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[NoxApex(N/A)]

but what job will suit them ? that's the tough question of life...

IDK. Something city/county/state is what I'm looking into. Preferably without having to work too much with the public.
Yet I have no college degree. And in America, everything is rigged around that in part as a formality to for socio-economics to keep both the collective of the haves and the have-nots financially enslaved through debt and impossible interest rates.
I did retail assistant management, I did wholesale distribution assistant management, I'm plenty of experienced with logistics and operating machinery (although, there's not much machining jobs in the local area), sssooo I mean, basically, I need a new field. One that isn't based around marketing and sales anymore than it is based around customer service.
Honestly, even though I'm starting to feel my age a bit at 35 I'm even half considering going back to labor ready places which usually hire recently released convicts for physical city jobs. Though I have no criminal record, I'd rather work a jackhammer or do traditional and conventional hard manual labor than I would trying to push the umpteenth corporations sales goals or trying to get the millionth Karen to calm down. Crap gets old after a while.
I remember when Data Entry used to be just Data Entry. I always wanted a job like that.
That's not even a thing anymore, because now Data Entry is Data Entry + Phone Sales.
But because I never got into that field before it became that, I would have to be trained up (wouldn't take too long though, I'm not entirely tech-illiterate).
So I mean, I guess I've really gotta sift through my options.
Because even though I don't really know what I want, I DO know what I DON'T want anymore of.

 

[SquareBin]

IDK. Something city/county/state is what I'm looking into. Preferably without having to work too much with the public.
Yet I have no college degree. And in America, everything is rigged around that in part as a formality to for socio-economics to keep both the collective of the haves and the have-nots financially enslaved through debt and impossible interest rates.
I did retail assistant management, I did wholesale distribution assistant management, I'm plenty of experienced with logistics and operating machinery (although, there's not much machining jobs in the local area), sssooo I mean, basically, I need a new field. One that isn't based around marketing and sales anymore than it is based around customer service.
Honestly, even though I'm starting to feel my age a bit at 35 I'm even half considering going back to labor ready places which usually hire recently released convicts for physical city jobs. Though I have no criminal record, I'd rather work a jackhammer or do traditional and conventional hard manual labor than I would trying to push the umpteenth corporations sales goals or trying to get the millionth Karen to calm down. Crap gets old after a while.
I remember when Data Entry used to be just Data Entry. I always wanted a job like that.
That's not even a thing anymore, because now Data Entry is Data Entry + Phone Sales.
But because I never got into that field before it became that, I would have to be trained up (wouldn't take too long though, I'm not entirely tech-illiterate).
So I mean, I guess I've really gotta sift through my options.
Because even though I don't really know what I want, I DO know what I DON'T want anymore of.

would woodworking in a small/medium sized workshop be a solution ?

 

[NoxApex(N/A)]

would woodworking in a small/medium sized workshop be a solution ?

Potentially.

 

[user 135671]

Potentially.

Come to London mate, we could be the hard rock version of Lennon and Macca

 

[TheSkaFish]

Society will keep me employed, because if they don't than I will end up being the bum on the park bench that tells your kids to drink whiskey, smoke weed, listen to Slayer, and hail Satan.
Give this man a job so he doesn't influence your teens to be delinquents.

Too late, I already told them to drink beer, smoke weed, listen to Rancid and burn the city down

 

[NoxApex(N/A)]

Come to London mate, we could be the hard rock version of Lennon and Macca

That would be awesome!

 

[TheRealCallie]

Why is it so quiet here lately?

I'm sure it's my fault.

 

[Abstamyous]

I had to make a few tough choices over the last little while. The biggest one was that I needed to be more level headed and at peace with my workplace, in order to handle the mental health issues my oldest is facing. I need a consistent schedule, consistent pay, and a lot less ********.

I'm starting a new job at the end of the month. I've decided to a week off before in order to get my house organized, book a massage and haircut, as well as just decompress. I know that I'm going to feel guilty, both because of colleagues and because of who I am. I've done a lot of work that I am proud of, and will continue to work on as a hobby during my own time. So many things I want to taste test and techniques I want to learn. Unfortunately, it's not worth being this stressed out with a minimum wage job.

