Rodent said:
The term safe-space has become somewhat of an abomination these days. Originally it was LGBT-related, but not anymore in a broader sense. They deal with people's feelings, going as far as protecting them...but from what? Basically from all criticism or opposing ideas, because certain people can't stand viewpoints which oppose their own or that not everyone in this world thinks the way they do in their very own heads. Which is a way to censor the rational opposition as well, because for some reason feelings are more important than reality or reason.
Yeah. When I looked up the term on Wikipedia all I found was something about spaces where LGBT people could be free from homophobia. I didn't see why that was a problem.
Paraiyar said:
The first sentence of your last paragraph kind of invalidates it because you've misunderstood what is actually being referred to with the term "Safe space." As Rodent pointed out in other words, it's basically a place where parasite SJW's think they can prevent all opposition to their opinions, not because they can fault it logically but because it offends them. Nothing about that, or the SJW movement in general is something worth comparing to unions trying to end child labour or most of the other examples that you make. That is not what this forum is at all, the purpose of this forum is indeed closer to what you describe in your bottom sentence though it isn't a place where people have the right not to have others disagree with them which is what a safe space.
What I sympathise with in your post however is the fact that these people only represent a relatively small portion of our generation but members of older generations that complain about us tend to make it out to like we're all this way. But Cavey's comment was still somewhat valid because a lot of these people have managed to get way more influence than they deserve. Anita Sarkeesian is just one example that comes to mind.
I wasn't trying to equate the SJW movement to unions. I guess I caused some confusion because I was making two points at once. One was that the older generations had all of the same faults, and the other was that anything that people have done to make life more civilized and pleasant was at one point considered an entitlement, a luxury that those in power felt that people did not deserve. Now we take some of these things for granted to the point that we don't think about them at all.
I still don't see what's so bad about the safe spaces. If a person is having a bad day, maybe they don't want to listen to the opposing point of view. Maybe they just need a space to vent without criticism which would only make them madder. For example, if a person has had a bad day at work, I don't think it would be too helpful if someone said they should thank their boss for their job. They just need to let the anger out. Again I could be misinterpreting the use of the safe spaces since I don't know much about it, but that's how it seems to me.
VanillaCreme said:
I think that bit invalidates the point. Because it's that exact attitude about it that makes someone say a generation is "entitled" in the first place. Why be pissed off at that? It's obviously said for a reason, even if it's not a very agreeable thing to say. And just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean that it can't be applied. Okay, maybe you're not entitled, but could you see, for two seconds, why someone older than you, who's gone through more in their lifetime, would say that? Seeing it through someone else's eyes can definitely open up a different view.
Because like I said, the older generations were just as irresponsible, just as pleasure-seeking and work-averse and like I said, for them to say my generation is a bunch of stupid whiners and spoiled brats when they were just as bad and they know it, especially as it relates to my generation wanting the same opportunities for betterment that they had and took for granted themselves, is a slap in the face. They said the same things, had the same attitudes. The details have changed but that's about it. So I can't see them saying that with a straight face. Either they forgot how they were themselves or chose to selectively ignore it.
Cavey said:
I never stated anything about generations, nor did I mention anything about age - I mentioned our species as a whole. If you wish to interpret my original two line post in the way that you have, then that's entirely up to you.
I genuinely wonder whether the Internet has changed us all for the worse or if we've always been such a whiny, self-obsessed, entitled species and it's just that we didn't have an outlet to voice our feelings.
Usually this topic is brought up in a generational context so maybe I jumped the gun. For me, the idea of the things you mentioned, whining, self-obsession, and entitlement being something unique to modern times has been boiling for a while. My answer then would be that we have always been that way but didn't have the outlet. It's not just the Internet.
