something i have just noticed

[perfanoff]

Oh boy, it's this thread again.

 

[lusker]

If a woman's taken, I'm not going to allow myself to be a party to assisting in destroying a relationship.

Prudent advice. You must guard your immortal soul against the base temptations of the unworthy flesh. Reject the adulterer's offer of no-strings sexy-times because you, sir, are a man of morals. Refuse to be a party to her struggle to escape an unhappy relationship. That way when she eventually does make the break, you will be the last person on Earth she will want. When you go sucking up to her she will spit in your face, rather than show gratitude for the push you gave her when she needed it. Yep, it's all about the high moral ground, yes indeedy. Just remember to bring a parka, because it is cold up there.

 

[Badjedidude]

Prudent advice. You must guard your immortal soul against the base temptations of the unworthy flesh. Reject the adulterer's offer of no-strings sexy-times because you, sir, are a man of morals. Refuse to be a party to her struggle to escape an unhappy relationship. That way when she eventually does make the break, you will be the last person on Earth she will want. When you go sucking up to her she will spit in your face, rather than show gratitude for the push you gave her when she needed it. Yep, it's all about the high moral ground, yes indeedy. Just remember to bring a parka, because it is cold up there.

I'm not sure why you're bringing souls into this.

And who the **** are you to question my personal morals? **** yourself.

Also, in my experience, women don't want help "escaping" unhappy relationships. What the **** sort of idiot whiteknight are you? You honestly think that by dating a married woman, you're assisting in rescuing her from some sort of unhappy situation that she desperately seeks to leave? And you call me the one with the high morals.

I don't see how it harms you personally for me to believe that it's more harmful than helpful to date or be involved with a married woman (or man). In fact, I think that most people would agree on the basis of common sense that I'm right.

Go **** yourself.

 

[Sci-Fi]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but keep it civil, no personal attacks on each other.

 

[Limlim]

If a woman's taken, I'm not going to allow myself to be a party to assisting in destroying a relationship.

Prudent advice. You must guard your immortal soul against the base temptations of the unworthy flesh. Reject the adulterer's offer of no-strings sexy-times because you, sir, are a man of morals. Refuse to be a party to her struggle to escape an unhappy relationship. That way when she eventually does make the break, you will be the last person on Earth she will want. When you go sucking up to her she will spit in your face, rather than show gratitude for the push you gave her when she needed it. Yep, it's all about the high moral ground, yes indeedy. Just remember to bring a parka, because it is cold up there.

Pretty sure if she is looking to escape an unhappy relationship, she can do it the same way the rest of us do and just break up / divorce. But I guess that would mean treating women like adults who are able to make their own decisions.

Why would we be sucking up after again?

 

[perfanoff]

This thread is just about forcing false morals down people's throats

If I'm single and your girlfriend is hitting on me, I'm sorry, trust me it's nothing personal but I don't owe you anything.

And I don't know what you mean about "the rest of us.. just break up/ divorce" HELLO, IT'S THE REAL WORLD CALLING, WAKE UP THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. So many people out there have it as a standard mode of finding a new partner before they have dumped their old one.

Sure, such a woman is not 100% desirable as wife material, but hey. Having high standards after being unsuccessful until a certain age starts to transform into a celibacy vow. I am VERY GLAD YOU have had considerable luck with relationships while keeping high standards, do you want a STANDING OVATION for it? Others are not so lucky and will take what they can get.

And just.. stop blaming the "accessories to cheating" for your girlfriend cheating on you. I have never cheated, having "moments of weakness", "drunk sex" or been seduced by a woman while I've been in a relationship. When I KNOW I will not cheat, I won't. This type of thinking, that you can seduce a committed someone and "make him a cheater" is frankly disrespectful to their person, their morals, their right to have a conscious decision.

 

[Limlim]

We aren't static creatures perfanoff, we've always been influenced by the things that happen around us. Why is it such an absurd notion that someone can be affected by the actions of another? It would seem a strange concept to me that someone couldn't be swayed one way or another to break a commitment given the right conditions. Granted it becomes more difficult for an adult to break away from their ideas of right and wrong, but it would be downright depressing to imagine it as a complete improbability.

I won't sit here and tell you how to live your life if what you're doing works for you and you're happy with it. But it is a completely different way of viewing the world than I do and while I see your point, is still a concept which seems alien to me. It's actually surprising me that you say that most people out there find a new partner before deciding to get rid of the old one, it honestly does as I pictured that as the exception rather than the rule. Or at least something "Uncommon" rather than the majority case. On a base level, if something is making you unhappy the reasonable decision seems to be to remove the source of unhappiness. Why would you care if you had found something better first? That existence without the source of grief should be better than it was with it.

So you feel nothing at all about helping someone out? (In this case this other guy you don't know) Sure you don't owe him anything and you make a valid point in that regard. But you've never done a favor or just a general good thing for someone you don't know?

I don't know, I just don't find it worth it playing a relationship game where you have to play like that. But I think we've got two completely different views to the core on this one where you're possibly not getting that same feeling as I do when you decide to throw a bone instead of going for the zero sum in all situations. At the end of the day I guess, it's not what I'd call a huge issue, but it does make it a little depressing if it turns out you're right.

 

[perfanoff]

This has been the rule with my experience, I have only that to judge with.
I've also grown up in a somewhat different cultural environment.

I think people like that are dishonest and want the security of the relationship while looking for greener pastures i.e. "I can't stay alone". I haven't had just one or two women told me that. About guys, I don't know. Most guy friends tend to disappear after they get into a relationship so there's no way to ask them lol.

I've had enough personal turbulence in my values and I still have my cynical moments flare up sometimes. I've given the best days of my life going down the "perfect" path and to say the least, the world wasn't very grateful to me about it. People tend to be small, obsessed with themselves, their needs and wants, and don't care about justice, and what is right. Or they do "care" but they go ahead anyway. There needs to be just one abuser to ruin the house of cards and there's plenty more out there. So I do wish it were possible to work that way for someone, but I don't see myself being happy by taking the highest road anymore.

 

[lusker]

Prudent advice. You must guard your immortal soul against the base temptations of the unworthy flesh. Reject the adulterer's offer of no-strings sexy-times because you, sir, are a man of morals. Refuse to be a party to her struggle to escape an unhappy relationship. That way when she eventually does make the break, you will be the last person on Earth she will want. When you go sucking up to her she will spit in your face, rather than show gratitude for the push you gave her when she needed it. Yep, it's all about the high moral ground, yes indeedy. Just remember to bring a parka, because it is cold up there.

I'm not sure why you're bringing souls into this.

And who the **** are you to question my personal morals? **** yourself.

Also, in my experience, women don't want help "escaping" unhappy relationships. What the **** sort of idiot whiteknight are you? You honestly think that by dating a married woman, you're assisting in rescuing her from some sort of unhappy situation that she desperately seeks to leave? And you call me the one with the high morals.

I don't see how it harms you personally for me to believe that it's more harmful than helpful to date or be involved with a married woman (or man). In fact, I think that most people would agree on the basis of common sense that I'm right.

Go **** yourself.

Wow. Four ***** in one post. I am SO impressed. You must be exhausted!

 

[duff]

something Ive also noticed. Women who like me are always too old for me. Usually double my age !
Sod's law !

 

[Limlim]

Take it as a sign that you've got increased maturity!

That or they are a buncha cougars...

 

[duff]

Take it as a sign that you've got increased maturity!

That or they are a buncha cougars...

or when I get to 70 I will be fighting them off !