The new job is a little higher pay, a lot less work, with a schedule planned a month in advance. It's exactly what I needed to find in my life right now.

I'm very sorry that this is what needs to happen. But it will be better for everyone in the end.

 

[SquareBin]

I had to make a few tough choices over the last little while. The biggest one was that I needed to be more level headed and at peace with my workplace, in order to handle the mental health issues my oldest is facing. I need a consistent schedule, consistent pay, and a lot less ********.

I'm starting a new job at the end of the month. I've decided to a week off before in order to get my house organized, book a massage and haircut, as well as just decompress. I know that I'm going to feel guilty, both because of colleagues and because of who I am. I've done a lot of work that I am proud of, and will continue to work on as a hobby during my own time. So many things I want to taste test and techniques I want to learn. Unfortunately, it's not worth being this stressed out with a minimum wage job.

The new job is a little higher pay, a lot less work, with a schedule planned a month in advance. It's exactly what I needed to find in my life right now.

I'm very sorry that this is what needs to happen. But it will be better for everyone in the end.

I'm planning on stopping woodworking school'and learn coding, because there's just roo much work and fatigue in construction. You're making the gight move, so all good

 

[okidoke]

I had to make a few tough choices over the last little while. The biggest one was that I needed to be more level headed and at peace with my workplace, in order to handle the mental health issues my oldest is facing. I need a consistent schedule, consistent pay, and a lot less ********.

I'm starting a new job at the end of the month. I've decided to a week off before in order to get my house organized, book a massage and haircut, as well as just decompress. I know that I'm going to feel guilty, both because of colleagues and because of who I am. I've done a lot of work that I am proud of, and will continue to work on as a hobby during my own time. So many things I want to taste test and techniques I want to learn. Unfortunately, it's not worth being this stressed out with a minimum wage job.

The new job is a little higher pay, a lot less work, with a schedule planned a month in advance. It's exactly what I needed to find in my life right now.

I'm very sorry that this is what needs to happen. But it will be better for everyone in the end.

Not sure why you’d feel guilty. It’s your life to lead. Do what’s best for you. Good luck!

 

[okidoke]

………there's just roo much work and fatigue in construction……….

Do you have a condition that is affected by such work? My daughter does, and I can see the affects and understand, but like me, she is resilient and determined and has a great work ethic, and I’m sorry to say that this is so lacking in recent generations in many developed countries. Too often people whine about the Indians and Chinese etc “taking away our jobs” but they are prepared to work long and hard hours to get ahead doing crappy jobs that the whiners wouldn’t even think of doing. Sorry, I’m old school and can’t stand “soft” and lazy people who want everything for the least amount of effort. I’ve had to carry too many people like that ever since I was a young guy and it’s always infuriated me.

 

[SquareBin]

Do you have a condition that is affected by such work? My daughter does, and I can see the affects and understand, but like me, she is resilient and determined and has a great work ethic, and I’m sorry to say that this is so lacking in recent generations in many developed countries. Too often people whine about the Indians and Chinese etc “taking away our jobs” but they are prepared to work long and hard hours to get ahead doing crappy jobs that the whiners wouldn’t even think of doing. Sorry, I’m old school and can’t stand “soft” and lazy people who want everything for the least amount of effort. I’ve had to carry too many people like that ever since I was a young guy and it’s always infuriated me.

I understand and actually agree that my generation is "soft" and lazy. I've helped various people in construction since 14yo (my sister with her house renovation, a good friend with his old tall house, one of my student's club room... etc)

I would say the reason I want to quit is because I was sold another idea of what woodworking was all about. it turns our that I love woodworking the old way, and it is not practiced a lot anymore in my country. the work I currently do is not rewarding. it feels empty. and if I continue on this trade, I might be paid 2000€/month, however I will always have overtime, so I'd still be paid minimum wage (per-hour wise) despite needing a high level of skill and knowledge to succeed in woodworking.

