have the "Nice People Community", there would probably only have to be someone to keep spammers out once in a while. But that's far from the case. Without proper staff members who care about peace and order, and who dare to dig in when it's needed, this community would have been one of the worst places on the entire internet.

If standard monitoring where all that is required here, as you have stated and to which I wholly agree, pray tell me why Hijacc is unfit as a moderator? He does standard monitoring, and standard monitoring is all that we need. I'm not sure what the problem is here, other than that you've been contradicting yourself. You have implemented a warning system, yet Hijacc was not given the bennefit of such a thing? As an admin it is of upmost importance that you of all people practice fairness. Remove the warning system, which we mannaged without for a long time, or aply it to everyone, not just the people you want to give second chances.

Are You just being emo right now or are You seriously that senseless? If You don't even understand why the chat-room was split i doubt You to even be a mentally well human being. Either You don't care about other people, probably because Your own life haven't been what You've wanted it to be lately, or You're very stupid. I think it's the first one.

Alright... ok. Here's where I'm really having issues. Robin, my suggestion for you would be to remove whatever it is that's jammed up your ass before attempting to communicate further. With this statement you have not helped your case in the slightest, in fact you have proven Hijacc's point; Robin, you have gone too far.

He (Bjarne) started it, but he apparently didn't feel like he could run it for long since he haven't been here for almost a year now, which is why he hired me to do so.

O rele? Well... I've seen him around loads of times. And I have been here just shy of a year. True, he posted more when I first came. But he lurks.

I'm a man of democracy, so i'll do whatever the majority tells me to, as long as it doesn't go against peace and order.

Thanks. Leave.

The optimal solution as i see it, when it comes to the visitors in need, is for there to always be someone truly experienced in the subject to be present, and only experienced people. To do what You're suggesting Kylie would perhaps be more fun since more people would be in the same place, but we can't let fun go before everything else, can we?

This community isn't even supposed to be fun! Before someone else came here and took care of things after Bjarne disappeared on You this place was indeed one extreme example of boredom.

This comunity is supposed to be a place where lonely people can talk to eachother when they have no one else to talk to. This is not a suicide help forum, but if you want un-fun here's a link. ALonelyLife is primarilly directed towards loneliness. Period. Not all that other stuff. Sure, that happens too. But that's not the reason we're here. We're here because we're lonely and want someone to talk to. We want to have fun. I'm sorry, but that's the real reason for this forum.