I can't see myself doing that and only that for 40 years. I'd rather do it as a hobby and passion, and to help my friends and family when they need some renovations done. over the last few weeks, all national holidays have been working days so far in my company. the entire sector is overworked

Also I just hate working for some clients. they look down on you as a simple construction worker. Family and friends are always happy if I help them. Idk

from what older people in the trade told me, it used to be a lot more fun and casual. now is just work work work. I just don't see the point

 

[okidoke]

I understand and actually agree that my generation is "soft" and lazy. I've helped various people in construction since 14yo (my sister with her house renovation, a good friend with his old tall house, one of my student's club room... etc)

I would say the reason I want to quit is because I was sold another idea of what woodworking was all about. it turns our that I love woodworking the old way, and it is not practiced a lot anymore in my country. the work I currently do is not rewarding. it feels empty. and if I continue on this trade, I might be paid 2000€/month, however I will always have overtime, so I'd still be paid minimum wage (per-hour wise) despite needing a high level of skill and knowledge to succeed in woodworking.

I can't see myself doing that and only that for 40 years. I'd rather do it as a hobby and passion, and to help my friends and family when they need some renovations done. over the last few weeks, all national holidays have been working days so far in my company. the entire sector is overworked

Also I just hate working for some clients. they look down on you as a simple construction worker. Family and friends are always happy if I help them. Idk

from what older people in the trade told me, it used to be a lot more fun and casual. now is just work work work. I just don't see the point

Fair enough. Times have changed as well I suppose. It’s a lot easier today to earn the money to afford the things you need to live, even comfortably, compared to how people used to have to struggle a lot more for the same level of comfort. If you have the choice for easier income, then go for it.

 

[NoxApex(N/A)]

"Well I'll be a monkey's uncle" confuses me.
Darwin, please clarify.

 

[TropicalStarfish]

 

[Unsigned]

I doubt I'll leave my apartment today.
Apologies in advance for any subsequent drunk posts.
I'll try to refrain...

 

[NoxApex(N/A)]

Rich People and Poor People are just two different breeds of rats trapped in the same cage. Fighting and squabbling amongst themselves, will unfortunately make them no less caged than what they already are. The trouble is that greed is irrational and illogical, and as everybody on both sides of the fence understands: No good decision is ever made in an irrational and illogical state.

Therefore:
If the Rich People fill the cage with only other Rich People, by killing off all of the Poor People, than half of the Rich People become slaves to the other half of the Rich People. And the only thing you get is a reset of the exact same position. It's still the same game, still the same cage.

If the Poor People fill the cage with only other Poor People, by killing off all of the Rich People, half of those Poor People will become Rich People and enslave the other half of the Poor People. And the only thing you get is a reset of the exact same position. It's still the same game, still the same cage.

This is the Fallacy of Human Social Constructionism.
As you can see, we're not particularly good at this as a species.

 

[MrLonely86]

Speaking of topic of rich people.
That McLaren could have been mine if I wasn't surrounded by moronic parents who don't get it.
Faq job for 11$ for hour.
Biggest bull5hit on planet, you waste 20 years on "education" to work 11$ per hour. XD Faq that.

 

[user 139760]

Rich People and Poor People are just two different breeds of rats trapped in the same cage. Fighting and squabbling amongst themselves, will unfortunately make them no less caged than what they already are. The trouble is that greed is irrational and illogical, and as everybody on both sides of the fence understands: No good decision is ever made in an irrational and illogical state.

Therefore:
If the Rich People fill the cage with only other Rich People, by killing off all of the Poor People, than half of the Rich People become slaves to the other half of the Rich People. And the only thing you get is a reset of the exact same position. It's still the same game, still the same cage.

If the Poor People fill the cage with only other Poor People, by killing off all of the Rich People, half of those Poor People will become Rich People and enslave the other half of the Poor People. And the only thing you get is a reset of the exact same position. It's still the same game, still the same cage.

This is the Fallacy of Human Social Constructionism.
As you can see, we're not particularly good at this as a species.

Dunno if you notice, but second paragraph; Capitalism.
Third paragraph; Communism.

... there's no way out lol.

 

[NoxApex(N/A)]

Dunno if you notice, but second paragraph; Capitalism.
Third paragraph; Communism.

... there's no way out lol.

I did notice. That was my point.